2012 A.d.

you dont agree with her
you don't believe in her

but is it just to call another evil?
what is evil?

Don't worry be happy, lol

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“The sad truth is that most evil is done by the people who never make up their minds to be good or evil

David Spangler, Buckminster Fuller and Foster Bailey (Alice's husband) and prominent 'New Agers' confirmed that religious freedom must end in the New Age, to be replaced by a world-state religion.

Sound familiar? Globalism, humanism, the doing away with national borders and identity, the right to privacy and the constitution being rapidly repealed, everything centralised. All are events that cannot be denied. Why must everyone conform to a 'world-state religion?'
What will happen if a person refuses it?

Take a look at this link. All from commited 'New Agers.' Accept the New Age religion or be eliminated.

http://www.lermanet.com/rainbow-swaztika/naD.htm

Why does it matter so much?

I mean I've noticed you waste a lot of energy spreading the word of fake people, but what does it all matter?

If they have good messages, then you take them, you don't need to support them. And if they don't, just ignore them. No?

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It MATTERS because too many people are mislead by them! I'm an indigo. It's part of what we're sent here to do. The website is called 'Indigo Society' which is why I joined in the first place!It is imperative that those of us are NOT 'lead up the garden path' by charlatans and those working for dark spirits out to thwart the coming ascension. That should be clear to anyone who considers themselves lightworkers!

Why so aggressive?

Anyways, excuse me for not being a mighty morphin light worker as knowledgeable as yourself, but can you enlighten my feeble mind by telling me how they are misleading people?

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Have you read any of the links I put down here? They will give you a good overview of what 'New Agers' believe in. Also, if you want to delve deeper into this subject matter there are many books and resources online available to you.
Spirituality and knowledge are there for those that want to develop their minds and souls. It is up to us to make the effort! The difference between 'ordinary' mortals and indigo/crystal/rainbow people is that of development and age. If you want to develop yourself you will, if you don't you won't! Indigos/Crystals are born with all 13 chakras operational giving a full range of abilities both dormant until later on in life (indigos) or fully active (crystals/rainbows). 'Ordinary' people tend only to use the basic 7 chakras in various stages of development.

There are books about how individuals are misleading people?

Edit: I clicked on your link and found nothing. I personally have never even heard of these people so idk who here you're really helping out with the fear tactics.

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That´s why it´s important to not rely on anyone but your dharma,

in buddhism this is the main comment buddha made.

Ok, so you don't want to learn anything further. I don't care if you don't! I care to share information only with those that do care. Bye.

I listen to my intuition and my spirit guides. If something 'doesn't feel right' (as with many crystals/indigos) I reject it. I know when something is 'iffy' or not. I know when to reject a teaching from a suspect source and this woman Marx Hubbard is evil.

What would you say if I get this feeling from you?

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OK. I think you are misinterpreting both Hubbard's words and the intentions of the Lighthouse Trails Publishing people whose site you provided the link to.
Barbara Marx is one of those people who believes that we are about to undergo some serious changes to the earth and our atmosphere. Science is providing us with a lot of evidence that these people are correct, too. They believe that anyone who does not prepare for these changes will die as a result of them. Anyone who doesn't believe that this is going to happen isn't going to prepare for it, right? She is not talking about killing Christians. She is only talking about how those that are prepared to adapt will have a greater chance of surviving the tough times ahead.

You're right that Indigos and Crystals are not here for the destruction of life.

But, I have to ask you to better explain something else that you said, ok?

What did you mean by this;

The agendas of New Agers and lightworkers are on opposite sides of the coin. They APPEAR to be of the light but once you dig down you see they are the opposite.

Are you saying that all New Agers and Lightworkers are evil or did I mis-understand you?

Oh, btw, that site you sent me to was an Evangelical Christian site with an agenda of its own...an agenda which I heartily disagree with. They believe and teach that all New Agers and all members of other religions and belief systems are of the devil / antichrist and will stand against the Christians in a final battle. Are you in agreement with those people, Patricia?

Here's their Mission Statement.


OUR MISSION

We are dedicated to bringing clarity and light to matters affecting our society and the church today and to preserving the integrity of the Gospel.

We pledge ourselves to uphold the all sufficiency of the atonement of Christ as the only way of salvation and that any additions or substitutions to Christ's finished work on the Cross are only corruptions of the truth.

It is our belief that the greatest honor any Christian can give to God is to uphold the shed blood of the Lamb of God as all sufficient and necessary to salvation to those who cling to it by faith and confirm it by the fruit of their works. There can be no honor to God to offer up the filthy rags of our own righteousness.

We recognize the Word of God as the sole authority and basis of all truth, and wholeheartedly use it as the guide for all of our research and each of our conclusions.



Hmmmmmmm uhhhh.


Barb

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Or his rewards are small
Who will not put it to the touch
To win, or lose, it all. "

Montrose's Toast

Strange, twas my initial first "pull" as well....

The New Age will not be seen before the pole shift,

the age we live in is inherently evil and the people are a product of that environment,

singleling out a person is like trying to describe the ocean with a fish.

(Quote Patricia, in blue)
Have you read any of the links I put down here? They will give you a good overview of what 'New Agers' believe in. Also, if you want to delve deeper into this subject matter there are many books and resources online available to you.
Spirituality and knowledge are there for those that want to develop their minds and souls. It is up to us to make the effort! The difference between 'ordinary' mortals and indigo/crystal/rainbow people is that of development and age. If you want to develop yourself you will, if you don't you won't! Indigos/Crystals are born with all 13 chakras operational giving a full range of abilities both dormant until later on in life (indigos) or fully active (crystals/rainbows). 'Ordinary' people tend only to use the basic 7 chakras in various stages of development.


Well, Patricia, I'm not an Indigo or Crystal or Rainbow or what have you. I call myself a human being and that's the way I like it.

But, I was born 53 years ago with some unusual abilities and I've worked to improve on them all of my life, sometimes with the help of teachers sometimes on my own. I'm not "ordinary" but, I'm not any more special than anyone else with any other talents, and everyone has some kind of talent. I'm not special, just different. I do not believe that Indigos are any more special than anyone else either....except on an individual basis, as in a particular Indigo may be better at some skill than a particular "ordinary" person. But, that same "ordinary" person may be better at another particular skill than the Indigo/Crystal/Rainbow. So, that makes them different but equal. See what I'm saying?


Barb

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"He either fears his fate too much
Or his rewards are small
Who will not put it to the touch
To win, or lose, it all. "

Montrose's Toast

http://www.lermanet.com/rainbow-swaztika/naD.htm


Patricia, both sites you gave us links to are Christian sites doing a little New Ager bashing. Was it just a coincidence that both of your links are from sites like that or are you keeping something from us?

Patricia, are you, yourself, an Evangelical Christian who's come here to spread your faith, i.e. prosylitize.... under the guise of being an Indigo? Honest question. Expecting an honest response.


Barb

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"He either fears his fate too much
Or his rewards are small
Who will not put it to the touch
To win, or lose, it all. "

Montrose's Toast

Funny thing about certain type of people, when you got them on something, they simply disappeeear.

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You're certainly right about "certain types of people".

But, we'll have to wait and see if she really has disappeared or not. If she doesn't come back, I'll be sad.

I was looking forward to a little back and forth with her but, it seems she didn't have any back in her to repel my forth. Oh, well.


You know? It is scary what many of these Christians are teaching each other about us. They actually believe that we want to destroy them and their faith. And, what they are doing with this is encouraging their lunatic fringe to attack us before we attack them but, of course, we never had any plans to attack them. That is effing scary, my friends. Effing scary.

It says on the second link she provided that all New Agers are agreed on the tenents laid out by Alice Bailey, Blavatsky and their ilk. Now, I ask you....how many New Agers are going to agree on anything, let alone on the racist and class-ist shit laid out by those people?

See, the Christians believe that their bible is the indisputable word of their god, and they follow their interpretations of it accordingly..... anyone deviating from it becomes a heritic and thence their enemy. Anyone not sharing this belief with them is an enemy of their god. And, since that is the way they look at it, they can't accept the fact that New Agers are all free thinkers. They must believe that we are just like them. Since they can't think for themselves without first consulting their book, then neither can we.

According to their mind set, we must all follow a book just like they do....so they went searching for what they believe is the original book or books that spawned the New Age movement i.e. The New Age Bible. They found Blavatsky's works and Alice Bailey's and Annie Besant's et al, and they put them together in their heads and called them the New Age Bible which, of course, all good little New Agers must hold in as much reverence as the Christians hold their bible in. Right? Ptooey!

These people are dangerous and we have to be vigilant concerning them. But, we should never seek them out..as that would be falling into their trap and feeding into their fantasies of us as their enemies. So, we'll continue to rest in the knowledge that we mean them no harm... all the while we're awaiting their next volley.

What was it Christ said? Something like, "They'll be crying peace, peace, when there is no peace" ? I think those "crying peace, peace " are the false Christians who purport to be peaceful people while in secret they wage war against the truly peaceful. What a bitch, huh?


Barb

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"He either fears his fate too much
Or his rewards are small
Who will not put it to the touch
To win, or lose, it all. "

Montrose's Toast

Yea, and funny thing is I personally don't have anything against people and their religion, I have a problem with the power the church holds, but not with the religion itself. If you wanna be christian, it's all good with me, but just don't try and force feed stuff down anyone's throat.

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