Indigo Pride

[Sarcinarious Joe!]

I feel that pride gets in the way of developing our abilities. Pride has the potential to cause blockages interrupting focus and can lead to the blind acceptance of falsehoods. Pride inflates the ego and interferes with personal and cultural relationships.

So many wise men and women have warned against pride, so many doctrines put forth recommending against it. Why not heed their warning? White pride has been historically noted as a sorry ocurrance resulting in the persecution of countless people. The consequences have been both monumental and catastrophic. Hitler believed in a lot of philosophies comparable to the stuff involving Sirius and Grey Aliens and whatnot that so often appear on forums such as these. To his viewpoint, the aryan race held a similar status of that which we percieve belonging to indigos: A more spiritually advanced people with a purpose. And it was he who implied that the non-aryans were inferior, but he thought he was doing a service for the world. A holocaust happened over this.

Now I know it can be frustrating at times when the general population seems to be on a different level, but this does not make them inferior in anyway. We wouldn't be here without them and by distancing ourselves from them over something as trivial as difference, we are submitting to the same injustice we indigos claim to loathe. The whole "us and them" binary point of view is a really good way to box yourself, but by boxing oneself one is choosing to negate their indigo purpose and is thus submitting to the cultural codes we find so hard to endure.

The proud indigo is just as bad, if not worse than the 'regular people' the proud indigo so often belittles. For the indigo has the ability to advance beyond what they are, whereas the 'regular people' can only remain what they are. The indigo who neglects this duty of humble advancement is forsaking responsibility both to themselves and the sum of life, choosing ignorance over an enduring, but rewarding process. And perhaps is even capable of rendering themselves indigo no more(or at least dampening potential).

I'm sure we've all had our stuggles with pride. For instance, sometimes when I obtain knowledge that I had not before I become proud. When proud I am so focused on the having of this knowledge that I do not always practice it. And if I don't practice it, I don't really have it.

Knowledge is a process, not a collection of facts. Facts change. Five hundred years ago it was fact that the world was flat. The process of knowledge has changed that fact. The man who goes around saying he is wise is a fool. One cannot call themselves wise, they must prove that they are such through practice, and if they are practicing correctly, they will be recognized as such.

Has anybody any methods of liberating themselves from pride?

So far I have only been using conscious awareness of instances of prideful behavior within myself whenever possible to prevent it from happening more often. The only other thing I can think of besides conscious and deliberate effort is prayer(or whatever you want to call it). I guess meditation could be helpful, but I'm not well versed in such arts and perhaps need some assistance to get the ideas flowing as to what type of meditation would be appropriate. I can think of visualizing something that represents pride and cleansing or dissapating it. Or perhaps envisioning light or water or something washing over/penetrating you thus purifying one of pride. Or even just keeping the mind still, blank, and pride-free. I'm not sure, but I would like to hear your thoughts on the matter.

[angelalouisa]

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[Marie]

Hi, I found that once I accepted that I was not perfect, and that perfect is a myth (socially constructed idea-more about how society places value on something).

I think that essentiall we are all one, whether we are Indigo, crystal, rainbow, lightworker ect. i think that these terms are more about describing particular souls and the characteristics of them which help to achieve things on earth. Where am I going with this you may wonder? Well, I am thinking that it is okay to admit defeat, that we were wrong ect. I will give you just one example, one day at work (I work with children), a child kept asking me questions which I was happy to answer as I like to (and believe in ) feed children's thirst for knowledge. Anyway, she actually started to ask me questions that I didn't know the answers to. So I said to the child "well, actually I am not sure why", but then she said to me "why" ( Good thing that I have a sense of humour), so I said to her "well I know lots of things, but I don't know everything", and then would you believe she asked me another question "why", so I said "well there is lots of information in this world to know, it would take a long time to sit down and read everything". The child was satisfied with that answer. I thought it was quite funny. I think that adults indirectly teach us as children that to not know something makes you inferior, therefore do not admit that you do not know. Wouldn't it be great if we could teach children that it is okay to not know something, that you can always go and learn about something and that it is actually interesting $to do this? Maybe people would follow their interests more and also stop doing things that do not work for them anymore. How many people do you know who keep doin the same thing, which clearly is not effective, but they keep doing it anyway? Actually to get to the point where you recognise that it is not working, you would hav to have an open mind, where you were willing to introspect yourself, an emotional place/space where you could aknowledge that they just may do some things that aren't right/not working. I think that some people cannot get to this emotional place/space, as that would be too painful.

Those are just a few random thoughts, I could probably go on forever but will leave it here.

Marie

[iamdifferent]

Yes,trying to change that Trying so hard and I think it's going quite well.

[Xarthalas]

Pride has led to a ton of serious problems, and pride will like many other traits always be dangerous when moderation falls away. However, Pride in moderation can be a very good thing, and I wish a lot of people had a little bit more pride. It's good to have a little bit of pride in who you are.

- Roy

[Fragments]

I feel that pride may be alright, to a point. I think that just like anything else, it has the potential to spiral out of control. It needs to be moderated...greatly.

I really wouldn't be one to say how to control pride. Other than observing and reflecting on your thoughts, and nipping it in the bud when it surfaces.

[truthseeker]

agree completely.Good analogy with the whole Hitler/Aryan race thing,never thought of that. It's so interesting how history repeats itself....

[Marie]

I feel that pride may be alright, to a point. I think that just like anything else, it has the potential to spiral out of control. It needs to be moderated...greatly.

I really wouldn't be one to say how to control pride. Other than observing and reflecting on your thoughts, and nipping it in the bud when it surfaces.

Is pride linked to ego, I wonder?

Yes, some pride is good, but like you said, it can spiral out of control or rather, as I like to think of it, become unbalanced. Like all religeous concepts, sometimes we get carried away with following rituals and routines, but then lose the whole heart of the matter eg stop being compassionate or worse still, not show compassion at all, but rather just come out with some sort of concept, to show that theyre suffering is in some way their own fault, this may be some okay to some extent, eg you can teach someone about specific concept related to buddhism for example, but then we can also show compassion with how we deliver our message/s and not cut off our feelings/thoughts ect through doing it.

After all, isn't compassion at the heart of buddhism. By the way, am not targeting Buudhism/Buddhists specifically, was just using that as an example with how we can get lost/become unbalanced ir respect to following ideas/ lose focus sight.

Marie

[Marie]

I feel that pride gets in the way of developing our abilities. Pride has the potential to cause blockages interrupting focus and can lead to the blind acceptance of falsehoods. Pride inflates the ego and interferes with personal and cultural relationships.

So many wise men and women have warned against pride, so many doctrines put forth recommending against it. Why not heed their warning? White pride has been historically noted as a sorry ocurrance resulting in the persecution of countless people. The consequences have been both monumental and catastrophic. Hitler believed in a lot of philosophies comparable to the stuff involving Sirius and Grey Aliens and whatnot that so often appear on forums such as these. To his viewpoint, the aryan race held a similar status of that which we percieve belonging to indigos: A more spiritually advanced people with a purpose. And it was he who implied that the non-aryans were inferior, but he thought he was doing a service for the world. A holocaust happened over this.

Now I know it can be frustrating at times when the general population seems to be on a different level, but this does not make them inferior in anyway. We wouldn't be here without them and by distancing ourselves from them over something as trivial as difference, we are submitting to the same injustice we indigos claim to loathe. The whole "us and them" binary point of view is a really good way to box yourself, but by boxing oneself one is choosing to negate their indigo purpose and is thus submitting to the cultural codes we find so hard to endure.

The proud indigo is just as bad, if not worse than the 'regular people' the proud indigo so often belittles. For the indigo has the ability to advance beyond what they are, whereas the 'regular people' can only remain what they are. The indigo who neglects this duty of humble advancement is forsaking responsibility both to themselves and the sum of life, choosing ignorance over an enduring, but rewarding process. And perhaps is even capable of rendering themselves indigo no more(or at least dampening potential).

I'm sure we've all had our stuggles with pride. For instance, sometimes when I obtain knowledge that I had not before I become proud. When proud I am so focused on the having of this knowledge that I do not always practice it. And if I don't practice it, I don't really have it.

Knowledge is a process, not a collection of facts. Facts change. Five hundred years ago it was fact that the world was flat. The process of knowledge has changed that fact. The man who goes around saying he is wise is a fool. One cannot call themselves wise, they must prove that they are such through practice, and if they are practicing correctly, they will be recognized as such.

Has anybody any methods of liberating themselves from pride?

So far I have only been using conscious awareness of instances of prideful behavior within myself whenever possible to prevent it from happening more often. The only other thing I can think of besides conscious and deliberate effort is prayer(or whatever you want to call it). I guess meditation could be helpful, but I'm not well versed in such arts and perhaps need some assistance to get the ideas flowing as to what type of meditation would be appropriate. I can think of visualizing something that represents pride and cleansing or dissapating it. Or perhaps envisioning light or water or something washing over/penetrating you thus purifying one of pride. Or even just keeping the mind still, blank, and pride-free. I'm not sure, but I would like to hear your thoughts on the matter.

I think, that maybe we just need to love ourselves more-unconditionally-and unlike in the way that we have been taught or conditioned. For example, if we recognise, that we are all one (am referring to the law of one), then it doesn''y matter if we do something foolish or silly, as we already love ourselves and will not have our self esteem affected, Plus, we have to lose the tendency to want to be right all the time, instead be willing to share ideas and work together in order to achieve goals/set outcomes, rather than thinking and feeling that we have to do it all ourselves, with us being righyt all the time in how we c hoose to go around doing things.

Marie

P.S Am also thinking that maybe forgiveness may be a component in all of this? Can we love ourselves enough, in the sense, that should we make a mistake and or a wrong decision which leads to a bad outcomne (or an outcome that we percieve is "bad" or not to our likings/what we hoped for ect), that we are then able to forgive ourselves and move on?