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Old 08-15-2008, 10:44 AM
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Question Flower People of the 60's - update?

What became of the Flower People of the 60's? They believed in LOVE, psychadelic drugs and "Flower Power".

Are any survivors of that time around here?

How has it worked out for you down through the years?

How has your thinking changed and developed as you took on more responsibilities re family, education feeding and clothing of children etc.?


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Well, most of them "sold out" and went into Government. Nancy "Posie" Pelosi is now Speaker of the House. John "flower in the gun barrell" Kerry ran an unsuccessful bid for President.

George "Draft Dodge" Bush however did make it into office. Basically, the "flower children" of the sixties now run the government.

hmm...how have the values changed? Not much at all.

The last wave "flower power" boomers have done such a great job!

Their own parents will be eating catfood in retirement.

p.s. I'm being cheeky, but that's not too far off from teh' truth.
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Oh my god, seriously?

Nah, I say the hippie consciousness is being recycled through the collective consciousness as we speak. I mean look around. We still have tree hugging pagans who believe in "free love" and what not. I mean look at the wave of polyamoury and how much people are petitioning to save the environment from ozone evilness and oil despots running office, the "Establishment" or whatever.

There will always be those who utilize the energy of the "Hippie" in every generation, its just the terms that change, the words. The difference is in the words....

Anyway, that's my take on it.
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Well there is some truth to it.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalra...-power-po.html

"Flower Power Pork" for Woodstock Museum Fails in the Senate
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ABC News' Z. Byron Wolf Reports: New York Democrats Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer had slipped $1 million into the Labor-HHS appropriations bill for a performing arts center at the museum on the site of the 1969 Woodstock festival. But the earmark failed.

Bob Novak brought attention to the earmark in his column today, describing it as "Flower Power Pork".

Republican Senators Tom Coburn of Oklahoma and Jon Kyl of Arizona offered an amendment to the bill that would strip the money. Democrats tried to table the amendment, but 52 Senators, including 5 Democrats, voted to keep the amendment on the floor. It was then passed by voice vote.

Coburn voiced his outrage. "I'm part of the hippie generation," he said. "...the question is, should this be a priority for this body over the priority of women and children, of maternal child health, which isn't funded adequately in this country?

Schumer defended the museum saying it was much more than a tribute to Woodstock, it was a tribute to the World War II period.
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Thanks Slippy and LatentAbstract. Interesting responses. As they say "what goes around comes around".

Would be interesting also to hear from somebody form that era who maybe is a member of IS. How has their thinking changed, developed over that period of time. What is their perspective now?

Also another interesting angle might be some feed-back from next generations - sons, daughters or even grand-children of those who lived through that time. What were they handed down by their parents, grand-parents from that time?

I am thinking of two famous film-stars who were brought up by hippie parents in that era. One died very young of a drug-overdose in the door-way of a club. The other was found guilty of shop-lifting and has an addiction to pain-killing drugs. I think you know who I mean. Just don't want to mention the names. Both extremely talented and interesting people. Brought up with that "flower power" legacy.


Some more feedback would be nice.
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The era of the flower children was a considerable time before I was born, in the the early eighties. However, I have always had this strange affinity for that time period. The whole Peace and love idea has somehow always made sense to me and seemed like that way the world should have always been. Sorry, I know that's a little off topic, but I wanted to comment anyway.
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The era of the flower children was a considerable time before I was born, in the the early eighties. However, I have always had this strange affinity for that time period. The whole Peace and love idea has somehow always made sense to me and seemed like that way the world should have always been. Sorry, I know that's a little off topic, but I wanted to comment anyway.
Hear Hear. I was born in 1990, and am only 18, but that affinity you speak of..I dig

The culture, and learning about it, was a defining thing in my earlier teen years, and has stuck with me since. Many people call me "hippy" these days. Heheh.

But the mentality...I'm down with it. Take the 60's ideals and beliefs, new things learned throughout the years, and spiritual growth, and roll it into one, and you've got what I have going on.
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Born smack dab in the 60's to hippy parents! Dad was a poet and Mom wore dashikis and rode a bike everywhere. Dad went on to become an English Professor and Mom had a cooking show on local TV. Both are retired and live with new partners in fabulous homes in Hawaii. They both have selective amnesia about their wild days, bless them. I remeber the running naked on the beach and the hash parties. Tee, hee. Both are pillar members in thier own churches. One a Charismatic Christian and the other Catholic.
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Mystic Blaze and LunarKismet: thanks for sharing your perspectives re that era. You are both young people and it's interesting how you feel such an affinity to that time.
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[quote=Indigo Dog;167647]Born smack dab in the 60's to hippy parents! Dad was a poet and Mom wore dashikis and rode a bike everywhere. Dad went on to become an English Professor and Mom had a cooking show on local TV. Both are retired and live with new partners in fabulous homes in Hawaii. They both have selective amnesia about their wild days, bless them. I remeber the running naked on the beach and the hash parties. Tee, hee. Both are pillar members in thier own churches. One a Charismatic Christian and the other Catholic.[/QUOTE]

ROTFL. Thanks so much for sharing that IndigoDog.

So funny really the way people change. And what's also so funny is the fact that there are so many young people on here, not to mention Oldies, who will change a lot over the next few years, whether they realise it or not.
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It peaked in 65-66 when I was around 8. That was the time lots of parents woke up to the reality that it might be their son who could die in a far away land for nothing. The so called "summer of love" in '67 was a comercialization of what was already out of style.
It was just another fashion craze to most. My dad grew his hair etc. . alas the drugs wore off and by the time Woodstock rolled around it was just like today. Burningman.com anyone?

Some of us saw "the conventionals" as kinda cute, temporarily dropping their costumes. But, as already stated, the vast majority dropped right back in where they left off.

Hence my humble opinion and observation that it was mostly a phase.

It's been a long time comin'
It's goin' to be a Long Time Gone.
And it appears to be a long,
appears to be a long,
appears to be a long
time, yes, a long, long, long ,long time before the dawn.

Turn, turn any corner.
Hear, you must hear what the people say.
You know there's something that's goin' on around here,
the surely, surely, surely won't stand the light of day.
And it appears to be a long,
appears to be a long,
appears to be a long
time, yes, a long, long, long ,long time before the dawn.

Speak out, you got to speak out against the madness,
you got to speak your mind,
if you dare.
But don't no don't now try to get yourself elected
If you do you had better cut your hair.
`Cause it appears to be a long,
appears to be a long,
appears to be a long,
Time, such a long long long long time before the dawn.

It's been a long time comin'
It's goin' to be a long time gone.
But you know,
The darkest hour is always
Always just before the dawn.
And it appears to be a long, appears to be a long,
appears to be a long
Time before the dawn.

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Wink Oh the 60s, I was in High School

Ah the 60s, my time. When I think of those times, nothing moves me more then Scott McKenzie's - San Francisco. The Youtube is black and white, but the audio is much better then others and the pics are of the times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB2tYYYlwMc

I felt the movement, but never got into it. Instead, when I was 18 in high school, I got my draft notice to report for active duty, when I was the latter part of my junior year or at the beginning of my senior year. Not wanting to be military fodder, I enlisted in the Air Force temporary reserve, and entered the Air Force after the summer, after graduation was over. After the Air Force screwed me up, I have been just barely surviving financially, physically, mentally and emotionally ever since.

The feelings and the musics moves me so much inside from this time.

After the my tour in the military Country Joe and Fish hit home.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0jxH...eature=related

Of course now my music of choice is Celtic
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Born smack dab in the 60's to hippy parents! Dad was a poet and Mom wore dashikis and rode a bike everywhere. Dad went on to become an English Professor and Mom had a cooking show on local TV. Both are retired and live with new partners in fabulous homes in Hawaii. They both have selective amnesia about their wild days, bless them. I remeber the running naked on the beach and the hash parties. Tee, hee. Both are pillar members in thier own churches. One a Charismatic Christian and the other Catholic.
Another smackdabber - born to more depression era raised older parents. Felt the spirit of the times around me and expected it to last forever (or wanted to). The times were my parents...
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yes i liked dharma &greg, too.

and i do think there has been a generational shift. I just had a talk with one o my daughter's teachers who is of a much past generation. I was explaining why I thought a gifted 9 year old should still be playing/exploring without an achievement goal as part of their overall development.
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Ah the 60s, my time. When I think of those times, nothing moves me more then Scott McKenzie's - San Francisco. The Youtube is black and white, but the audio is much better then others and the pics are of the times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB2tYYYlwMc
Thank you QuietKnight for posting that video. If you're going to San Fransisco has always been a song that for for reason has given me a strange feeling of familiarity. Oddly enoug, I was not even though of yet when that song came out. I think my mother must have been a little girl still. It is so cool to see the video and hear the song combined with the images of that time.
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Question I don't think we really knew the real Hippies if they could be called that

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Thank you QuietKnight for posting that video. If you're going to San Fransisco has always been a song that for for reason has given me a strange feeling of familiarity. Oddly enough, I was not even though of yet when that song came out. I think my mother must have been a little girl still. It is so cool to see the video and hear the song combined with the images of that time.

, Thank you for your nice words. I think the songs of the times, had more to them, and deeper meanings then most realized and they speak to more then just those of that time and era. I believe that most or many songs are created in spirit first then put on paper. Music often speaks to the soul for those who have a kinship to its deeper meanings.

From what I gathered living at the time, the real ones who started it, left society and were not really part of what happened in San Francisco once it really got going. Most of what see in the news were wannabes, who loved the free movement, with no law and responsibility and of course free sex.

The original ones, were more moral and self thinkers, I guess early Indigo or what ever. The ones who followed and fired up the movement were wannabes and free riders. I remember a few articles I read about the starters and I guess a lot of what I feel comes from what I sensed about it all.

The first ones were so spiritual minded, they did not fit in, in society, so they left, where they went????
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Have these social reformers ended up in the school books?

I studied American History in school in the late 70's and early 80's and my textbooks ended with McCarthism (an American anti-Communist movement in the 1950s). Everything I know about the Vietnam war and the Hippie era is all felt from the people around me. Too young to be part of it and too old to read about it in school.
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My parents were flower power people from the 60's and so were my husbands parents. From what I can see, many of them went on to have families, jobs and look like everyday people now, some of them havent, but alot of them have.
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