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2012 and my oracle cards!! OMG good news

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Old 06-25-2008, 10:56 PM
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Ok so after surfing youtube and watching a History channel show about 2012 I kept getting very uneasy.You know the the whole DOOM set attitude would make anyone uneasy.Now along with the 2012 meaning of spiritual ascension there's also a (omg I just got deja vucu looking at the video now I now remember looking at this years ago ) a rumor or waever in the scientific community that Planet X will come along at that time and destroy the world.This was the upsetting one because now they're talking science not just some possibly unreliable accounts taken from a very old book or prophesy.

So then I started watching a series of 2012 videos and got inspired to take out my oracle cards (they started talking about I ching in a video) and I asked my guides and angels to PLEASE guide me in choosing the correct cards.I asked "what will happen dec.21,2012 or in the year 2012 and what will happen after that date?"

The results are ASTONISHING! They read in order, Victory, Celebration, and New Life. Now what I got for the interpretation(my own, not from the booklet) is that Victory will reign over the current malevolence in the world and any presumed enemies will be defeated (take your pick, reptilians, demons,Illuminati or just the bad government) because of this Celebration will occur (tht's to be expected) and that New Life will commence which has been a recurring theme in the spiritual 2012 rumor(I call it rumor because I don't know what to call it).

Now the cards have little numbers on the corner so you can look up the in-book interpretation.Again for no reason I just grabbed my calculator and commenced adding them up numerology style (double digits would be reduced until a number 1-9 would appear ,except master numbers 11,22,n 33) I got the number 5. Here's an interesting read on what the number 5 represents. <<< taken from http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu5.php

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It is the number of the harmony and the balance. It is also the number of the divine grace.
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The number 5 is a characteristic of the man. First, according to the Cabal, it is the number of the perfect Man (got rid from his animal side). According to the Bible, it is the symbol of the Man-God by the five wounds of the Christ on cross (for this reason, it is also considered as the number of the grace). But it is also associated to the man in general (2 + 3) having an unstable character of duality, 2, in spite of his divinity, 3. The 5 is also found on the human body: the five fingers of the hand and feet, the five senses (touch, taste, sense of smell, hearing and the sight), the five members (two arms, two legs and the head, the bust being the center), the five bones forming the metacarpus, the metatarse and the brain-pan, etc.
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Considerated as the mediator between God and the universe, the five is regarded as a symbol of the universe.
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Symbol of the will's divine.
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Symbol of the perfection in the Mayas.
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Symbol of the incarnated conscience - 4, Matter, + 1, Spirit.
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Symbolize the force and the limits of the man in his control on the Universe.
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According to Thibaut Of Langres, the number 5 is attributed to the world for some reasons. First because the world is moved following a circular movement, just as the 5 when we multiply it by itself or by the other odd ones returns periodically. Also it is called in this sense "periodical". Five years make a lustre, from "lustrare" which means "to make the turn". On the other hand, 5 is attributed to the world due to the fact that it is composed of the first even and odd, 2 and 3. The world indeed, that is to say the whole of things, increases by the male and the female - even is female and odd male.
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In China, it is the number of the Center in addition to be considered as a male number amulet.
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Number of the life and the nature, according to Aeppli.
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Being the sum or rather the union of the first female number and the first male number, it is the symbol of creative life and erotic love according to Jung. But this one interprets also this number as that of the revolt.
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A nuptial number for the Etruscans and Romans because it is the first number resulting from the addition the first female number and the first male number. For the same reason, C. Agrippa calls it the number of the marriage.
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For H.- P. Blavatsky, "5 is the spirit of life and human love."
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Now before the 2012 videos I saw there was another speaking about DNA awakening and some mind-blowing experiments where a light of beam changes a frog embryo to a salamander(very complicated to explain but short so here's link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0dkMTzPDEU) later in vid a guy shares the idea that ppl will warp into time space reality before the cataclysm occurs and those who are not ready will like in the movie matrix recreate the world from memory and not realize anything has changed but those that are in that warped space will have acquired ascended abilities.

Now there's been a mirage that occurred in China May 6,2007 of clear clarity/detail. It lasted 4 hours,incidentally located what some call the dwelling place of gods. Some say this is the parallel universe who knows but very interesting.

All I can say that this has reaffirmed my belief that something or event is approaching at lighting speed and will change reality as we know it.It can be through the destruction of the world, ascending to a new reality, new collective conscious, or bringing the human kind together for the greater good. I hold in my heart that all will turn out of the better so no worries for me.

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That is very interesting, but I am still curious what will happen to the people who aren't indigos or crystals? Will their conciousness be altered to a higher one like ours?
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Your cards were correct, but the question remains.

Who will survive physically after 2012.

That's the main question.

Ascension is a spiritual concept yet many people tend to confuse it in a materialist way.
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That is exactly my question, and what happens to us indigos?
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well if you watched the second link a guy says that a possibility would be our bodies would warp into another reality,you could say this is the 5th dimension, before the destruction of the 4D world occurs and later on, those who are not ready for the 5D will warp into a reality at the height of our civilization.Those in this new reality will reconstruct the world from memory so they won't notice that difference.Again like the matrix.

According to this our bodies won't be destroyed but let's wait n see. You know the gov. has known about the scientific 2012.Their theory is a planet(or burned out sun) 3-4 times the mass of earth is going to pass us dec 21,2012 the mass or this burned out sun will create great disturbance creating an apocalyptic event.They have known about this killer event and have for years been preparing underground shelters for course the military/smart scientist around the world/ppl with immediate connections.

But I mean dying isn't that bad compared to all the doom that's predicted I rather be in "heaven" before the sun burns me alive or earthy quake gobble me up, or I drown, or starve because there's no food.
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Thanks for the info, the fact that we will be the ones to shape the new world is a very warming idea. No poverty and ect. to tell ya the truth I've actually had a sense of looking forward to it instead of worrying like ours ridiculous gov. You know I always thought if we look at natures political systems we could gain alot from it but ours is all out of wack and at war with itself.
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Oh about Indigos, well I'll ask but this time I'll see specifically for Indigos & Light workers + crystals etc. Hopefully the cards come up as clearly as b4.
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That is very interesting, but I am still curious what will happen to the people who aren't indigos or crystals? Will their conciousness be altered to a higher one like ours?
I got an answer fo' ya. There will be no one who isn't at least a crystal. We agreed to be incarnated to bring the others to our level and most will rise to the occasion. The ones who don't I am afraid to say will die, not because the new humans wil kill them, just because nobody has a choice in the matter. Humans were meant to ascend to the higher chakras at this point in time and if they do not ascend in time they will go through a reincarnation experience. I feel like the only people who may not evolve or ascend to the higher chakras will mainly be elderly people who may be in various stages of mental decay. This upcoming event has been well planned in the spirit realm. All those who are incarnated now are here because they have the capability to make all the realizations necessary to ascend to the higher chakras.

I am not just talking about the third eye and the crown chakras. There are at least three more that humanity will remove blockages from and raise our consciousness to. There is the soul chakra, the monad chakra and the lagos chakra. All three of these chakras are above the crown and outside the body and are shared by multiple bodies and souls. They are our spiritual key to global consciousness, planetary identity, and our connection to our collective source energy. These chakras for what ever reason have developped blocks in the past age and will be opened up. My theory is that we may be alienated from technology for a short time to get better connected with the Earth. To reestablish our relationship with our mother and then technology will be come a force of strength. Technology will work along with nature. This is my feeling so far. I firmly believe 2012 will be what we want it to be, what we make it (so to speak) It is going to happen precisly because we affect not just our immediate environment but our planets immediate environment. So we need to make sure we make it a positive experience, because it is our experience. The whole point is we will not go out of control because we are a part of the control, everything plays a part in making this whole big natural system work. That is what I feel humans will realize during the upcoming events. At least I hope. I know it will be for the better and we will all be atleast crystal by that point.
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I appreciate the explanation, it has made alot more sense than the cock and bull of other website.
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I, of course, am not the end all and be all of 2012 prophecies but I go by intuition and then look for information that fits my intuition. So I suggest, to anyone wondering what may happen in 2012, can you really feel scared about this? Do you have any other choice except to make the best of it? GO WITH YER GUTZ!! I know that deeper inside of ourselves than most people dare to go there is that core sensibility that wants to make everything better than ever and that is what will be unleashed. {{HURRAH}}
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To tell you the truth I have never felt scared of it or dieing in general I look at it as if it is just another cycle in life like becomiing a teenager. A fleeting moment of pain for an eternaty of bliss is just fine with me.
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I got an answer fo' ya. There will be no one who isn't at least a crystal. We agreed to be incarnated to bring the others to our level and most will rise to the occasion. The ones who don't I am afraid to say will die, not because the new humans wil kill them, just because nobody has a choice in the matter. Humans were meant to ascend to the higher chakras at this point in time and if they do not ascend in time they will go through a reincarnation experience. I feel like the only people who may not evolve or ascend to the higher chakras will mainly be elderly people who may be in various stages of mental decay. This upcoming event has been well planned in the spirit realm. All those who are incarnated now are here because they have the capability to make all the realizations necessary to ascend to the higher chakras.

I am not just talking about the third eye and the crown chakras. There are at least three more that humanity will remove blockages from and raise our consciousness to. There is the soul chakra, the monad chakra and the lagos chakra. All three of these chakras are above the crown and outside the body and are shared by multiple bodies and souls. They are our spiritual key to global consciousness, planetary identity, and our connection to our collective source energy. These chakras for what ever reason have developped blocks in the past age and will be opened up. My theory is that we may be alienated from technology for a short time to get better connected with the Earth. To reestablish our relationship with our mother and then technology will be come a force of strength. Technology will work along with nature. This is my feeling so far. I firmly believe 2012 will be what we want it to be, what we make it (so to speak) It is going to happen precisly because we affect not just our immediate environment but our planets immediate environment. So we need to make sure we make it a positive experience, because it is our experience. The whole point is we will not go out of control because we are a part of the control, everything plays a part in making this whole big natural system work. That is what I feel humans will realize during the upcoming events. At least I hope. I know it will be for the better and we will all be atleast crystal by that point.
That read very contradictory to me. The first paragraph you sound as if you know for a fact this is what will happen, then you say you believe?

If you do somehow know, how?

This is nothing personal, I'm just curious and slightly amused.
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Wink New Cards For Indigos/crystals/lightworkers 2012 N After

Well to be honest I really didn't see how the first cards I drew:Priorities,Shadow,and Exhaustion had to do with indigos/crystals/lightworkers +2012 and the aftermath.So I drew out another set of cards this time reading: Invention,Despair,Purpose.This is how the book says to read the cards:

1st-represents attitude or frame of mind to approach current issue/challenge
2nd-point to best way to shift energy to higher vibration
3rd-what is being overlooked and needs to become aware of to bring positive resolution.

So after reviewing that it made sense with both sets.The first one(priorities) means after the new world appears we will have to prioritize to make it run smoothly as our job as indigos/crystals/lightworkers; taking care to get all important matters done first such as maybe new government, how we treat earth/fauna,new morals etc.

Next with the card shadow Shadow(I had to read>> this one says something about not letting the darker side of ourselves gain control such as anger,belittling others,to be more tolerant) I feel this card tells us that in order to bring uplifting energy we must be tolerant of our shadow tendencies so we don't let anger rule us when we see those tendencies in others (and in general be tolerant of mistakes because I can imagine how difficult it will be managing the new world and ppl will begin to get wound up) also as a reminder not to fall into the previous shadow that the world had.

Last card says Exhaustion,this I'll just quote from the book "while it's essential that you do everything in your power to fulfill your goals, it's equally important to know when to back off and allow the universe to to work its magic on your behalf.You've done enough...." I guess as indigos we'll be trying so hard to make sure things go right once n for all that we'll need to remember that as this has been planned on behalf of the universe that we need to step down and allow ourselves to rest and not to worry that thing will be taken care of.

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Second SET!!!!!! 1) Invention 2)despair) 3) purpose

I think we're going to have to be inventive during and for the 2012 aftermath.And the book says"when you're given lemons make lemonade" courage is needed to get out of bad situations and making changes is possible with a bit of creativity.

It seems some are going to be in despair after/during 2012 but that it's mostly out of the mind's exaggeration and advices us to turn our attention to nature.To get grounded in mother earth for a while, the message"get back to nature" that in itself is very ironic because in part 2012 is about learning to get in-tune with mother earth.What a great card.My guess is that living in communities near the woods in cabins/tents and learning again to be sustainable again is one way to do it.

I see this card more into the ahead future after 2012 I quote "work is no longer a struggle and you are being guided along the way.You'll lose track of all barriers if you go with the flow and throw your heart and soul into your efforts...dedication will pay off in the long run...challenge is resist temptation to push ur-self until exhaustion " the keywords being ‼consistency,dedication etc. I see this as to go with the cosmic flow "or the oneness" again playing nicely with the previous exhaustion card that said to chill that things would take care of themselves.

So a while after 2012 things will start to slow down( ok with time new order will rise leaving less work to do) but we must remain dedicated to our cause although with moderation9not to the point of exhaustion like the other card said)and that in the end things will pay off= peaceful world.

Well I hope I've made the cards clear.I have a bit more to write as for literal translations but I know it's a drag to read so much and as there are infinite possibilities so will this post become infinitely long if I did that.

~BEST OF WISHES AND LOTS OF LOVE
wuuuuu lookin forward to the new world
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oh and something Ffor you to see how both sets of cards inter mesh

Priorities+Invention= use creativity towards coming up with your priorites.

Shadow+Despair=Don't let your shadow tendencies surface during times of despair and learn tolerance;turn to mother earth for clarity.

Exhaustion+Purpose= Do as much as you can to reach your goals but remember that you have the universe on your side to help you.Work is no longer difficult as you are being guided along the way, resist pushing yourself to exhaustion and barriers will disappear if you go with the flow and put all your efforts into your goals.Reconnect with the flow and remain dedicated to see your goals accomplished.
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