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Dude what do we do with all the Poo?

that word offends me

It done somthing, so thats sort of good, hehe

Great question juice!

PSYCHOACTIVE SOUL AND/OR EASILY OFFENDED PERSONS SHOULD NOT READ THIS!


We're gonna talk about bio-mass, methane productiopn, composting, recycling, manure, organic waste, poop, crap and shit...........
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You can take a sealed tank of this stuff, set it in the sun and watch the pressure build up to about 125 PSI. I have DONE this back in the 1970's, experimenting with alternative fuels....

When the pressure in your tank of crap reaches 125 PSI and stops building, you bleed off the accumulated gas.... mostly CO2. You do that about five times and then suddenly... METHANE! natural gas! I did this with a tank of chicken manure but trust me ANYTHING ORGANIC will work -- EXCEPT salty seaweed. You can filter the gas through redwood chips, steel wool and salt to COMPRESS the purified stuff into a storage tank at again - about 125 PSI. Good for powering small motors, illumination from yard lights, heating water - same stuff you do in your house if you use gas.

OK... after you have removed all the gas (takes a week or so of slow work) you are left with a slurry of sewage that has LOTS of microbes and natural nutrients in it. On Indigo Island, I would recommend trenches cut into the top surface, filled with volcanic soil, potting soil.. whatever with this slurry running UNDERNEATH the soil - plants ON TOP of the soil will root down to whatever they need for nutrients - kind of a hydroponic garden process.

USUALLY bad bacteria - coliform (hepatitis) and others will not survive the pressure process if they exist to begin with so the trick is not to come into contact with the poop at all.. However there are hundreds of thousands of municipal waste treatment operators who will tell you there is no danger. A good dip in the salty ocean or a salt-water shower will clean you up.

Shit - cow shit - pig shit- your shit - my shit - is unbelievably powerful stuff. Your body extracts nutrients yes - but also adds mucho enzymes and bacteria in the process and when the crap is allowed to decompose naturally it makes a LOT of methane at temps above 85 degrees.

The trick on Indigo Island would be to keep the salt water OUT of the process. It is a CLOSED system and salt water would stop it.

In the orient they do not have "Rest Stations" along the highway. Instead they have often magnificent temple-type structuures impeccably cleaned and well maintained that are there to lure you into the bathroom where you deposit your "gift" (offering?) of poop. Every so often the farmer who built the restroom for you, comes to clean and maintain the place - and carry away the poop to be spread on his field or rice paddy. Same rice you or others like you elsewhere in the world - will eat.


You could grow melons, tomatos, ---- almost anything AND marijuana. Remember, the political status would be the same as an independent island nation - or a ship - in International Waters.

You could do any damn thing you want to on Indigo Island.

Gee-- I feel like Pinocchio.

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Hi Freespeak

let see, i have som work at thursday, but friday i am free, regards teh team...you got it?

I like action, but i also have home base project on hands and already a variety of subprojcts running with luck and love, all goes on....

i like the idea of the island becouse means to transform and find a n environment care solution!... then, you saw my 13 questions...

i have few more:

1.what does an indigo need to get into a team, and take action? (without the excuse to say: i dont want to belng to anything..)

2. what is necessary to get first, for the board team: money from a company and permits and administrative -legal rights on the project...or motivation, in order to get a team of indigos?

4. how do inidgos will pay for their lifes if get into that prject?

5. what does need the governement in order to decide support indigos as well?

i would like to quote pseudojudo here:

UV rays, desintegrate DNA connections
crystals make structures.....

(more or less....)

And we still need to be aware of the thrid transition in to golden joyfull power that waits for all of us!

i would like to remind all indigos in IS, that to be a systhem buster is a function into a process, a process that content at least two possible transitions into crystal and beyound crystal (i call it golden), remember all of you that the transition will happend...also for you if you want it, and then a next step need to take place...so why you dont get use to that already? indigos think global...think crystal....
crystal think beyound limits, manifest, enjoy and act as a golden one!

I think ther are many possibilities and alternatives what to do with plastica, but is necessary to do something, or blow it up somehow.... the idea of the bacteria that eats plastic sounds also good....

to build with it...welll, not much difference...if we still have it on earth. did you try to do energy healing through platica? does the earh energy lines feel also god passing through plastica?

i wish we wil have ones in IS a healer that have experience with plastica.

i was working with plastic and electronics in music and healing, but was not easy to get it to work properly as natural instruments...thats why i have a big question if make sense to live over a place with such kind of energy patterns underthe land that grows up our food....

any way, we say: indigos, crystals and so on are meant to be able to process almost everything...but i dont think that mans we to become plastic neither.

freespeak, if aboard team is builded, which will be the 9 first steps to start up the project..?.you can answer in PM....

i still think is very important we work in network, the home base project and my own center (sensory life center) keep moving, and i feel all of this kind of projects have to colaborate with each other...

ideal to have a very good builed team for each possiblity( project), and learn from every experience available,, future generations will profit form our work, network, under a variety of conditions and exchange.

If you notice, each inidgos-crystal is ready with own suggestion and solution, few took action and have already concrete work done. what is up with the otehr ones? is just a question of a state of 3D conditions? liek beig at school and so on?

i still suggest one colaboration network as a support umbrella organization, the home base project i am running intent to provide this support, t every other project without an need to centralize or control, but to help improve collective resources.


I m afraid, in the same way, no many indigos on this threads will be ready to take action, no many of the ones already in action in own projets will join a colaborative network...why? becouse the old world virus is stll in very indigo systhem...instead of working as a colective unity, with a variety of projects, just everyone pulling own direction...

thats is what i see, an i will rather suggest to find a way to solve that, instead of jumping all or few again in one new project...

you see my point free speak?...we ar 4 years to 2012....

i think if organizations and companies or state offices are reading this thread, i really welcome them to understand the situation is serious, an i am very sure, if they offer enough commitment and colaboration, will appear alot of people ready to put hands on

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Daniel.. I will hilight your comments...........

let see, i have som work at thursday, but friday i am free, regards teh team...you got it?

Joke.. I know we have linguistic problems and we might miss each other's humor but that brings a chuckle, too....
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1.what does an indigo need to get into a team, and take action? (without the excuse to say: i dont want to belng to anything..)

Like Bruce Frank says.. It's like herding cats..... How do you get a person who is in pusuit of happiness ..... to fit into anything If you hav the same dream at the same time in the same place it will just happen..... or not. Like in this cas what I would LIKE to do is just announce "I AM BOARDING A CATAMARAN TO SAIL INTO THE GYRE AND BEGIN WORK ON INDIGO ISLAND. LEAVING FROM SAN DIEGO JULY 4TH. BRING FOOD". If you have a dream like that to share, those who share the dream will find each other..... or not.
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2. what is necessary to get first, for the board team: money from a company and permits and administrative -legal rights on the project...or motivation, in order to get a team of indigos?

I would think SEED MONEY from some damn fool or group of damn fools to just DO it because there is nothing else more exciting in life and more fun and more risky and more daring and more exhilirating and fun. Beyond the money to get say a catamaran or ocean-gong barge........ well shit, you'll be in international waters.. outside the shipping lanes, raking up garbage.... who needs a license for that? THE MOST IMPORTANT QUALIFICATION besides being wealthy, is that these participants be damn fools. Important for media coverage.

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4. how do inidgos will pay for their lifes if get into that prject?

OK... Linguistics and semantics again.. I am not sure I am understanding you correctly..... but if you mean INCOME $$$ well.. it would be like any other adventure. Fame and fortune IF you survive. Books, movies, lectures, interviews...... IF you survive. You pay for your life with your life. You get out of it what you put into it. Onboard with your merry band of damn fools, you share what you have. Things like investments and Health Insurance simply would not apply. I cannot give you courage but I can help you find your own. Damn, here I am an old worn-out man and I am feeling The Dream to go as well. Shit.

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5. what does need the governement in order to decide support indigos as well?

I think in the final outcome, they will need us more than we will need them. I personally, would have no desire to be catalogued into one of their structures. I have problems enough with that already. If you are conceptualizing Indigos as say a social class - one that should be subsidized or protected by a governmental structure - well, look what has happened to the black racial movement in America. It appears as if they have sold out to the legal system and governmental structures of the United States and in the process, are quickly losing the respect they worked so hard for in the 1960's. Greed. More. Affirmative Action. Unfair advantage. Embarrasing to my black friends and brothers....... and they don't seem to know why, yet.

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i would like to quote pseudojudo here:

UV rays, desintegrate DNA connections
crystals make structures.....

(more or less....)
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Qute probably so.. But then there are risks to everything and I DO tan well... Hahhaha.

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I think ther are many possibilities and alternatives what to do with plastica, but is necessary to do something, or blow it up somehow.... the idea of the bacteria that eats plastic sounds also good....

I like that too......... but it is s-l-o-w and we are dumping tons of stuff daily into the oceans. Tons.

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Perhaps projects are best defined by the dreams that got them there. We are indeed going through a time compression towards 2012 that we have YET to realize or understand. I personally believe that 2012 paradigmn is just that... a marker of the peak of the experience that we are gradually working in to. I am not anticipating huge earth changes but anything could happen. I feel at 2013 and beyond we will beginto experience a STRETCHING of time as we know it.... one that will PERMIT us to use our gifts.

AGAIN............

I m afraid, in the same way, no many indigos on this threads will be ready to take action, no many of the ones already in action in own projets will join a colaborative network...why? becouse the old world virus is stll in very indigo systhem...instead of working as a colective unity, with a variety of projects, just everyone pulling own direction...

Does that not DEFINE freedom? Is not freedom telepathic? Does not a school of fish or a flock of birds swim or move WITH ONE SPIRIT exactly the same as one another? Is not that spirit MUCH larger than the invidual bird or fish? Does organizing in the material world in material world ways somehow not fit?

Don't you feel that organizing Indigos is indeed, like herding cats?

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God! I feel so inspired!

Really!

It just blows me off!

I have been thinking about this in years when I was a little kid and saw, for the first time, people sailing on top of trees and branches. =)

Okay, so this is a big thing!

I've read most of the posts, some of them I just jumped from phrase to phrase, but I guess I'm not missing the most important things.

The design of the island/islands should they be octagonal or rounded (circle like)?

A anchor would be good, what would happen if we would get caught up in a storm like hurricane Gordon or Helena? (I live in an island, I now how it would be to live in one, he he)

I know how it is to live in a island in many ways! But this one sounds better than the one I'm standing on. =)

I'll be posting more soon.

Maybe Atlantis was a floating island.... ^^ :P

Then the people who lived in the island, installed a mechanism to make it fly to outer space and just went to another planet (or entered a black hole, because the driver went to the bathroom)

Hellz yeah!

One day i hope to be on indigo island. All i want is to be able to meditate on the beach. Also coordinate the fullmoon drum circles. What a dream what a dream ** chews on wheat **

I am glad you guys are dream-bit. Remember I am an old coot and it will be up to young dudes like you guys ( and some really delicious ladies that I am sure are reading ) to make the dream come true. It DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BIG TO START.. Heck an island circle, octagon, whatever could be gathered and floated even in garbage bags in a few weeks worth of work... Structurally...... yes, fragile.

MUCH, MUCH MORE about the weather needs to be understood but the impression I have gotten so far is that an anchor is not necessary, the island would just float in circles... sometimes North (cold) sometimes south (tropical) BUT we dunno.. Homework.

As I wa saying to Indigo Traveller off-forum.. try to imagine one huge pile of plastic with an island ON TOP of it.. Richie Sowa's Spiral Island is just that. From the water it LOOKS like a tropical islet.. Trees, vines, outhouse, quarters...... You gotta look over the edge to see the floatation.

If indeed the Pacific Gyre is as gentle as it seems, yes... thundershowers and fresh water BUT hurricaes and typhoons are possible also.

In short - the floatation needs to be strong. I had thought of a pressing/bonding process that would meld the stuff in sheets... like carpeting, so it could just be criss-crossed over itself for strength,

A SMALL experimental island to build from and learn from would seem a good idea. Then two. then two joined together, then three, etc. It might be possible in one summer with a bunch of really crazyt people and a rich guy - to do maybe 5 acres... at a height of say 15 feet above the sea.

Where can you find that many rich, crazy people?

Hollywood!!!!

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OK guys I am just playing here because I have thought about this so much. I am not up to the task. But here are the points I have gleaned...

A hexagon can be staggered to fit together with others into a semi round shape. Fill end pieces with triangles if you want perfect geometry. think geodesic dome.

Anchors are good for some control during storms or port calls.

Also...

I don't have the info with me , but there have been groups on boats going out to the gyre from Hawaii, where the problem is (at least somewhat) in the public awareness. The Government may subsidize future clean up efforts around the nature reserve they have established over the northwest islands in the Hawaiian chain. I am not the one to organize it, but who knows, with a little creative BS someone may be able to inspire a grant.

I have seen enough storms and hurricanes, and how big the pacific is just between America and Hawaii. I'll stick with dry and stable land, thank you. but good luck and more power to the dreamers.

411097 2-litter bottles (minimum) to lift an acre with an average of 4 inchs of dirt. this doesn't include any weight other then the earth

Spiral Island - just off the coast of a famous mexican resort - has already got some things to show us - besides providing inspiration.

Notice the sacks on the left in this picture......


Produce sacks. Netting for Oranges, Grapefruit, Potatos. Plastic. Strong. Almost indestructible. More importantly they could hold the Pacific Gyre trash WITHOUT having to process it! The floatation would not be as EFFICIENT mind you.. maybe 70%... but it would work AND it would help get the largest chunks of trash out of the beaks of the birds.. These net-bags would catch most anything larger than the smallest pellets of styrofoam.

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I had almost forgotten this -- from my Y2K prep days.. It is a solar water distiller!!! You pour water into the trough at this end and it gets sun-zapped into vapor and then trickles down the glass into the spigot that drips into the container in front. If I remember right, it can make almost five gallons per day. You'd have to clean out the salt every few weeks and you need to keep it directed towards the sun BUT cheaper than reverse-osmosis! A bank of these could crank out 50-100 gallons on a bigger island than what is shown here. In fact a really LARGE system could serve double-duty as a raiinwater collecion station.

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Just THAT little cutionary bit of information is important! Gracias!

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YEAH! Y2K!!! How could that have gone so terribly wrong. Darn global co-operation. I've still got a couple of disposable razors left over from that. The food lasted over a year. Might have lost ten bucks on rice that bugs eventually got into, but all in all, it was the best insurance policy I ever bought. Still got my camoflauge jacket too.

Heck, the best part of my life has been living like it went the other way. Ah, what could have been.

Hahahaha.... appreciated lovingly. When the demos finally sunk in and the techs realized "hey, these guys ain't shittin!" remediation became a matter for orderly panic. I personally had to take over the water dept. in our little town and that was almost too late. We lost about 15 refineries in the first quarter but all in all the bell-ringing worked.

What did Gary North, Me, Chuck Missler and all the hell-raisers get? LOTS of leftover popcorn! I stashed ten gallons of it and went bankrupt on other supplies.....solar panels, gasoline and such.

Blessing in disguise.. The bankruptcy got me OUT of the system!

THAT allows me and mine to wish the credit card companies a heartfelt Merry Christmas.
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Freespeak thanks Bro, I enjoyed that, hehe, I am glad you thought of such things, I ave often ponderd how such a thing could happen for some weird reason, I found your little ditty very informative, hehe. Good work Bro, I like this thread its one of my favs.

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