Beware of the False Guru!

[April Maple]

There are a lot of spiritual leaders out there and there are also a lot of charlatons. It is important to be able to tell the difference between the two.

1. A spiritual leader does not force their truths upon anybody, but lets their students figure it out for themselves. The spiritually developed person understands that the lesser developed may not be at the point where they can grasp certain truths.

1. A spiritual leader who appears threatened by their subordinates is no spiritual leader. This also works in reverse, say a subordinate recognizes a spiritual leader as a false guru and even feels that he/she may have more developed spiritual powers than the said "guru". If the subordinate is truly more powerful than the guru, the subordinate will not feel threatened by the guru.

[starfish]

Wise words...& astout observations...

[EnemyAtLineSix]

ha yes
does that imply telling people theyre made of light
billions of particles of infinite potential fit in there?

[Indigo Traveler]

The question is who wants to be guru? or what the people want really? I think Guru, teacher, or helper...what ever they will offer, if that helps helps...

Here we all say many things, and so far we dont follow any body but realte and learn from each other...
I think to say your trùth do not make any body to follow you...

The false guru prblem is whan somebody intent you to follow.

Everybody can say what they experience and know. If you feel like following ro atracted, you better see your own base, and ask youself first why you follow...

There si alot of powerfull and magnetic people around the world and betwen us here, all beautiful. You need to see yourself what you do

each need to have own responsibility.

I experienced that our awareness is important.

Sometimes we know, as indigo, we know really, beyound what we see or what all see.

But also happend that sometimes we think we know and we dont know.

I agree, is important to be aware. Many people try to teach. And get followers. To get followers, means always also to inspire them to follow. Some people do it by being honest and truthfull, others by hidding their own real goals.

Who are we to judge. Probbaly also realized beings cannot tell us all. Probbaly many dont know all and they just do. Probably we just judge. Probably we just simple know... who are we to judge others, but the decistion to be or follow is our responsiblity

In any case, even somebody promess me the heaven and what ever thing, i dont care, i really go for today, and my own learning process, my own expoeriences and understanding. And dont let others convince me to let go my own responsibility over my own path, what ever promess they do, or if they want to convince me i am wrong or not. I will notice my self .....

Sometimes if people dont try to convince yuo, and they say so, even tough, they , if powerfull, use their own mind and invisible energy to conditionate you to follow. I found many this way that have many followers.

I am not impressed by miracles. Or by sensation or vibration or nice words and stories or myths.

I am just dedicated to my own realization, and waking up this ultimate love, beyound the knowledge i have already.

Then, if i am honest about my self and what i really learn and what I really want and need, then all will be fine, i think i can decide and be responsible about my self...

[ethtardo]

help me to help u

[April Maple]

I agree with a lot of what you have said indigo traveler.

[GeoSpirit]

This deserves a bump too.

[amunrah]

although... sometimes those readying to become guru's may first need to fully grasp themselves,

before being able to reach others

Things are less often black and white...

more often shades of grey.

edit: Godevil we are all one

[GeoSpirit]

*bumps*

another thread worth noting.....

[evergreen]

thanks for bumping,

i enjoyed reading this.

[h0bby1]

[Ham]

a *real* guru.. has enough logic to know he (or she) is NUTS to begin with..

try following a *real* guru.. they will embarrass you..

if you're not embarrassed.. you just don't get it..