Empaths - Common Traits?

[Darrikson]

The document is nearing completion, about halfway through now, I think. I need more information on two or three sections, concerning ethics, common traits, and further/extended reading/research.

And the last thread resulted in success. I have figured out where phenomenal empathy differs from the cognitive, and additionally, have termed it "harmonic empathy". The following is the document definition, and explanation of harmonic empathy:
The distinction between cognitive empathy and harmonic empathy is a simple one. Cognitive empathy is understood on an instinctual level, while harmonic empathy is felt. This is similar to emotional contagion. Emotional contagion is most easily explained by example, in that: He's scared, so now I'm scared. The distinction between harmonic empathy and emotional contagion is the phenomenal aspect. In emotional contagion, another persons emotional state must first be recognized, we must understand another person is scared before we become susceptible to fear ourselves.

Harmonic empathy is not brought on by understanding, an empath can be suddenly gripped by an irrational fear, anger, irritability, without originally feeling this way themselves. Seperate from what might be classified as a panic attack, the empath is experiencing the feelings of another person. The empathic experience is not exclusive to negative feelings, an empath is equally likely to suddenly feel pleased, at peace, tranquil, or hyper, depending on their company.

[Presupposition]So how does harmonic empathy work? Well, as with most psychic phenomena, noones really quite sure. However, this document will work off the assumption that harmonic empathy works in conjunction with a persons "aura", as defined by this document.

An "aura" is the external layer of energy surrounding the body. It is not holographic in nature, but may be perceived holographically, either through spectrographs or by eyesight. It is composed of many energetic layers, contributed by different processes in the body, including but not limited to, a persons emotions, state of mind, spiritual state, health of the internal organs, the nervous system, bio electric field, and natural magnetic field. In short, if it has to do with you or your body, it contributes to your aura. Even composed of all the layers, the aura acts as a single entity, similar to how a persons skin is composed of many different nerves, glands, and layers, it is regarded as a single organism.

It is unknown which, or how many, of these layers are used to communicate emotions among auras utilizing harmonic empathy.

Many of the different techniques in this document, explaining how to manage, deal with, and control harmonic empathy is given in conjunction with advice on how to control ones aura. Hence this presumption is necessary.

How does harmonic empathy work? As the name implies, it is based on resonance. The easiest metaphor is tuning forks. When two tuning forks of the same pitch are brought in proximity of each other, only one needs to be struck for both to resound the same note. This would be most similar to emotional contagion. However, when tuning forks of varying pitch are brought in proximity, and one is struck, the other will answer with its own different note. Both forks sound the same note at different pitches, hence the experience is not one of exact replication, but harmonic resonance.

When an empath's aura comes into contact with another persons, whatever "note" that persons aura is broadcasting will be picked up by the empath, and harmoized with. Hence the empath will then begin feeling as the subject does, simply by being in proximity to them.
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I've observed some commonality between empaths, as character goes, but I have some lingering questions myself, wondering if others have similar experiences as myself, involving harmonic empathy. The fault here, is that many of the character traits describe the character traits of indigos as well. I have yet to determine if there is any relational value between empaths and indigos.

Here are the questions for this round:

Do you feel your emotions, and emotional reactions, are significantly stronger than other peoples? (Do you feel you love deeper than others, your anger is more potent than most peoples, etc?)

When empathising, are the emotions felt as strong as your own? Do they seem muted or different in any way?

For those that do, when pushing your feelings onto or into another, or broadcasting in general, is the result as potent as the originating feeling?


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That's it for this series, I'm trying to identify if harmonic empathy follows the universal law of energy input<energetic outpit. As well, I'm curious if the hyper emotional state is the differential mark, or identifier between a harmonic empath, and an unaware cognitive empath.

Presumptively, thank you to all respondents.

[h0bby1]

you approach lots of intersting things here for the thing around emotional contagion, maybe i don't know there is somekind of simple contagion when you just detect some pattern like fear or anger and that you instinctivly react accordingly, but for more subtle emotions or general mind state, it generally like tone voice or body posture or thing that od not correspond to a clearly defined label, and the ppl is in some mind state resulting of complex things , well then i guess it need some bit of cognitive thing =) which lead a bit to the grid conception =) for aura , again i don't really know, but there is conception i think is more tangible when working around empathy would be a mental aura of the person, like the visualisation with halo around the body is ok, but instead of the aura in a body, you can use the mental representation you have of the person, like making the representation of the person in your mind, and seing aura around this thing, like thing you relate to the person, but can be more general than somekind of measurable known physical energy =) but energy is quite an abstract concept however you look at it, but well a comparison i like to make is with particle intriglement, when 2 particule have the same odd behavior througth a magnetic field, they observe this quite a lot in quantic mecanics, and they can't find an explanation for it, cause it is suposed to happen also with 2 thing very far from each other, suposedly if it was some kind of information that would have to travel between both, it would be faster than light and setup lot of question, and the other theory is like the two particule have similar properties that make then react together, like 2 clock that indicate the same hour all across the globe, because they have the exact same mecanics and are in the same enverionement =) i think empathy can work abit like that, like with ppl i care, i always try to guess in what environeent they are, and i empatize this, even if i don't know if its true the feeling can still be there =)

but for trying thing around emotional reaction , well once you know some communication tricks and are a bit empathic, it is really easy to manipulate lots of ppl, and well, can be interesting but they are still ppl well sometime ppl will get stuck with some emotions, some feeling that they did not understand and blah blah and playing with this in an uncarefull way can lead to odd things lol when i was a kid i played some time with it with some ppl and when i saw that it really work, i was a bit scared lol

for emotions reactions, well dunno i'm a still a bit new with all vocabulary and such , but well for me it is bit like in a thread starseed made with emotion detachement etc, well it is somekind of balance with my emtions, ppl emotions, reaction ppl have , reaction i will have, what i will see from their reaction, what they will see i see from their reaction, what they will see from my reaction etc lol so generally i try not to go too much into this, or only with ppl i really know and that i care of =) or when i really want something from the person i can push it a bit =) even sometime you can empatize for a person in a imaginary situation or what =) it is why i think it is maybe modelisable with same models than other physical energies in the way input<ouput, but not sure it is really linked to something physical =) well sometime you can go an imagine tons of situation ,involving a person , which will never happen, it will still be able to create some kind of empathy and in a physical point of view of energy, it would not really match

[h0bby1]

for aura thing, i wrote a thing in how i view it with anomalia zelta some time ago

http://indigosociety.com/showthread....ght=explaining

[h0bby1]

but a physical like energy view could be ok if you consider one ppl at time, like if the system is the only brain of the person, where the boundaries are your sense, and you try to get what the person can feel directly, and what he can deduce from the thing, in considering one person reality in could make sense, but in a general way, like world wide, or implying more than one body/soul,that each one stimulate each other empathy and imagination, creating each one their one projections of each other, in real situation or imaginary situation and you want to study energy flowing into this good luck

[h0bby1]

sometime it is a bit flagrant with DJing or choosing music to put in a place with several ppl, or choosing a destination or something, that you project into ppl, and try to empatise to know if he will like it or not, according to his current mind state and things , but it is still half empatising with imaginary situation, like you project the ppl in that place with that music etc etc

[h0bby1]

well you can rely on using common symbols /stereotyps and things, i guess there are some known rules to tell what this or that ppl will like, a bit the kind of thing used by politicians or marketing ppls, like using more logical rules =) but also can be done more instinctivly =)

[Darrikson]

but a physical like energy view could be ok if you consider one ppl at time, like if the system is the only brain of the person, where the boundaries are your sense, and you try to get what the person can feel directly, and what he can deduce from the thing, in considering one person reality in could make sense, but in a general way, like world wide, or implying more than one body/soul,that each one stimulate each other empathy and imagination, creating each one their one projections of each other, in real situation or imaginary situation and you want to study energy flowing into this good luck

Thanks hobby, as always, your responses are welcomed and appreciated. I see what you are saying here, and agree that using this system on a massive scale, it becomes diluted and confusing. But then, I don't see it as being any different than the idea of competing memes, which I regard as a seperate, but relational field of study.

[Magnus]

I obviously feel more strongly to those that know me good and bad emotions and my will power is very strong due to that.

When I feel another's pain, most of the time I can just let it roll off my shoulders and develop understanding and have a deeper level of compassion. If I don't understand it, due to some traumatic experience that they have blocked, it hits me harder. For example, last night I cried very hard and long because I couldn't understand a person's dilemma. There is always a sense of great compassion that accompanies this empathy.

I do not see auras though. I only can feel the presence.

[h0bby1]

but for comparing this with physical energy i don't know does a music volume in decibel , like the physical measure of the energy within it, will have a direct impact on the amount of emotions it give =)

[h0bby1]

there are things that goes a bit beyong the physical way of conceptualising energy or with rythm etc

[h0bby1]

but maybe you can tell projecting is something like a matching between (possibly memorised) emotional state, and another thing, which could be more simple to explain in an energetic point of view =) like when you want to choose a music, you 'read' ppl state of mind, and you try to guess a potential thing to wake them up, quiet them down, make them feel this or that, but there is still a part of imagination =)