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Energy Vampire - How to remove

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Old 09-14-2008, 12:02 PM
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Energy Vampire - How to remove

Those of us who have dedicated our lives to serving mankind, rehabilitating baby birds, and being habitual do gooders often suffer from the occasional Energy Vampire relationship.

You know the people who suck you in with their helplessness and constant crisis. Here are some signs that you may have a Psi Vamp on your hands.

You find yourself totally wrapped up in their problems, to the point that all you talk about to other people is the vampire's problems.

You feel tired and emotionally drained after talking to them.

You begin to feel depressed before you talk to them.

Months, even years have passed and the Energy vampire has not bothered to follow your advice.

Your close friends and family have asked you to stay away from this person.

Minor Psychic Vampires can be easily helped. Keep your conversations up beat and happy, send them kind notes and maintain a positive attitude.

Perhaps you have a really stubborn Psi Vamp. These are the ones that call and immediately launch into a tirade of bitterness and injustice. A Hallmark card is not going to move this kind of psi vamp.

Sit down and state clearly in a letter, how the vamps behavior is upsetting you. This is not a time to attack or unload your frustration. Be loving and honest and ask them to be aware of how the drama is hurting the relationship. At this point is is important to compliment any effort made by the vamp to be more respectful and up beat. Take care to appreciate any positive changes you see. Over time positive reinforcement should smooth things out.

Some of you may be thinking " Wait a minute, my Energy Vampire is a soul sucking black hole of despair, all they live for is to undermine, and remove all hope." Now it is time to hold a Psychic Vampire Intervention. Never try to do this alone. Bring in the help of a wise friend, pastor, counselor or shaman to address the behavior.You are already weak and exhausted from being around the psi vamp. ( Remember, only do this if you feel led to. Otherwise skip to the next step.)

After years of free counseling and advice you feel no progress has been made. The happy emails and Disney DVD collection made no change in the foul mood. Your loving talk about boundaries and respect served only to enrage the psi vamp. At this stage of the Psychic Vampire relationship you feel completely drained. You dread even the thought of seeing this person. It is time to seriously consider creatively abandoning the relationship. It is toxic and unhealthy. You as a helper need to scrape this one off.

I repeat if you are being drained to the point of being constantly depressed by this persons actions, Save Your Self!

I know there are other spiritual techniques and meditations you can apply. By all means use this only as a last resort.

Maintain your personal boundaries. Don't worry about looking like a "bad" person just because you put your foot down and say NO. Honor you spiritual well being.
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Old 09-14-2008, 03:21 PM
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boy theres lots of those everywhere.. i can't wait until i can get better at not letting these kinds break my feeling states. i am good most of the time but theres people who drive me nuts sometimes because of their chaos.
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I grew up with one and spent most of my life contemplating the situation and still today I have yet to completely figure it out and let go of it.

People like this are disgusting. They create problem after problem just to feel like they are somebody. They are terrified people, terrified of everything. So small and caught up in their weak little delusions constantly generating negativity making life harder than it hast to be.

I can't be in the same room with these people. They make me hostile. I'll hurt people and I'll like it, too.

I sigh... deep breaths..

you touched a nerve...
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I grew up with one and spent most of my life contemplating the situation and still today I have yet to completely figure it out and let go of it.

People like this are disgusting. They create problem after problem just to feel like they are somebody. They are terrified people, terrified of everything. So small and caught up in their weak little delusions constantly generating negativity making life harder than it hast to be.

I can't be in the same room with these people. They make me hostile. I'll hurt people and I'll like it, too.

I sigh... deep breaths..

you touched a nerve...

Sorry about that. Not for being mad, but sorry if i offended anyone.

I just don't like when people hurt people to make themselves feel better. I realize these people feel intensely weak. When I see people get hurt in such a way it rips and claws at my heart. It causes me physical pain. I can deal with most pain but I can't deal with the pain of a suffocating spirit.

It causes other people to behave the same because now they feel weak too. It just keeps recreating itself. very bad sickness, very bad.

The strength and superiority we project on to others is our own. Take it back.
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Dear EveryOK,

I wasn't offended at all. In fact I think maybe this was a good place to battle a few old demons and reclaims some personal power for a few folks. Sometimes I focus so much on the forgiveness part that I forget to take myself out of the crisis. Feel free to PM me if you need a safe place to have a food ole fasioned bitch fest. Or not. It is all good.
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Dear EveryOK,

I wasn't offended at all. In fact I think maybe this was a good place to battle a few old demons and reclaims some personal power for a few folks. Sometimes I focus so much on the forgiveness part that I forget to take myself out of the crisis. Feel free to PM me if you need a safe place to have a food ole fasioned bitch fest. Or not. It is all good.
Indigo Dog, Thank you for your offer. I'm not the type to bitch or complain if it doesn't get anything solved. I voice my opinions and sometimes they're a bit aggressive, but I try not to let things fester.

I see people hurt by this sort of stuff and I'm quickly reminded at how brutish I can be. I see a world full of people with wonderful potentials and a bright future AND here are these people doing their most to keep people down.

Thank you again for your offer.
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I would like to make a formal apology to Illuminati. He pointed out that I used the term Psychic Vampire incorrectly in the above advice post.

Just to be clear. The term I use in the article such as Psi Vamp, Energy Vampire, Vamp, Psychic Vampire, all refer to an individual that compulsively needs to get an emotional high from creating drama and feed off the negative intensity. I used literary license to describe the negative person and caused some offense and confusion.

In my ignorance I made myself unclear.

In the above advice the term psi vamp is used to describe one who takes energy by force and leaves a wake of depressed, used , frustrated and drained friends.

Sorry for the confusion.
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You need a hurricane! It worked wonders on me yesterday! I highly recommend an Ohio Hurricane! LOL
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You need a hurricane! It worked wonders on me yesterday! I highly recommend an Ohio Hurricane! LOL
We're cleaning up the fallen branches from the last one thanks!
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i always thot that if you see an nergy vampire give hem the dam energy but the negativ one let hem enjoy it
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i always thot that if you see an nergy vampire give hem the dam energy but the negativ one let hem enjoy it
The choice is yours. If it becomes toxic for your life then it is time to reexamine the boundaries in your relationship.
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An empathic suggestion...

Often we engage energies that resonate strong admist soft contact.

One should master the ability to observe the flow or ocurse of ones animation prior to connect with....

Let use me for instance...

As I engage in discussion I typically use operational words not directed at a person but directed at the thought. The spaces I use in my verse are deliberate as are the dots. These create mental breaks in ones train of thought...an example

God is the truth...the force...and love

Those that believe in love must understand that it is the immovable force...

the ultimate

power...

the Divine principle

now a differrent approach.

I believe that god represents a significant form of divinity which echos what I hold to be truth, love, and force. At times it is difficult to imagine love being connected to force and truth, but ultimately I have found this to be my only adequate way of conceptualizing what is the divine principle.

just a thought


Now these example sau essentially the same. It introduces concepts linked according to a certain flow of belief.

The first example I am stating a notion. The second I am reasoning a notion.
The craft of both are very different.

It is very hard for a defensive reader to attack a notion. Many people here often decide to attack notions with clever responses or propositions that gain fanfair rather than serious intellectual discussion. On the other hand many are very sketchy in their fundalmental understanding of belief and so attempt to borrow the reasoning of the commentor as being well thought... fair..and seeming unbiased and none threatening

Thus the last word is threatening. No one can threaten you into doubt or emotional mayhem.

Be sincere with doubt and open your mind. And as we usher in a new era of IS please just send a pm or ask the communicator to rephrase their notion.

you will find those that are sincere with you will rephrase what they say and ask you for an opinion.

but if you just want to silence a person you you deem as evil and you wish to be intolerable i offer the following fool proof actions.

Ignore them..this takes disciple...very hard and eventually most people crack
then they tell others to ignore he or she..then the psivamp now has you and you are spreading mor evil than he or she could ever

or


in a no sarcastic way..just affirm that they are right and offer them accolades
remember it is the duration of the exchange that feeds them and it is a cumuliative effect...

for instance whether i like it or not most see my avatar and get cautious annoyed or frustrated...and i admit i sense it and when i wish to egg it i do but ultimately it is even hard for me to dodge this typ of energy so i retreat in ways that i know..

last but not least.. we all have different writing styles

i spent years writting poems and often when i write i look at global flow and meaning not so much grammer and punctuation (lol)

take care and good look..and remember... dont let words be the gap between you and your brothers and sisters

try not to spite him or her simple because they do not express as you do


as a friend said..

if you put a southern baptist preacher ina luthern church
and a luthern minister in a babptist church with the same sermon

the congregation will miss the meaning becasue they are too caught up in the automation of expression and not the words meant to express
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thank you

thank you illuminati your words at the end have helpt simmer the pot of frustration..........my thoughts are there but the wording doesent allways come
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Demons are hunting us all the time, and we summon them by thinking the thoughts they like, and then they eat you. Demons work based on probability, and they run programs to suck you of energy, and if they dont they are eaten by a larger entity . So be unpredictale and break your habits, for instance if you sit on the same bench at the same time of day every day, they shall wait. But if you are allways there at different times, they are confused and waste energy trying to catch you, but to no avail and thn they get tired. also, yuou should catch one, in your fingers, and drain it of its energy till its a speck then cast it away.
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It's also difficult for me to know how much to share with others. I don't want to be one of those people who consumes too much of others' energies myself--I mean accepting their help or time or advice. I wouldn't want to feed off someone's energy!
Dear Lake,

I get the impression that you are a very balanced individual. I like you and enjoy your writings. Your negative friend may need an intervention. She probably has no idea that she is " leveling " others or dragging them down to her bummed out level. People like that are uncomfortable around joy. I have every confidence in your discretion.

Thanks for sharing.
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Just don't be quick to label yourself. If you like looking through old threads, Benares wrote a ton of stuff about psychic vampires. There is tons of information about them here.
Indigo Dog is correct that most of them don't know what they are doing.
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Thanks, Indigo--I don't always feel balanced, but maybe things even out. I enjoy reading what you write as well. You may be right about the difficulty dealing with joy. I know she experiences a lot of emotional pain and doesn't like it when she feels she's losing attention. She's uncomfortable with silences.

I'll try looking up Benares' posts, Charity. Hope they're still there!

The larger question since we probably all deal with a lot of challenging behaviors from others is how to find a balance in ignoring behaviors versus confronting them. Ignoring the behaviors can mean that you get walked on, while addressing it directly can result in such anger or hostility directed at you that it's not something you want to do often (a repeat is sometimes necessary). With relatives we have the responsibility not to abandon them and to assist them.

Ideally, I love it when I can discuss an issue with someone openly, a fair exchange, and work out a misunderstanding or issue.

Hmm, writing about this brought a book to mind that someone gave me a while back called Emotional Blackmail. It's really worth reading, and I think I'll go hunt for it.
I'm co dependant in a creepy way and am working on this very issue. If I must address unwanted behaviors I just start by noticing what nice and positive behaviors exist. I ignore the sharp and negative rant but I'll mention how nice it was to get a hug when I arrived. My hope is that the negative behaviors will atrophy due to lack of attention. If this doesn't work then maybe I'll take up drinking again. Lol
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