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			<title>Former CIA agent interviewed on deathbed~ Reveals some truth about aliens</title>
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 Found this on youtube and it's interesting! 
  
Transcript of the interview~ since is kinda hard to...]]></description>
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 Found this on youtube and it's interesting!<br />
 <br />
Transcript of the interview~ since is kinda hard to understand the husky old man's voice~<br />
  ( I ) = Is the interviewer 's questions <br />
  (A) = Answers from the former CIA agent<br />
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March 5-th 2013<br />
<br />
 Yes well, as we get older and older   I am 77 right now you can't live forever you know. So if this procedure gonna have to clean the blood doesn't work,  then probably I got a few more months to make it before my kidney shuts down. So that's kinda  why I'm kinda going along with the interview  at this time.<br />
<br />
 I- :You were saying that what you've went through it's too important for people not to know about. <br />
 A: Yeah.<br />
 I - : Can we start at the beginning with your military career and just walk through what exactly your experiences were?<br />
<br />
A: Was in the drafting in the military and got into the U.S. Army. After that , I was sent to the Signal Training Center , in the eastern of the United States. <br />
 I: - What year this would be? <br />
<br />
A-: '58. I went thorough the Signal Training Course and at that time I went through the Review Teletype Course and also the Cryptographic Course. The five instructors , they were getting on a military service , so they pulled the top five students, and I was third in the class. So I got pulled as an instructor.<br />
 I- : And you were at this time, also working yet for CIA?<br />
 A-: No. <br />
 I-: Not yet ?<br />
 A-: No.<br />
 After one day, my boss came to me and he said: &quot;How would you like to make some extra money?&quot; And I said, Money is good. So he explained to me that he could put it through ..would have to get a top secret White House cue clearance for the job you know. And I thought &quot; Boy it would be a pretty exclusive thing &quot; and I said &quot; Well what is this ? &quot;<br />
And he said that I'm the director for the CIA for eastern United States. And I said : &quot;Well I didn't knew that!&quot; <br />
And he said : &quot;You weren't supposed to&quot;<br />
  After about six weeks, my security clearance came through and I got my CIA card. It was an ID card, like a credit card that you could just go to the door and sliced it  and walk right in. My name at that time, I used  was artificial name , never used my real name. I started working with him on the project he was on.  And there was Project Blue Book , which was partially a fraud. <br />
<br />
I- : So your saying some of the cases of Blue Book we're completely fictitious? <br />
 A: Yes. But the cases that we got , came from I think it was Fort Pelville Maryland ( Fort Belvoir ? ) Yeah! <br />
 And it didn't come from the Pentagon, or it didn't come from CIA headquarters . But we would get reports of a certain sighting at Mexico or Italy or something like that.<br />
And then we would have to...we had people that would follow thorough , they would go out and get interviews of people to see if there were not cases or if it was real. <br />
<br />
 I - : They would be going overseas ? <br />
 A - : I wasn't . I always stayed (...). The people we had with us, from the CIA would do that. We would get like a new report, probably a couple times a week . I was coming in to<br />
the army , fresh off the farm. So I really didn't had much knowledge of anything. But my boss, fill me in on Project Blue Book, on what they have found so far. As far as The Greys and the aliens and the Roswell incident. <br />
<br />
 I- : How did you feel, when this first got dumped on you? When you first knew about this? <br />
 A- : Well, I was just kinda overwhelmed, with all of this. And I said to him: I don't know if I can be a judge of these kinda type of things , what's real what's not I don't have much knowledge of it you know. <br />
<br />
 I-: What did he say ?<br />
A-: Well, we'll have to built the information as we go , and you'll see how these things working out.<br />
<br />
I- : And the other things, is of course you weren't able to tell anyone, to tell family or close friends?<br />
A- : I couldn't tell anybody. Fact that I had to take a vow that I wouldn't tell anybody. A lot of it for 40 years and more of it for 50 years. Which would have been 2010. ( The vow ended in 2010) <br />
<br />
 I- : You were doing all this crypto work , you were looking at images, photographs , video. It's 1958 , maybe the fall of 1958. What happened after this ? <br />
<br />
 A- : At that time, the Project Blue Book kinda went (down?) you know. I remember back in those days, they declared as a nothing.<br />
<br />
 I-: They we're telling the world , that all the UFO'S are misidentifications, hoaxes ( balloons) ...psychological issues .<br />
<br />
So my boss came to me, and he said ; We've got both a new assignment. We're going to the Capital. Gonna be a part of the Eisenhower- Bush , trying to find something about all of these aliens. That MJ12 would supposed to find out , but never sent back reports. <br />
<br />
<br />
I- : MJ 12 , the UFO control group , they were called MJ12 at that time? <br />
A-: Yes . They called us in, and went in the Oval Office. And president Eisenhower was there, Nixon , and they said we called in the people from MJ 12 , Area 51 but they told us that the Government had  no  jurisdiction over what they were doing . So being a past general, you couldn't tell him to go to hell without any good reason.<br />
 And then he said, I want you and your boss to fly out there, and I want you to give them a personal message. I want you to tell me whoever is in charge, that they have this up coming week to get in to Washington and report to me. And if they don't , I'm gonna get the first army from Colorado, and we gonna go over, we gonna take the base over. I don't care what kinda classified material they got, we're gonna rip this thing apart. <br />
 <br />
I -: Eisenhower was gonna invade , Area 51 ? <br />
 A- : Yeah , with the first army. <br />
I -: So you would go out with your superior, you  fly out ...What happened? Can you describe this whole process, what you saw ? <br />
  A- : They took us , the 13 or 15 miles South to the U.S. Force, and they had different garage store openings . And in these garage store openings they had like different saucer crafts, the very first one had the Roswell craft in. It was kinda crashed up , but apparently every alien that was in it died except for a couple. <br />
<br />
I-: So you see the Roswell craft, what were the others that you've seen ? <br />
 A- : Well the Roswell craft, was really strange cause it looked like very heavy aluminum foil. You could go next to it, and rock it . The whole thing probably  weight about 150- 300 pounds. <br />
<br />
I- : Could they tell what the power source was of this craft? <br />
 A- : Yeah. It was a like a rivers gravitational thing. In fact, later on I got the mathematical code for reversing gravity , in a 3 by 5 card. I guess there were different types of  Greys and so on. <br />
<br />
I-: How did you that evidence ?<br />
A-: Well later on we asked for ...we viewed the autopsy film. And then the colonel said &quot; What we've got in here, is we're interviewing a Grey alien. <br />
<br />
I - : Alright, right there...how did you feel at that moment?<br />
A- : Well, I thought boy , we had no idea we were gonna see the real thing . <br />
<br />
I-: You must've had a little heart racing moment. <br />
A-: My boss was able to go in and have like a partial interview with it. <br />
<br />
 I-: So how this Grey alien, looked like? Can you describe a little bit? <br />
A-: This looked a little bit oriental. <br />
<br />
I - : So, I'm just wondering if it looked almost human, what about this didn't looked human. <br />
A- : No, it didn't looked human as far as the skin tone and basically the shape of it and the seize. <br />
<br />
I-: How was it's head's seize, compared with a normal human seize for example ? <br />
A-: The brain was kinda a little bit bigger. And some of the nose was very very small, and the ears would be like holes. Mouth would be very small. <br />
<br />
I- : Now, why would they bring you in, to see an alien? What was the point?<br />
A-: To go back, and tell the President that we had one. <br />
I-: So he did not know at this point , if there was an alien at S-4? <br />
A-: No. <br />
I-: What did you do  when you were done? Or did you have other things to do ? <br />
 A-: Yes, so basically we were kinda done. Went back to Area 51 , they took us into the main building and there we saw a U2. Of course, we didn't knew it existed. And a model of a SR 71 . <br />
I- : The Black Bird.  <br />
A-: Like I mentioned earlier , it wasn't a model of the current Black Bird , the earlier version . <br />
<br />
I-: Did you go directly to Washington after this? Did you get back through regular airline? <br />
A-: We flu back to the commuter plane deck of the base. And then took the President Eisenhower's Lucky Electra, back to the Washington. <br />
I-; You were , with your supervisor ...your Superior and now you were meeting the President?<br />
A-:  Yes. <br />
I: Can you describe this?<br />
A-: Well, we met with him, in the second store, of the old USS storehouse building. And Eisenhower and Nixon  were there, also Hoover was there. So he asked us, what was going on, and we told him about the alien and the whole situation . And the Black Projects and so on. And it just was totally shocked. He appeared for the first time to be worried. <br />
I-; I think Eisenhower, well I mean he would certainly knew that flying saucers were real and knew that there were aliens so I guess I'm just wondering what would he be surprised about? <br />
A-: Surprised about the Black Programs. Eisenhower said, gotta keep this completely secret, can't talk about this. <br />
<br />
I-: Your actual name, the name you grew up with is a different name. <br />
A-: Yes. I never used it in the CIA at all. <br />
I-: Now about today, your going on a public record and this is still sensitive information, even though earlier, you talked about the oath security set that maybe be expired after a certain period of time. <br />
A-: Yes. After 50 years.<br />
I: Are you still concerned ? <br />
A-: (.....) Her phone was tapped and they got my phone number through the telephone company, they were able to find me. <br />
I-: When they found you, what happened? <br />
A-: When I was going to the grocery store, two guys in black suits come out of a black Lincoln town car and came over to see me, and they told me that I better not publish anything or talk to Linda about anymore things. So at that time I did  , I  stopped. <br />
I-: That was enough to intimidate you.<br />
A-: Yes. I rather remain anonymous, never showed my face. on anything. <br />
I-: Really thank you for this. <br />
A-: Yes. This was I guess a good idea , because I feel much more better having talked about it. I guess burden lift off my shoulders. <br />
I-: Really...<br />
A-: Because I had an awful lot of secrets that I have kept over the years.</div>

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