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I am like you I like to feel the connection. But I do talk to him also.
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Old 10-06-2008, 12:57 PM
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Have you read Conversations with God- by Neale Donald Walsch
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Old 10-06-2008, 01:01 PM
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I am like you I like to feel the connection. But I do talk to him also.
I don't want to derail this thread, but this is an issue I have come across with God being referred to as Him, He, His. I use the word God but it is an omnisexual God, a perfect union of male and female, the complete circuit alpha and omega, a being and a nothingness that transcends sex and polarity all together. This is not the Christian concept of God, I suppose.
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I don't want to derail this thread, but this is an issue I have come across with God being referred to as Him, He, His. I use the word God but it is an omnisexual God, a perfect union of male and female, the complete circuit alpha and omega, a being and a nothingness that transcends sex and polarity all together. This is not the Christian concept of God, I suppose.
I'm sure light just said he for grammar purposes, I'm sure we rather refer to God in conversation as him than IT, or omnipotent source of energy, you know?

I usually say he, but I in know we think God is male or anything of that sort. It's just semantics
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I don't want to derail this thread, but this is an issue I have come across with God being referred to as Him, He, His. I use the word God but it is an omnisexual God, a perfect union of male and female, the complete circuit alpha and omega, a being and a nothingness that transcends sex and polarity all together. This is not the Christian concept of God, I suppose.
I agree completely with you. (notice I didn't use any pronoun in my original post)

I find the Christian idea of God very strange. It must be lonely to be separate from God. To them God is something separate from theirselves (at least as I've come to understand feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) I find this very confusing because to me God is a part of me and I a part of God.
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I agree completely with you. (notice I didn't use any pronoun in my original post)

I find the Christian idea of God very strange. It must be lonely to be separate from God. To them God is something separate from theirselves (at least as I've come to understand feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) I find this very confusing because to me God is a part of me and I a part of God.
That's not true of christians. Anyways, the mistake is in you two connecting it with christianity be default. It is your minds that need to be cleansed of this, because when I refer to God, in anyways, even as HE, I'm still talking about the same God you both are talking about.

Notice that no one mentioned anything about christianity, and the ones that have now began a topic and conversation about it is you two, it's pretty ironic isn't it?
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That's not true of christians. Anyways, the mistake is in you two connecting it with christianity be default. It is your minds that need to be cleansed of this, because when I refer to God, in anyways, even as HE, I'm still talking about the same God you both are talking about.

Notice that no one mentioned anything about christianity, and the ones that have now began a topic and conversation about it is you two, it's pretty ironic isn't it?
that is why I said feel free to correct me
I don't know much about Christianity I was just refering to my own experiences with self proclaimed Christians
in my Religions Studies class I'm the only person who came into the class without a strong Christan background and I often find that is easy for me to relate to the Eastern religions that consider humans a part of God and such
but everyone else struggles with this concept
also some of my friends that are Christan sometimes think I'm being egotistical when I put God on a more personal level and say that I am a part of God

I'm not saying that all Christians are like that I wouldn't know I don't know all the Christians just the ones I know seem very uncomfortable with this concept and even think I'm misguided or sinful for thinking in such a way

I don't mean to start a fight or anything and I have admitted that I do not know much about the topic
these are just my observations
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That's not true of christians. Anyways, the mistake is in you two connecting it with christianity be default. It is your minds that need to be cleansed of this, because when I refer to God, in anyways, even as HE, I'm still talking about the same God you both are talking about.

Notice that no one mentioned anything about christianity, and the ones that have now began a topic and conversation about it is you two, it's pretty ironic isn't it?
Well, I was taught the Christian concept of God in Seventh Day Adventist school. I was taught by my grandparents, I was taught by my Catholic friends, I was taught by my Protestant and Southern Baptist friends the concepts of God. They all referred to God as He, and they meant it in a real sexual connotation. This does not mean that the God is different, but rather they are approaching God in a different manner.
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well if we want to look at this correctly, and not refer to God as God, or Goddess as Goddess, or God as He, or Goddess as She,
then why are you still referring to him as God?

Refer to this energy as "The Universal Source, or The Universal Energy"

No, actually THE MULTIVERSAL OMNIPOTENT ENERGY OF ONENESS
but that is just me,
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Old 10-06-2008, 01:33 PM
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well if we want to look at this correctly, and not refer to God as God, or Goddess as Goddess, or God as He, or Goddess as She,
then why are you still referring to him as God?

Refer to this energy as "The Universal Source, or The Universal Energy"

No, actually THE MULTIVERSAL OMNIPOTENT ENERGY OF ONENESS
but that is just me,
Exactly, we all know that's what God IS, but the point I'm making is that it is pretty unnecessary to force a distinguishing in a matter of conversation.

BTW silverhaze I wasn't tryin to fight either.
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I should also note that the Tao, the Buddha-fa, Brahma, the conglomerate Greek Pantheon, etc. are also the same God. Once again described and related to in different methods. Categorizing God as He would mean to me that one is not recognizing the wholeness of God, but rather a small aspect as Zeus is to the Pantheon.
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Exactly, we all know that's what God IS, but the point I'm making is that it is pretty unnecessary to force a distinguishing in a matter of conversation.

BTW silverhaze I wasn't tryin to fight either.
ALTHOUGH, there is still femininine and masculine aspects to the Universe, which cannot be denied. but alltogether, is ONE, hmm.

Everyone should just call IT what they want. lol
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I should also note that the Tao, the Buddha-fa, Brahma, the conglomerate Greek Pantheon, etc. are also the same God. Once again described and related to in different methods. Categorizing God as He would mean to me that one is not recognizing the wholeness of God, but rather a small aspect as Zeus is to the Pantheon.
No it just means you haven't released yourself from the christian conditioning you have went through personally.

This is my point, I find it very easy to say God once, and then refer to God as Him, or he, just cause I'm not going to write "omnipotent energy source of all creation" every time. It's the connection you have that needs to be corrected, not the grammar itself, cause they are all just words, saying He isn't going to change who God is.
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No, should I?
I think you should. I know you feel it's right to do so, listen to how you feel about it. Feelings is the language of the soul.
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hmm well my entire point in starting this thread was to show that there are many different ideas of God but really they are all the same thing
different ways of viewing it but still lead to the same conclusion

I suppose that I intended for people to understand there is no need to fight over it because they are actually speaking of the same thing
Aesthetists and Christians are speaking of the same thing
one says there is no God one says God exists
neither would deny that the universe has energy and connections

*disclaimer you all know Silver sometimes has a hard time expressing thoughts in words because English is so confining for her soul and mind
so if it sounds wrong and you think she is just plain wrong or said something offensive
chances are that wasn't what she meant at all
I blame the confines of language
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I speak to God. God's a good listener. I think the reason Christians get bogged down in the way divinity was taught is due to the earthly church's history.
Nestorius: I believe Mary was mother of only the human part of Jesus.
Cyril: That is totally illogical, divisive,etc..
To make a very long and somewhat strange story short, Nestorius said that the princess of Bryzantine was like Jezebal and got executed.
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hmm well my entire point in starting this thread was to show that there are many different ideas of God but really they are all the same thing
different ways of viewing it but still lead to the same conclusion

I suppose that I intended for people to understand there is no need to fight over it because they are actually speaking of the same thing
Aesthetists and Christians are speaking of the same thing
one says there is no God one says God exists
neither would deny that the universe has energy and connections

*disclaimer you all know Silver sometimes has a hard time expressing thoughts in words because English is so confining for her soul and mind
so if it sounds wrong and you think she is just plain wrong or said something offensive
chances are that wasn't what she meant at all
I blame the confines of language
lol did you just refer to yourself in the 3rd person?
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No it just means you haven't released yourself from the christian conditioning you have went through personally.

This is my point, I find it very easy to say God once, and then refer to God as Him, or he, just cause I'm not going to write "omnipotent energy source of all creation" every time. It's the connection you have that needs to be corrected, not the grammar itself, cause they are all just words, saying He isn't going to change who God is.
Who also implies that God is a person. I was also taught to effectively communicate exactly what I mean and to what I am referring with words. Perhaps I must release this conditioning as well. As from that frame of reference, stating God as a who and a he, him, or his (meaning that God posesses something in a human context) denotes belief that God is a man, a human male. This could be taking the situation too literally, but once again, I say what I mean, and I honor knowledge by speaking of it in the context which is most aligned with my most complete understanding of it. I speak of everything in this manner, not just God.

I never allowed myself to be conditioned, only to understand what those that were teaching me believed themselves. I remember being 8 years old in a class full of students learning about their concept God, and thinking "This makes no sense at all." I was an atheist then, and for many years afterwords until I started to put the complete understanding of God together.

It is my theory that people create their own aspects of god, which are not God, but rather small aspects, avatars, or ascended masters. Overly personifying God by giving personality traits, agendas, emotions, essentially turning God into a person. Which simply does not align with my experiences of God. Once again, perhaps I am taking it too seriously in your views, but it is my experience that to work with God efficiently requires the ability to communicate and think in a manner that reflects the nature of God. In my experience, God always refers to things exactly without need for interpretation. Everyone has a different idea of what God is, saying "He owns my soul." it is necessary to interpret what is meant by "He" and "owns" and even "soul". This is like equating God to a real estate agent in the sky, which once again, to me, is not honoring the nature of God.
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If we must continue this, lets start another thread, because I do not further wish to interupt Silvers.
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lol did you just refer to yourself in the 3rd person?
why yes, yes I did
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