" wrote:I feel it is both. Why should it be one or the other. You could have a genetic chemical imbalance and not be able to "buck up" and you could be experiencing frustration from your outside circumstances. It could also be a vicious cycle of bad luck, bad attitude, and bad genes.
I was given the definition of depression as being anger turned inward.
Once I stopped trying to please everybody else and started to follow my own desires the depression lifted a little. As I learned how to keep and hold personal boundaries the depression became a tool for me. It became an indicator of what areas of my life I needed to change.
I still have bouts of chemical depression. So, I recognize they have no real basis and I just ride them out, rest and focus on doing things that nurture my happiness.
Oh, this post is getting too long, sorry.
You may be right but I am inclined to ultimately disagree, at least I must say a strong willed and disciplined person does not have to subject themselves to the "natural" reactions of the body.
Like if I was just walking and someone came up from behind me and then slapped me in the face and was looking angry at me. Naturally my body wants to get into fight or flight mode, my body wants to begin pumping adrenaline through my body in anticipation of the fight and so I can feel these chemicals inside of me and depending on whether I was the kind of guy that would run or fight, I would either get scared or angry.
But the choice to get angry, like I would in that situation, would have been a mental DECISION, one that after I choose would have OPENED THE FLOODGATES of chemicals to enter into my body for the fight.
But a person who has practiced the "turn the other cheek" policy throughout their life, therefore gaining discipline in this regard, would be able to stiffle their anger and act rightly.
So you may be right, the chemicals do sort of help us along feeling whatever we are going to feel, but I think that self mastery can and would overcome that natural reaction stage and decide what to do from the stimuli. As we lose our egos, our programmed selves, and stop labeling everything right away, we can get slapped in the face and decide whether or not to enjoy it. Perhaps it has been a while since something surprising and dynamic happened to you, the slap was then a good thing.
Then you could talk to the guy and thank him for slapping you as you haven't been more awake the entire week!
Discipline has nothing to do with intelligence so I do not wish to insult anyone who feels their emotions carrying them away on the slightest of whims. Self mastery is a biznatch, but ultimately necessary to reach our goals.