Mutual Dreams/Shared Dreams?

[oreides]

how do you think this works?


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does it have to be lucid?

i've had a few unconfirmed cases, but i did have my grandmother confirm one.

i think i drop in on people's dreams.

could i use this for good, or is that immoral?

[{{d*@*b}}]

This has happened to me quite a few times. I believe that it is because we are able to communicate mush easier through dreams. I don't think they have to be entirely lucid but at least one of the people has to be lucid in order to reckognize what is going on. I have induced lucidity and have had others induce lucidity in my dream through dream jumping. That is quite amazing when it happens because sometimes you can remember watching the other person become suddenly aware in the dream.

[oreides]

YES!!

exactly! i've had instances where they don't "wake up" and stay in his mumbling, sort of closed off world. but i'm in their dream, and we're alone. no one else is there, no matter what direction they turn to talk to. its as if, being lucid, i've dropped in on accident and i'm just sitting there wondering if they're nuts. and in their world, they're surrounded by people.

the three cases i'm thinking of all involve a particular person.

he says he rarely has a good dream. he's haunted by things, he wont even tell me what.

but i keep finding myself dropping in, even when i'm not entirely lucid.
we have a weird connection. before i even started looking into auras, he was walking up to me and i saw a giant yellow aura bursting around his head. ive never seen an aura like that before or since.

when he told me about his night terrors, i saw myself projecting into his dream as a wolf that chased away his demons.

when the thought occurred to me, i had no doubts that i could do this. its as if something whispered the thought into my head, as an option...

is this immoral? but if i drop in on dreams without my own doing, should i at least do good while i'm there?

[Sephish]

Sounds really cool... I've tried dreamscaping and stuff with my friend but I have problems becoming lucid in and remembering my dreams...

Edit: And I don't think it is immoral... I mean if the person tells you not to then maybe it is but I know that if I was having a bad dream, I'd want someone to drop in and save me...

[oreides]

ive been working on my lucidity. i'm constantly checking my reality and checking lightswitches. i've been pretty successful in working on my triggers...

[Sephish]

ive been working on my lucidity. i'm constantly checking my reality and checking lightswitches. i've been pretty successful in working on my triggers...

So that really works? I keep reading about it and tried it for a while but it didn't really work for me... I'll try it again though...

[oreides]

adonis is right.. dreams are a sort of reflection of our day. where we process it and such.

the more you question your reality, "is this a dream?" at random intervals... check lightswitches (a well-known trigger to realize its a dream... since for some reason lightswitches won't work in dreams.)... etc.

it works for me. the last time i went lucid was when i turned on a lightswitch and it did nothing. deja vu hit me and i realized something was up. questioned things and realized i was dreaming.

[Sephish]

There are so many blackouts around here broken light switches aren't really that weird, lol... But do you think trying to fly would count?

[oreides]

in real life? sure, i'm sure any sort of trigger that means something to you could work.

can i ask you though, do you think purposefully entering someone else's bad dreams would be frowned upon?

i want to help him out of his night terrors but i know i can't change anything.
i know its his own issues, his own demons.
i just want to help.

[{{d*@*b}}]

it's like any form of communication. It's al about how you go about it. Also, depending on how much of a lucid dreamer you are, you probably enter other peoples dreams and help them anyway. I have done it while not lucid myself and had other people come to me in waking life and remind me that I helped them in their dream. Last summer that happened with one of my band mates. Imho your dreams are not neccessarily entirely your own. They are a shared experience much like in real life. Interacting with your own psychy is part of the deal but not the sole purpose of dreaming.

[oreides]

fascinating.... thank you guys for your input. and sorry sephish, i didnt see your edit...

[sshenry]

trying to fly always works for me - and I'm always amazed when it works

[oreides]

.....bump....

[Tiamat]

... since I want to share my dream with people who understand

A few years ago, I had a wonderful dream. Scary and terrifying and wonderful... It was like a story. It's a bit long, I hope you have the patience to read it , so let me tell you about it:

It is a warm summer afternoon, and we're driving through a forest. Everything is full of life - the trees are beautiful and green, full of song. The sun is slowly starting to set, painting the clouds in shades of orange and pink.
I'm in a car with a few of my friends, wonderful, happy people (in real life, I didn't know any of them). We got a bit lost, but it's such a wonderful drive it really doesn't matter.
Suddenly we reached a ledge and couldn't go forward with a car anymore. There is a great chasm before us, it's bottom covered in white mist. We get out of the car, look around, and see an old gray bridge and a castle.
The caste is standing on the only piece of land that's rising from the depths of a bottomless chasm. Its stones are very old, covered with dried moss, grayed from time, its turrets are high and its walls mighty. We walk on the bridge, and as we get closer and closer to the castle we start to feel uncomfortable. Like a fly getting too close to a spiderweb, we feel there is something, someone inside. Standing on the bridge, and we throw a few stones in the depths to hear how far the land is, but we hear no sound as they fall out of sight - the ground is so far down, under the mists.

I'm feeling the need to go inside the castle, a great need, but my friends are very afraid of the feeling emanating from the castle. It is palpable, we can all feel this great wave of negative energy. So I leave them on a bridge and go towards the huge oak doors. I open the doors, walk inside, and find myself in a hallway. I know which way to go, there presence in the castle is guiding me and I cannot but follow his call.

I enter in a small room, and a door closes behind me. I can see now it's an elevator, and it's taking me down to the bowels of the castle where he is.
He is drawing me to him. He wants me. He has a great need of me. He wants to hold me forever. He is so strong, overpowering, he cannot be denied.
And as I see him, I understand his pain. He was a great man once. He fought in a war, on the side of good, but something happened, he lost all, and it warped him, it made him a power for the other side, and he is so twisted now. He despises himself for what he has become. He wants me, because in me he sees everything he lost. He just wants to be loved.
But his need for love is like a black hole, sucking all my energy, sucking all the love and it's not enough. I am failing - I pity him, I love him and I want to heal him, but he is too much for me.

And at the moment that I feel I'm going to die, a friend tears down the walls of the dungeon, the light shines through, and he saves me. I am in his arms, safe, but I cannot help but weep for the dark one. His pain... was so great.


Anyway, a few months after this dream, I'm having coffee with a few friends, one of whom I met just recently, and we come to the topic of dreams. And I start to tell them this dream, since it was so vivid and true, and this new friends, let's call him Joe, turns to me and say - I had the exact same dream.
I'm like, no way!
And Joe starts describing the bridge, and the castle - and it's the same place!
He was in the car with me as we drove to the castle. He was on the bridge with me, throwing stones to see how deep the chasm is. But he didn't go through the door. He was too afraid. And I tell him how the dream story ends...

I'd love to meet my savior from this dream and recognize him, if only to thank him for saving my life

[pebble]

I don't think it's immoral personally.

[Cebren Girinis]

Hello, especially to Tiamat. I know this can happen as it used to happen to me when I was younger. My mother an I used to have the same dreams constantly. It only happens to me when I am very close to someone (or about to be) but I am not really one to share my dreams with people often. As being immoral... I also don't think it is. It was not necessarily something you aim for. Also, if you were to invade on purpose, chances are you would be more lost than the dreamer! (Note how the participants were active in the dreaming process rather than observers?)

[leila]

my x bf and i used to have same dreams sometimes. not all the time. but once when i woke up i was talking to him about how he was in my dream and started describing what was happening, and he finished my sentance! he remembered all of it, exactly the same.

[oreides]

wow! yes i have actually had an increase in mutual dreams since i made this thread

[Anomalia Zelta]

Well I know that there are different kinds and I am not sure if you are talking about encountering someone else in your dreams or you and someone else having the same dream...I think the former and not the latter. If so I wrote a bit about this in the cosmic assignments thread. If you are interested

[Amethyst]

I remember, one time years ago, when me and sis were asleep in a country cottage in Wales. We were having a physical conversation with each other while we were both sleeping! Mum said she just was amazed as she was observing this...I remember saying to her, "should we get up and go out" and she said, "yes" and we both got up out of bed and sleep walked to the door, but the door was locked, so we were trying to get an unlocked door open in our sleep, lol.

Me and mum have had some dreams the same night that were the same...

I'm sure I have met people in my dreams/travels sometimes, I don't plan it...just happens.