Indigos, crystals, rainbows and aliens,
starseeds and walk-ins and wonders abound
shop for your favorite feel-good feeling
Will you know when the right mix has finally been found?
~sshenry 2008

The argument for - and against - the various New Age beliefs is as old as the movememt itself, and a quick search of the internet will provide an absolute avalanche of inforamtion, dis-information, self-help books, CD's full of "life-changing discoveries", offers for channelings, tarrot readings, astrology readings. Read far enough and you'll find references to starseeds, walk-ins, rainbows, crystals, octarines, indigos...well, you get the idea.

So how does a rational person decide what is legitimate, and what can be discarded? How does one determine where they belong - what label applies to you?

And I say -
WHAT DOES IT MATTER?

Everyone on this planet has had moments of thinking that they might not belong here - that they might have been born into the wrong family. But I don't think that this is because the person is a changeling or an alien in disguise, I think it is because the person has finally become aware, they have woken up, and in a world full of sleeping people, being awake can be a very lonely and isolating thing.

It is my humble opinion that most New Age beliefs are just another set of illusions to wrap our senses up in in order to keep us from waking up to the true nature of reality - just one more layer of the Matrix if you will, like nationalities or sexes or cultures...

Because at the heart of it, if the soul/spirit is real, then it would by definition trancend any physical or genetic differences. The body would be a vehicle, a vessel for the soul. So it wouldn't matter if the "soul" were from earth, mars or the second galaxy to the right of eternity...all souls or spirits would be part of the greater source (call it whatever you will....god, shakinah, tao, whatever).

To be able to see beyond the physical differences....to be able to see the ghost in the machine, is to trancend the need for "us" and "them" and work together instead for the awakening of any and all who can be persuaded to see through the illusion.

Just a thought

Note: Thank-you to MiamiSound for the original inspiration from his 'new age' thread, BMoody for her insightful contributions and encouragement and Roier for his insistance on the possibility of all things, especially the possibility of their not being.

thats what im talking boutttt

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Indigos, crystals, rainbows and aliens,
starseeds and walk-ins and wonders abound
shop for your favorite feel-good feeling
Will you know when the right mix has finally been found?
~sshenry 2008

The argument for - and against - the various New Age beliefs is as old as the movememt itself, and a quick search of the internet will provide an absolute avalanche of inforamtion, dis-information, self-help books, CD's full of "life-changing discoveries", offers for channelings, tarrot readings, astrology readings. Read far enough and you'll find references to starseeds, walk-ins, rainbows, crystals, octarines, indigos...well, you get the idea.

So how does a rational person decide what is legitimate, and what can be discarded? How does one determine where they belong - what label applies to you?

And I say -
WHAT DOES IT MATTER?

Everyone on this planet has had moments of thinking that they might not belong here - that they might have been born into the wrong family. But I don't think that this is because the person is a changeling or an alien in disguise, I think it is because the person has finally become aware, they have woken up, and in a world full of sleeping people, being awake can be a very lonely and isolating thing.

It is my humble opinion that most New Age beliefs are just another set of illusions to wrap our senses up in in order to keep us from waking up to the true nature of reality - just one more layer of the Matrix if you will, like nationalities or sexes or cultures...

Because at the heart of it, if the soul/spirit is real, then it would by definition trancend any physical or genetic differences. The soul would be a vehicle, a vessel for the soul. So it wouldn't matter if the "soul" were from earth, mars or the second galaxy to the right of eternity...all souls or spirits would be part of the greater source (call it whatever you will....god, shakinah, tao, whatever).

To be able to see beyond the physical differences....to be able to see the ghost in the machine, is to trancend the need for "us" and "them" and work together instead for the awakening of any and all who can be persuaded to see through the illusion.

Just a thought

I couldn't have said it better meself

Color Matter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0ay5S6hWJI =)

A textual breathe of a fresh air. Perfect example of what the golden age of thought will be like

yes its cool, i didn't really new about new age before to read things here, well i was thinking of it as a musical inspiration more than anything else, but i now that lots of stuff into like free parties or transe parties, like gaïa concept , and also in spiral tribe things , and things in hacker refer also to some common stuff around aliens and some mind concept, somewhat not in science and also not into a particular religion but taking part from everything and create like a new spiritual conception =)

like some kind of flier for transe parties :





one sound system from friend is called 'alien familly nation' or 'alien familly krew' =)

but then i just got into some research on the new age concept , and yes the indigo concept seem to come from those kind of things too =) seem to be linked also with some part of the hippie and peace and love things and psychedelic etc can be related with scientology also ,i looked a bit into scientologie its a bit the same concept of mixing up concept from various cult and see what we can get from it for our mind =)

a party i intended, massive , tone of electronics, like, sound , high quality everything wonderfull

Thank you sshenry I really enjoyed this thread. There should be more just like this one.

The more we know, the more we see. Sometimes that's a little hard to handle, that's what we have to transcend.

Men see appearances, god sees hearts.

To find yourself you need to eliminate yourself.

And the only way to trancend is to to accept what is happening, and in order to accept one must understand.

this is where the difficulties arrise, for the reality that takes shape around us as our eyes open is so incredibly different than the one that we have been taught to understand and to accept as real.

Respect. The whole point of awakening is to break your identifications with the world, and find who you really are in essence underneath your mind's concetual map of reality. To simply adopt a set of 'new age' or 'spiritual' buzzwords and beliefs is, as you say, simply another layer of illusion created to enhance the ego. "I'm more spiritual/enlightened than you"

There is some truth in this 'movement', but there is a lot of erroneous fasehood, misunderstanding, misinterpretation (and in some cases just plain geeky weirdness) to sift through in order to find it. We must be careful to avoid the pitfalls that have rendered most religions practically useless in identifying with the practice and losing sight of the truth, leaving you with nothing but empty words, spiritual though they may sound. There is an old Zen saying "The finger that points to the moon is not the moon"

In terms of Spirituality it matters far more how deeply you know yourself than what colour you think your 'aura' is.

some people just like to fit in. nobody forces people to determine what they are, if anybody chooses to learn what they are classed as, it is out of free will, and the pure curiosity to learn.

also its really fun, reguardless of how pointless it is. i bet you everybody who has posted here took the indigo, starseed, dolphin, crystal, psychic, alien, ect. tests in order to see where they fit best. and what has every response to the thread been? agreeing that yup, it is not really important. its just fun.

i could ask why do people try hard in life, same thing, its not important to do so, its just something people do in order to not be bored and regret not ever trying things. also its a nice thing to help other people out, maybe telling people they belong to a group is helpful, at least in the loneliness department it would be.

For the sake of freedom and simplicity, I do not worry about if something really exists or not. Usually, I care about if according to my personal experiences, it works for me even if it does not exist for all people (it is enough that it is real for me). If I find people with similar beliefs than mine they will see the same reality, but if the opposite occurs, they will probably never agree with me. So, my opinion about new age and about any kind of belief system is that they can believe anything they want as long they do not harm themselves and other people.

Genius - three gold stars

Actually some times I think that's right - just because you can't fully explain something doesn't mean that it doesn't have some truth in it. Like Chakras - there is little medical or scientific evidence to back up their theory, and it conflicts on some points with the Chinese Acu-Channels and meridian maps - yet I still find some of what is written about Chakras to be useful in understanding things which otherwise seem to be without cause. Different theories don't have to be mutually exclusive, all that matters is that they work for you. Just because you cannot prove something does not mean that it is not true, it only means that you can't fully explain it.

The only problem would be when you become too attached to a particular theory. In Zen it is emphasised that the teaching, however profound, is no substitute for the direct realisation.

Stagnation of thought breeds reptiles of the mind.

I didn't take such tests. I started reading the indigo traits and thought it seemed too suspicious because almost everyone has many of those traits at some point or another. Then I started questionings it. Then I heard all this stuff about starseeds and aliens and all that and I decided I didn't even care about any of these silly little labels. And I'm very skeptical of any of the aliens things, they all seem so very far-fetched and I've yet to see anything that would make me believe in it.
So, in short, I realized I didn't believe in such labels and so I never took the tests.

I agree, though I'll add all other such labels and things that are not new age to the list of illusions that seem rather pointless.

Oh, I don't know if the illusions are pointless as such - but more a step in the evolution of consciousness. After all, we can't appreciate the oneness of things until we have experienced duality and seperatness.

Just my opinion of course