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2012 A.d.

This is a discussion on 2012 A.d. in the New Age forums; Originally Posted by Patricia1970 If you have any questions concerning what I posted, it would be prudent to address them ...

 
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Old 10-30-2008, 12:17 PM
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If you have any questions concerning what I posted, it would be prudent to address them to me! These links were simply reference points to be researched and nothing to do with religion! I only care that what is being said is the truth and not what religion a person is. I have no interest in religion whatsoever other than to expose the faults and deliberate 'amendments to beliefs' inherent in them.

Well, both links you provided were all about religion, actually, the Christian religion, and a very radical branch of the Christian religion, to boot. If you don't want to be misunderstood, I'd suggest you take more time to research your links yourself before you post them.

I read those links....thoroughly. I went far beyond the particular article you wanted us to read because I am a firm believer in doing research, myself. And, since I followed your links, I'm gonna ask you if you went back and read all of my posts on this thread? If not, I'll try to fill you in, here.

Both of those links are filled with radical Christian propaganda which is attempting to demonize all NEW AGERS and all other non-Christians. They are saying that we are all in league with the antichrist and that we are planning to create a one world religion by doing away with all other religions....particularly the Christian religion. They even state that they believe we are going to execute everyone who does not convert to the one world religion. And that, my friend, is BULLSHIT!

Now, by providing those links along with your previous statements like the one below, you've, perhaps unintentionally, given us the impression that you agree with the agendas presented on those links. See? You've made yourself look like them.

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If you read into her stuff more carefully she believe that it is fine for large scale loss of life to occur if the people 'refuse' their way of thinking. She ISN'T what she seems. She is yet another freemason for the ruling order on this planet. Beware of these New Agers! They aren't always what they seem.
Take a look at some of Marx Hubbard's quotes on this link.
Indigo and Crystal people are NOT here for the destruction of life. The agendas of New Agers and lightworkers are on opposite sides of the coin. They APPEAR to be of the light but once you dig down you see they are the opposite.
She's evil.



Well, I've done a lot of digging down in a lot of areas and I've discovered that there are lots of crazy and "evil" individuals in all groups of people. The New Age has more than its share of these nuts, as does Christianity and Islam. But, the fact that there are some evil people amongst them, doesn't make all New Agers, Christians, and Muslims crazy or evil.

Look, Patricia, most of the people on IS would place themselves under the heading of New Age. So, what you've done with your assertions that all New Agers are evil, has been to insult, aggravate, demonize and repel the very audience you sought to help. That's not very smart, you know? It's like shooting yourself in the foot because at the moment, everyone who has read your posts, particularly the one I quoted above, is going to ignore anything else you've got to say. In other words, you've presented yourself as their enemy without even getting to know them first, whether that was your intention or not, that's what you have done.


I also want you to know that there are loads of people who consider your belief that you are a "Starseed" to be crazy and evil. They believe you're evil because they've been given a "feeling" about it by their "spirit guides"....just like your feelings and spirit guides have told you that all New Agers are "evil". See?
Anyone can toss it right back at ya.

Now, what many call The New Age is not a religion. It is merely a modern term for Free Thinkers. New Agers do not agree with each other on hardly anything. New Agers have no holy book in common....they each learn from and revere different books...whatever speaks to them on an individual basis at a given time, is holy...to them. It doesn't have to be holy to anyone else. New Agers could never agree to forming a One World religion simply because they believe in the right of everyone to believe what they want. Unlike many Christians who believe that their way is the only way to god, New Agers believe that everyone will get there in their own good time.

Have you ever heard of the Great Commission? Christians believe that The Great Commission given to them by god is to convert everyone on the face of this earth to Christianity.....thus, they are the real ones who are seeking to create a One World Gov't and a One World Religion....their's. Since this is what they want to do they believe that everyone else wants to do the same. A very sticky wicket, that.


Again, I've got to ask you if you still believe that all New Agers are evil...or not?

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Old 11-01-2008, 04:25 PM
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Sorry OP, I realized that I did indeed take your thread off topic and I apologize. Thanks SSHenry for pointing that out. My understanding of 2012 is that it is a rebirth and not armegeddon as so many have come to believe. But really, what do I know? All I can share is my experience and the messages I receive concerning this topic. Much of what Patricia posted is what I have come to understand as well. An energy shift is occuring bringing an end to old ways and energies, swinging the pendulum in the opposite direction. All that "dark" that we experience currently will increase until it catalizes the shift. I have become aware of the "dark" family and their agenda. There is much evidence supporting their existence and their plans. I don't know how exactly things will all pan out. For me, I have decided several things... First, I will choose love over fear regardless of what occurs, I wll attempt to carry out my personal mission to the best I am able, and finally I will remind myself as often as I can that regardless of "agenda", family, race, gender, etc...that we are all one and originate from the same source.

So that is my 2 cents on the matter. Blessings to you OP in your whitness and observation in this matter.
Beings from the same ship or beings in the earth are often incarnated in the bodies of different races on the planet. I was shown the etheric cords of all different people from the same ship which I was connected to. Racism and sexism are negative states of being. All these other 'isms' we can also do without. No-one wins the race in racism. We aren't here to add to these problems.

The planet is currently wobbling (and has been for a millenia) on a 23 degree axis. This rotation gives us the seasons.
The earth has both moon cycles (when the planet passes in closest proximity to the moon), and sun cycles (when the planet passes in closest proximity to the sun). These are cycles lasting 6,000 years each. The transition into the sun cycle was the year 2,000. Any scientist will tell you that the planet is heating up and the polar caps are melting. There are also many and increasingly severe natural disasters occurring faster and faster.
Many beings are coming through because of the time/dimension shifts to pick up their children and many of us are awake. Extraterrestrial contact is more and more common and the light from the upper dimensions hitting this planet is becoming increasingly stronger. Nothing can stop it.
Those who are channelling this light are becoming increasingly happier, certain of who they know and what they are here to do and developing spiritual abilities at a rapid rate. When they are at their peak they will have psychometry, telepathy, telekinesis, levitation, healing and other wonderful gifts. When these beings have full control of their abilities all possiblilites are open. They herald a new beginning. This planet will become as the others in the solar system. It will be welcomed into the intergalactic federation of light.
During 2012 many space ships will be seen in the air. Not all of them will be positive beings. Any ship that generates an aura of fear or negativity should not be contacted. However, if a ship generates a feeling of joy and love then contact them without reservation.
2012 brings great joy to some and devastation and disaster to others. This time will be hardest on those who have no spirituality or light. They are those who will be flocking into churches to find out what is wrong and looking for guidance.These people both positive or negative at heart in this country will be afflicted by the government.
Research the operational FEMA camps dotted around the country. They are staffed fully, have been fullyb operational for years but they have no inmates. What are they waiting for? Take a look at the executive orders that are in place (researchable) in the USA if there is a 'major national code red emergency.'

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when the President declares a state of emergency, Congress cannot review the action for six months.

This looks like enslavement of the human population to me
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I think this is bullshit.... No one knows what happens in 2012,

Thats the problem.
And if you think you know your dumber than u look....

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BTW..... Stop your bickering...

You guys are acting like 6 year olds.


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There are policies concerning life from other planets affecting earth and developing worlds...


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ok so what is it? spark? spark fire? james? cj? zz23? zztop? winged defender? ac/dc? socrates? joe the plumber? or whatever other how many names you've come up with in the last year youve been around? identity crisis much man? do you know who you are yet? surely a person in a supervisory position with the western regional bullshi%%ers association of america wouldnt have all these crisis of identities you seem to portray.
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There are policies concerning life from other planets affecting earth and developing worlds...
Do you have any links to similar information
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I think this is bullshit.... No one knows what happens in 2012,

Thats the problem.
And if you think you know your dumber than u look....

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Ooh, trolls abound on this site!

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Ooh, trolls abound on this site!
Everyone who disagress with you is a troll?

I bet the planet you're from is very far and distant, and so different from earth, so different that the planet actually revolves around you.
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I like the term - the light is starting to hit us from the upper dimensions - this is occuring judging by personal experience.

Also these orders are in place - these are orders made out of fear by the authorities.

What do they fear?
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