On the question of "Aliens"

**Mandrabel** · 12-04-2008

1. The grey aliens which so many have reported seeing are the product of our evolutionary processes 52,000 and 45,000 years in the future.
2. The purpose of these "aliens", who are truly human, is to stop the 2012 catastrophe.
3. The 2012 catastrophe is the point at which the mayan snake-rope returns. This will cause an energy impartation and heightening of spiritual awareness.
4. If the stargates remain open the snake-rope will bring destruction, killing 2/3 of the Earth's population.
5. The stargates are wormhole technology in the possesion of the U.S. government as well as some other foreign governments.
6. The so called "flying saucers" are alien technology, but the ones which have been sighted authentically are the ones in the control of the U.S. government.
7. Abductions occured on the part of our descendents because our genetic material is pure and could help them to cure their genetic ailments.
8. Good people exist such as Drs. Dan Burisch and Marcia McDowell who attempt to get the truth out.

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Pray for unity that we may be one as we pass through this perilous time, my brothers and sisters.

**beautifulmind** · 12-04-2008

Could you elaborate more on "snake -rope"? This is the first I have heard of this term. Also do you think that some "sightings" have been holographic in nature?

**Sephish** · 12-04-2008

Sounds like too much scifi channel, but my ideas are pretty weird so it's not my place to judge... But like Beautiful said, I'm not familiar with the term either, sounds interesting...

**AmentiHall** · 12-06-2008

Your facts are true but missing a lot of information, in particular the spiritual significances of what is happening. Of course this is ALL opinion and my understanding, so like I said when it comes to this there is NO facts.

First of all the Grey's are not here to help us, they never were. They are interested in their own survival and it is not just because our genetics are pure, it is because it is because our genetics have a large grand scale of potential. We have genetics supposedly from many different races of aliens throughout the time, and as such we could be viewed as an experiment of duality.One in which polarity integrates itself into a "game" or scenario in an attempt for all souls to be able to evolve. If one race is too polarized in the light, or the anti-light then there chances for true evolution become stagnant. It is through the darkness that we see light, and through suppression that we learn true inherent meaning of what freedom is.

The greys are one of the only aliens that most people are aware of because they are the most common sighted. They are the work force (supposed clones without souls) of the draconian and greater original Greys (zephillum) who are supposedly a dying race, either that or they are at a "static" point of their evolution because their suppressors have somehow managed to corrupt their genetic material and seek a way out through us. They are not evil so to speak, except for the fact that like the draconians they are "pure ego" and as such suffer from complete disconnection from the original source or eternal life if you will. In otherwords they are cut off, this is why they can appear demonic to people. Not all grey's are negative, just the ones we interface with unfortunately.

2012 is a natural phase change that earth undergoes when it's at an evolutionary ascension cycle. It is merely the beginning of a new age, and because of the technology here, and the significance of the energies emanating from all sources THIS is the time of GREAT power. The positive aliens (for sake of argument we'll simplify them) are trying to get us to wake up, realize our potential, and help the earth ascend into a greater harmonious state of consciousness, while the negative aspect is trying to suppress us and keep us disconnected from one another.

What I'm trying to tell you is the reason the NWO agendas are accelerating faster than they EVER have, and the media and technology have become our greatest suppressors (except for free exchange of information on internet) is because of the extreme significance of the 2012 era. JUST because the idea and natural cycle is supposed to be positive, doesn't mean there doesn't exist technology to USE this positive energy for the WRONG reasons..and that is in fact a virtual enslavement (subtle) of most of this planet. And what I mean by that is enslaved by ignorance, lack of spirituality, lack of awareness, consumerism, "distractions" and any real knowledge of we are or what we are capable of. This is in fact the reason for so many starseeds and indigos from so many different lines incarnating here, to help the situation.

The stargates do in fact exist, but the reason the EARTH (halls of amenti) stargates are valuable is because the connect to density 2 expression of earth and 4 different densities. The stargate opens around this time..they are NOT like you see in the movies, in order to understand this you must have an understanding of the spiritual components, and the mechanics behind multi-dimensional technology. It is not a big huge gate that you just walk through. actual spiritual "ascension" actually happens through these "Gates" as well. Because of them opening it gives the regressive races an opportunity to come in and do what they have to do, and that is just the MANIPULATION and deception of human beings while their own culture is integrated into ours. We won't see anything different happen (besides alot of the calamities) and we will be tricked into "saviors."

Any beings that claim they are here to save us, or help us are most likely deceiving you. The positive ones are the ones saying "look here is information, here is the mechanics, now wake up and become self responsible for your own fate." Because THAT is true evolution, no being can force us to do it (although some are trying through OUR own leaders who have sold us out).

In the end we must become self aware, self responsible and choose our OWN fate, not what a culture of polarized light beings or the opposite expression of that tells us is "right." Form our own unique identity, because they understand that earth humans with our infinite potential can do whatever we wish. And there are some who are afraid of this and view us as valuable, as we might view a farm as an asset.

Human aliens are in fact real, and most are positive. The greys are NOT humans, they do have the ability to time-travel..but that is a misconception.

Some of it sound sci-fi, but it is not as sensational as some will have you believe...It is quite real, and only in this time period can WE use the positive energies for freedom.

**TeslaKid** · 12-06-2008

What do we know: That there is an infinite cosmos

What don't we know: Pretty much everything

In conclusion i'd say there is no silly theory because they could very well be real and possibly even stranger than predicted

**adonis777** · 12-08-2008

The world as we know it will end in 2012,

in fire,

all the great prophets (awakened ones) have stated it,

ascension is a spiritual concept,

it is not a materialist concept,

what does that mean,

it means a lot,

it´s the like trying to describe to a fish what it is like to be a bird.

**iti** · 12-08-2008

Originally Posted by adonis777

The world as we know it will end in 2012,

in fire,

all the great prophets (awakened ones) have stated it,

ascension is a spiritual concept,

it is not a materialist concept,

what does that mean,

it means a lot,

it´s the like trying to describe to a fish what it is like to be a bird.

What prophets have said 2012 is the exact date?

**adonis777** · 12-08-2008

Originally Posted by iti

What prophets have said 2012 is the exact date?

the mayans to start,

but of course you probably never thought of them as prophets.

**iti** · 12-08-2008

Originally Posted by adonis777

the mayans to start,

but of course you probably never thought of them as prophets.

I didnt say I did or didnt.

But as far as I know (I am not properly informed) their calender ends on 28 oct 2011 (some people say 2012). They didnt actually predict it would end. If I am missing some information can you let me know so I can do some more research.

**adonis777** · 12-08-2008

Originally Posted by iti

I didnt say I did or didnt.

But as far as I know (I am not properly informed) their calender ends on 28 oct 2011 (some people say 2012). They didnt actually predict it would end. If I am missing some information can you let me know so I can do some more research.

Actually there are a lot of thread here in the forum,

in the mayan 2012 section,

I´ve posted a lot of things there,

the point of origin for practical purposes is global warming,

it´s a mask to cover up the approach of planet x,

x is getting close to the sun and it is activating its elctromagnetic field,

that is the real cause of global warming,

the world will end in fire,

just as the bible predicted it,

the bible calls planet x wormwood.

**oreides** · 12-08-2008

what will you guys think if 2012 comes, and goes?

**iti** · 12-08-2008

Originally Posted by adonis777

Actually there are a lot of thread here in the forum,

in the mayan 2012 section,

I´ve posted a lot of things there,

the point of origin for practical purposes is global warming,

it´s a mask to cover up the approach of planet x,

x is getting close to the sun and it is activating its elctromagnetic field,

that is the real cause of global warming,

the world will end in fire,

just as the bible predicted it,

the bible calls planet x wormwood.

Adonis I am not trying to questions your beliefs. I am glad you are so sure of this happening. Always good to have faith.

But isnt prophecy always open to interpretation, depending on the person who interprets it.

As for 2012, the sun will reach it peak of sunspot activity and then for 12 years there will be almost no sunspots and this will allow earth an extra 12 years to combat global warming.

The earth is overdue for an electromagnetic pole shift anyway which will remove the magnetic field around earth so maybe 2012 is what this is pointing at. Not much radiation from the sun so the magnetic field of earth wont be here for 12 years then it will not cause so much damage.

I have never seen anything mentioning planet x in the bible but I have trouble interpreting revelations some of it is very obscure.

But then again different religions have different views on the end of the world.

i believe the burning of fossil fuels is the cause of the global warming. But I think science is not accurately predicting it.

**Sephish** · 12-08-2008

Originally Posted by oreides

what will you guys think if 2012 comes, and goes?

I'd be very disappointed... Probably sit on the couch, crying for a few days... Then laugh at it all...

**AmentiHall** · 12-09-2008

No offense, but I am past the point of 2012 being an end.

And it is in fact a very un-informed way of viewing what is happening.

By saying such things you are essentially giving the idea "life." Among with many other people who are un-informed.

Nowhere do the MAYANS say that it is the end of the world. It is the END of a calendar in which we cross the dark rift of the galaxy which is considered to be the underworld of Mayan lore. Do the research, even most "descendants" and keepers of mayan lore claim that it is not an end, but a transformation, a CHANGE with infinite potential (depending on where we choose to go). It is a NATURAL cycle within the galaxy that is being used both positively (for us) and negatively (to suppress us). It s important to educate yourself on the significance of such an occurrence because it will determine the future of our perception of reality.

And again the "ignorant" viewpoint of youtubers viewing Planet X as wormwood, when wormwood is a term for the matrix or grid of cosmic "energy" or "Grid" that was stripped from this planet long ago (almost like its own planet).

Planet X, also known as Niburu is the idea of many sensationalists as an "Armageddon" type device in which the Annunaki are going to destroy us with the planet. This is again..mis-informed and complete assumption.

The truth if the Draconians, Greys, or Annunaki wanted to destroy us they would of done so a LONG time ago. Their long time goal isn't destruction or hostile takeover, it is a SUBTLE INTERNAL takeover, and suppression of the Angelic Human Race (and it's original purpose). And besides they have been HERE and around us for a LONG time, they don't need planet X to do it... From what I hear Niburu is actually a hollowed out HUGE planet that is able to travel through space, and contains many different types of "et" life some of which agree some of which do not (like us).

2012 WILL come and GO. In the spectrum of the cosmos or a "god" or even a being that lives much loner than us, "ends" nor "changes" happen in ONE DAY AND ONE YEAR. That is the low human perspective.if anything it will happen over a period of 100 years. Maybe 20, maybe 30. That is why I view the people who expected 2000 to be and end as idiots, and same with those who claim it didn't happen. It could be happening NOW. And look at the HUGE changes in thought patterns and frequency..indeed something since late nineties to now and beyond is occurring.

But it is NOT an end...do your research and educate yourself on these subjects before making such elaborate statements. It is the "trend" of sensationalists to believe. I too went through my phase of looking and exploring the sensationalist "prophecies" of end times, until I started doing more digging and realized there is MUCH more concrete and detailed information than the drivel you see on youtube. It is just a matter of continuing to learn and explore past the idea that "OMG AN END IS COMING."You will find much more.

**Simi1012** · 12-21-2008

it is the count down...4 years from today!

**AnyxLyrica** · 09-09-2010