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What makes a criminal? This is a discussion on What makes a criminal? in the Criticism & Scientific Investigation forums; I would like to know your views on what you think, or personally know about what makes a person become ...

04-16-2008, 07:38 AM
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What makes a criminal?
I would like to know your views on what you think, or personally know about what makes a person become a criminal?
I am going to study psychology in September and one of their subjects is criminology.
I think it would be better coming from people who are or were criminals, or people who have lived with them etc. I have a family which has a lot of criminals or ex criminals in them, so I have a fair idea what their problem is, but everyone is individual with their reasons. Some people who are criminals that Ive known does it for the pure and simple fact that they enjoy it, some because they are anarchists, and some downright bloody evil, or a few Ive known had no academic ability other than art, and so went into crime as it was the only way they could earn a proper living and become reasonably respected by locals.
Some scientists are trying to prove that criminal activity is to do with genetic heritage, but I very much doubt it, because my genetic heritage on my mothers side okay, are gypsies and quite literally thieves and labourers, but my fathers side of the family are aristocracy, militants and royals, throughout the ages, and my fathers family have been known to have some people involved with crimes, though not in the past 4 generations.
Whatever you think the reason is; I would like to hear it.
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04-16-2008, 07:51 AM
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A criminal is someone who has commited a crime, and a crime is an action that is prohibited by law or a failure to act according to the law and the law is a rule of conduct or procedure recognized by a community as binding or enforceable by authority.
So, being as that this is an indigo society - and indigos are notorious for not adhering to 'rules of conduct' is there any indigo who could not be considered to be a criminal?
Just a thought
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04-16-2008, 08:06 AM
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ok, let's try another question regarding this...
What do you, as an individual class as criminal activity, or should be classed as criminal activity?
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04-16-2008, 08:08 AM
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Hmm, I don't really follow any laws, as I think they are prohibiting and silly. (If everyone would think for themselves and have somekind of moral I think that laws would be unnecessary alltogether). So I suppose I'm somekind of criminal
But if checking into various areas like violence and such crimes then I would almost say that personal emotional disturbance is the key behind those actions, and if the whole society structure would be more loving and kind (so that ppl could pour out their childhood traumas and so forth), it would greatly reduce this area of crimes alltogether.
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04-16-2008, 09:46 AM
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The political govts. in this world are the worst criminals, because they manipulate the judicial system to incriminate those who oppose their corruption and manipulation.
Corruption is the nature of political authority.
Of course they wonīt teach you that in college will they?
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04-16-2008, 09:49 AM
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Strange you ask this. I actually would love to take criminal psychology. I've read a lot of profiles on serial killers to understand how the mind can get to that point. There are a list of characteristics that serial killers share. Now serial killers and murderers are two different creatures.
1. serial killer does it over and over often out of some kind of sexual gratification
2. murderer usually a crime of passion happens only once (whether or not more then one victim)
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04-16-2008, 09:52 AM
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Politicians are serial killers.
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04-16-2008, 09:55 AM
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Serial killers have often suffered abuse (physical/sexual)
2. Strange relationships with the mother (think Bates from Psycho)
3. Mutilated/murdered small animals in the beginning
4. Sexual gratification, many don't have actual sexual intercourse (act of stabbing is like penetration)
I actually find how the mind can get so twisted fascinating and what it takes to get to that breaking point.
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04-16-2008, 10:00 AM
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actually itīs not so complicated,
itīs called power and greed.
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04-16-2008, 10:02 AM
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No it is that complicated. Many of them don't understand what they are doing in those limited terms. Their mind is so twisted that often times they think what they are doing is right or ordained in some way. It can't be considered power and greed if they truly believe what they are doing, God himself has spoken to them and told them to do it. Some, may have power and greed as the final straw.
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04-16-2008, 10:05 AM
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with sufficient amounts of sensual lust.
People from the so called best schools become the worst serial killers.
Look at any politician in history and the wars they have created.
Winston Churchill gave exact orders for the british air defense to bomb the suburbs of germany not the factories,
why?
because thatīs where the opposition to hitlerīs rule mostly came from.
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I'm not saying they are not educated, but something has happened to the mind to change it into such a twisted mess from what society considers acceptable behaviour.
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04-16-2008, 10:08 AM
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As long as you focus on the materialistic aspect of existence you will only see the illusory aspect of this world.
The ego is the antichrist.
Itīs plain and simple.
It is the basis of all psychological delusion and dementia, everything else is a consequence of that.
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04-16-2008, 10:10 AM
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Society is asleep, society only knows one thing.
Itīs sensual gratification.
at the expense of everyone and everything else.
Society is addicted to materialism and the earth has run out of material.
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I'm going to base my opinion on the extensive research I've done into serial killers. But I value your opinion in the sense of "the bigger picture" aspect, I will research that a little more as well.
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04-16-2008, 10:13 AM
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Serial killers exist because society is predatory.
They are products of their environment.
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04-16-2008, 10:14 AM
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ugh it still didnt get through my last post!
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Ok, you talked about the ego being the antichrist, I take it that you believe in the christ conciousness as being a soul reliant on the powers of christ still?
Yet many people believe that war is murder a crime... yet many wars are caused by religions, there is not one religion on earth who is not guilty for causing a war to stand by their beliefs... is this not against the christ you stand for? isn't that an act of antichristianity? It is better to ignore anothers beliefs and carry on blindly in your own, that to fight and argue and criticise each other about it, and using the belief system as a defence to get your self our of arguments or situations you do not fully understand!
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As long as you focus on the materialistic aspect of existence you will only see the illusory aspect of this world.
The ego is the antichrist.
Itīs plain and simple.
It is the basis of all psychological delusion and dementia, everything else is a consequence of that.
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Live not in fear of just words, but live in the fear of what might happen if those words are never spoken!
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If someone makes you feel uncomfortable with your self and what you know to be true, then there is something wrong with that person and not you! STEER CLEAR!
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04-16-2008, 10:19 AM
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Wars are not caused by religion, wars are caused by men who use religion to manipulate the masses.
because they know that humans can be manipulated through superstition and the things that can not be proven materially.
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04-16-2008, 10:20 AM
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Which makes me think that... therefore, any war whether religious or political or otherwise, is a crime.
And those who agree with wars and vote for war, are accessories to the crime of murder to those victims of war. Whether or not, the person who agrees with war is directly involved or not.
Some of us has believed that some wars were neccessary, and they are not totally innocent of agreeing to downright murder - even I have in the past.
But I do believe that this is a crime.
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If someone makes you feel uncomfortable with your self and what you know to be true, then there is something wrong with that person and not you! STEER CLEAR!
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