You know, you'd think that adults get it by now.
That kids are not stupid.
Even with older indigos &other spirtually inclined people
they still insist on treating myself and others like we dont know anthing
because we are not as 'high' as them.
Bah.
They have NO idea.
sorry, needed somewhere to vent that.
has anyone dealt with this problem before??
Hey,you sound just like me!You should have seen the look on my counsilers face when I began to go into advanced phycology on her!Reversing all of her little mind tricks.I think I may have unintentially scared her for life.lol.As for other indigos treating you as young...i wouldn't worry about it here too much.We here have a great respect for one another.At least I do any way.My advice,though,don't feed into it.You are better than them.You are older than them,if only in spirit.You my friend,are an indigo.Embrace that thought,and a well of previously unatainable knowlage will come your way.It's just a matter if you can see it.Originally Posted by warrior spirit
Life is boundless...our hearts and souls hold no constraints.
Ahhh yes... Adults... Yick...
I think that just about sums up my opinions on that subject...
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The ones whoare older here on earth,you should feel no comtempt for.They are but learning,and in time will fear those with the label of child.For they will bring upon them a change that cannot be undone,as has been set aforth ny the divines.Whomever you may believe them to be.Ahhh yes... Adults... Yick...
I think that just about sums up my opinions on that subject...
Life is boundless...our hearts and souls hold no constraints.
I just hate the patronizing.
The selectivly deaf ears that all adults seem to own.
Ah well.
Their loss really.
It is their loss.They miss out on an oppertunity to see things more brighty.To learn.But no.That foolish self pride.That impenitrable barirar of"i'm perfect".It's so syical.So pathentic.So distrusting.I wish they would just see this.Holding those to such low essteme is pointless!I speek froom expirienc and am no saying all adaults are like this,just a greater majority of them.
Life is boundless...our hearts and souls hold no constraints.
I was never really treated this way, well because I usually tower over adults. Being tall gave me the advantage of even having a powerful presence in front of those older, and wiser than me.
I bet you can still do it without intimidating height though. You just have to present yourself to have confidence, and be able to show that you are indeed worth while to be deemed "worthy" in their eyes.
Yeah, oh, believe me.
Adults get no power trips whilst Im around.
Im far too verbally gifted.
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My dear friend,that's just it. They refuse to see us as "worthy". I believe that this may be one reason we indigos are here. To change this. The voice of the child will one day be heard. Hopfully it's soon.
Life is boundless...our hearts and souls hold no constraints.
Well, um, they expect you to cower beneath them... Like my maths teahcer... yick...
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Dear torchbearer, I see you keep having a sense of indigos being "better". I must say you are not better then even my cat, and you are certainly not better then other adults or even your parents!
Learn to respect them as you want them to respect you, even if they don't. My parents still think of me as a child, even though I'm away from home for 5 years and take care of myself. Do not judge that! I still respect them because respect is not something you earn, it's a basic human right.
Respect is the objective and imparcial consideration for another person's rights, values and beliefs. This is one of the most HIGHLY values of a master! I can't stress this enough! Respecting another person means respecting their free will. Free will is another HIGH value of a master! Humans ARE masters, not just indigos. If you believe so, keep digging, because you're missing the bigger picture. There's something about indigos, that's right, but until you have that bigger picture, please don't make assumptions.
Too many people make judgements with insuficient information. Every time you step on judgement, you're comming out of fear, and not from love. Judgement is the process on which illusions, but not knowledge rests. That is not the Indigo way. Someone wise said the following...
Please, be compassionate and respect other humans with love and acceptance. If your parents treat you as a child, chalange them in a healthy way, but please do not judge anyone. Consider that if you do, it's your hurten ego, seeking confort and security. Don't force them to be something you highly believe in. They must make that choice on their own. Don't rape their consciousnesses, even if you think it's for the "higher good".When you let your false ego control your mind, Judgement creeps into your life. Only your false ego judges, love does not judge for love knows nothing of judgement. Judgement is your false ego competing for position and you tend to label everything as good or bad. The intent of a person who judges is to make themselves believe that they are above judgement. Through judgement a person will greatly limit their perception of life and you will lose your childlike qualities that allow you to grow spiritually.
Judgement creates fear, hatred, guilt, jealously, and contempt. The consequence of judgement is immediate separation from that which you have judged. When you judge you also separate yourself from Mother and Father God because that which you have judged is a part of them. Judgement is the one thing that will damage your soul and take you from light to darkness. As you move from light to darkness your false ego gains more control which is the sole intent of judgement.
This is why you must let your soul control your heart and your mind, for the soul knows the love that you are. The love that you are knows nothing of judgement for love does not judge. Your soul is connected to Mother and Father God and it knows that everything they created has a purpose. Your soul knows that we should honor, respect, and have acts of kindness for all of Mother and Father God's creations. Through acts of honor, respect, and kindness judgement will perish. When judgement ceases then and only then will we have Heaven here on Earth. Your last judgement must be against judgement itself.
Through forgiveness, mercy, and knowing the love that you are will you be able to overcome judgement. Your false ego will not allow you to forgive and this is why you must let your soul control your heart and your mind. By practicing forgiveness and mercy you will grow spiritually and become more blessed. Although you may not like a person's actions you must learn to forgive and have mercy for their soul.
I can't tell you what to do, but I believe you want to follow this path. I know you are a beatiful and perfect being (just like your parents). You just need to be aware of these things for you to have the power to change them.
If you do fall on judgement, don't feel guilty. This reply is not for you to feel guilty whatsoever, only a hope for you to see things more clearly and become aware. Awareness brings power to focus. This also means responsibility. Responsibility for your thoughts and your life.
If you can perceive darkness, then you have darkness in you. If you perceive "lesser" parents, then somewhere within yourself, you feel that same way against you!
Find an higher perspective. Find the bigger picture. You'll find perfection, even your 'broken' parents. If you don't see perfection and beauty, you're not seeing the truth. This is not just cool words, you're really perceive it this way!! Believe me!
This is not just for torchbearer, but to anyone who are making judgements here. Become aware of this, and you can change it. Now this is the Indigo way. Be compassionate, and be kinder then necessary, because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.
This is also a test for you (parents), my dear indigo friends. You too have much to remember!
Also, you being an indigo, doesn't mean you're older spiritually then your parents. You underestimate these souls. Seek the bigger picture. Join the peaces of the puzzle. What you find, will enlighten you.
Peace and Love to all!
I love ALL humanity beyond recognition.
What we need is more people who specialize in the impossible
"To love for the sake of being loved is human, but to love for the sake of loving is Angelic." ~Alphonse de Lamartine
"The quality of the love you receive mirrors the value you place on yourself." ~Plejaren
Nobody can control you or make you feel inferior without your consent.
I have to deal with this many times with my parents, warrior spirit, so I know what I speak. They can be pretty darn insulting sometimes, specially my father.
Be compassionate and forgiving. Also have LOTS of patience (you'll need it) and seek understanding, instead of judgement. Better understanding will make you a better teacher. Being the wise one, know when to give space and when to challenge. Challenge in a place comming from love, not out of hatred. It helps them to ask questions to themselves and seek inside for answers. It helps me when I think about what they can learn, so I focus on learning. Most of the times they don't learn anything, but I get to see that deep down they are trying. I don't force, I just set an example and speak my truth (live in integrity, speak what you believe).
Find your place in your own family. This may be a physical space. When I'm with them this place is my room and the Internet. My education was mainly myself with my book, the Internet. To you, it can be whatever feels best for you. Just a place you can go inside. Keep in contact with other like minded people (that's what you're doing here), but do NOT create elites.
There are many ways you can learn to deal with your parents. Fortunately I always knew what to do in any given situation. Also learn a lot and bettered myself in the process. You basicaly need to handle your emotions, be calm and access your inner wisdom. The more you'll remember about how to live in guidance by the soul/heart (instead of the mind/ego), the more you'll be wise in any given situation.
So there's also knowledge you have to seek. Questions. Wisdom is the discernment of knowledge, so if you don't have knowledge, you can't be wise. Wisdom comes from knowledge and experience.
I know you're not new at this, but I hope I can give you other insights, or another perspective on how to deal with what you have.
In Lak'ech (Mayan for: I AM another you!)
Your parents are another you. Whatever you can perceive in them, you have it you yourself.
Much love,
Helder
What we need is more people who specialize in the impossible
"To love for the sake of being loved is human, but to love for the sake of loving is Angelic." ~Alphonse de Lamartine
"The quality of the love you receive mirrors the value you place on yourself." ~Plejaren
Nobody can control you or make you feel inferior without your consent.
Thank you for your post, Prometheus!! I very much agree with all that that you just said--but left the lines I thought most important.
I know that the lashing out at adults is not necessarily directed at adults such as myself-- for if you heard my whole story I am most certain that you would not consider me a typical adult. I am quite immature...yet quite mature... depending on what you are looking at.
Yet I sit here at 27 years old... having passed such harsh judgements on my parents. Blaming them for all that has gone wrong in my life (and believe me, they had a large part to play in the drama that unfolded in my young life).
Now I realize...looking back... that my parents are way more gifted (spiritually) than I had consciousness to give them credit for. If it were not for them, I would not be here.
All I have to say to all of you "teen indigos" is:
PLEASE... be grateful for your parents, cause you never know when the time will come for your parents to leave your lives.
My father just recently died from his drug addiction... my whole life, I blamed him for my failures. Most "psychologists" would agree that I was right in doing so... but does it really matter now that he is gone??
The answer is NO!!
Be grateful for the adults (elders... heh HELDER) in your life. They are here to teach you; even though the lessons may be painful for you to learn.
BTW; I do not believe myself Indigo; but Crystal--or Crystal/Indigo. I have had seven past lives on this earth... whatever that means. I am an incarnate from the faery realm--if that means anything to you. That is where my father is now, and where he is awaiting my return (upon my passing).
The universe is so beautiful...if you are to allow yourselves to experience the beauty that is available to you in this very moment... the ecstacy
You do not realize the beauty available by just experiencing this moment
Here you are alive... feeling... experiencing...
emotions... love... happiness...
sadness, betrayal, loss... all of these are illusions that keep us separate from the Creator
The Creator desires only for us to experience unity, joy, happiness, LOVE
All negative feelings and emotions were created by HUMANS
This is the POLARITY of existance in the earthly realms
POLARITY is an illusion which keeps us separate from the CREATOR
CREATOR is the GOD FORCE which is responsible for the existance of our UNIVERSE!!!!
REMEMBER:
LOVE IS THE ONLY REALITY!!!!
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Very well said Sunsolei
These things are so obvious to me that it becomes hard to lay it down in a linear way! I must be selective and do it by parts.
Btw, when you say you believe you're not an indigo but a crystal, for simplicity, all these names are indigo (because it was the first). Then we have variants of the term: crystal, rainbow, superpsychic, violet, blue, etc...
This makes it easier to just say indigo, on the core issues, and the variants in their specificity.
I also blamed my parents for a lot of stuff, but I found out I was putting my responsibility on their doorstep. They didn't take my trash out, and it was stinking!
So I took responsibility for my life, because I now knew everything that happened to me was my responsibility... a choice I made. Even at the most negative situations, I knew I was making unconscious agreements with these people in order to learn the lessons I needed to learn, and attract the ones that would also have something to learn on the other side of this polarity, making it a win/win situation everytime.
Absolutely everyting that happens to you is your responsibility.
Respect, responsibility, understanding, gratitude, compassion, and love.
What we need is more people who specialize in the impossible
"To love for the sake of being loved is human, but to love for the sake of loving is Angelic." ~Alphonse de Lamartine
"The quality of the love you receive mirrors the value you place on yourself." ~Plejaren
Nobody can control you or make you feel inferior without your consent.
You people never cease to misuderstand me! When I said one one better I simply met:who puts down who.It's hard for me to res[ect the people that hinder me.I know,you'll give me some uber special reason why not to think like that,but you havn't been what i've been through.That hurt from my past doesn't want to go away.And i can't make it.I don't get over things like everybody else.
I am differnet in that way.Human beings in my opinion are pathetic! Look at the situation they've got us into. We are almost at war with korrea. Our president falsly wants to help others,(like raping a lands people and way of life is helping)Claiming so much that is untrue. I'll tell you why too.Power,and greed. That's what drives people.It sickens me to no end.There false likingness.Their overconfidence and constance prejudice.
At least I have proof to back up my claims! They don't.They are fools.They would shun me,hate me.All for the simple reason of because they can.This indigo thing is gonna have to get ALOT stronger.Or nobody stands a chance at a better earth.We could try forever to pull together,but once again,the foolishness of others will destroy everything we work for. In my life i've learned never to trust people.Not even my friends, or family.People never pull through.They want only what they want.Never caring for others.
This is why I once attempted suicide.This is why I felt I had no future.I realized somthing.It's a hopless fight.I still don't know why I fight for this thing today.Maybe somwhere deep down inside me,I think this thing.This one thing,for the first time in my life,will turn out good.My good side has been stretched thin latly.
I apologive if I offended anybody by expressing these thoughts.I truly am.It's just that so much has happend to me.I feel so alone.Even with the community.2012 may bring a new age of enlightment.Or,it could bring damnation.Hatred.Even more scorn.Nobody can say that they truly know.We don't.We can only hope,but I see no reason to pray.These thoughts way on me heavily.
I know I am an indigo,but don't always think like one.I feel different,even from my own kin.It's strange.Almost like it wasn't my choice to be here,to do this.But in another way I feel I must be here.I feel the world we need me.I feel I will serve some great purpose.But still have that feeling of contempt tword mankind.I don't embrace them with the love I should.I don't see them as being a whole of me.Love is a misshape.A duality.And nothing much more than a word tpo me right now.
I have felt love,but always have it taken from me.All things I protect.Like a sick game the divines play upon me.Is it that they punish me for being who I am?For saying the things I say?I know I sound like such a negative person.But I am not.I only feel the emotions of those around me...almost like I don't have my own,at times.I came here to learn,and I learned what a simple happy thought can lead to.A mass following of a single cause.A revolution.I must part from the society temporarily,to get clear my mind of the hatred that is brewing within it.I feel that in my current state I might hurt others,emotionly.I feel so over sensitive.So hurt myself.But I don't know why.
Perhaps in a few weeks,days,months,I can get my minnd back together.And continue helping this society.Until then I bid you a temporary goodnye.Please,when I come back,don't hold the words I spoke here today against me.As I said,I need to get myself back on track.To regroup and reform my mind.Goodbye fellow indigos,and those alike,speek with you again soon.Should my account nor be terminated for somwhat negetive things i've said.
Life is boundless...our hearts and souls hold no constraints.
Indigos are one, but we're not the same.
Why yes, I did just twist a U2 lyric.
Aint I clever?
:]
Please torchbearer!! Many things you are saying are right, and therefore have just cause...
I hope you do not feel alone.
I too, attempted suicide several times at ages 17-18. At 17 I overdosed on pills; had my stomach pumped and catheter inserted (hurts badly), spent several days in ICU then sent to adolescent mental ward.
In the adolescent ward I was put on Ritalin, then Adderall. They said I was abusing cocaine/speed cause I had ADHD and was attempting to self medicate.
I was pulled off the Adderall by another doctor who said I was bipolar, and the Adderall was fueling my bipolar disorder. Several weeks after being dx'ed bipolar (and put on anti-psychotic meds aka Depakote/Ativan) I started working at a strip club. Grandparents found out and had police escort me out of the house... cause they said I was trash and was not to "desecrate" their property.
After 4+++ weeks of living on the streets; being raped one time; desecrated another time... I took over 80 125mcg Syntheroid pills; which should have put me in cardiac arrest. I decided against wanting to die at that moment; the gas station did not have epicac (stuff to make you throw up); and I refused to go to ER b/c I know how much it hurts to have stomach pumped.
Instead I went to the club. Ate 10+ tabs of ecstacy. Stayed up for 10 days on ecstacy, acid, and crystal meth. But, I did not die. Met a guy from Columbia who took care of me for those ten days.
He could not understand why I had seizures in my sleep. I didn't either.
I hated my parents. My family. They fucked me. But, I can't say that I hate them now.
Things have changed. I have grown up.
No, it isn't my fault that I saw the things I saw growing up.
It isn't my fault that I witnessed what I did.
But, I have love in my heart for my family... cause their only intention was to love me. Yes, they made some mistakes along the way... but, who's perfect, right??
Not trying to patronize you, not at all.
Just want you to understand, that when they are gone, they are gone...
And that's it. You won't understand until they die... how special it is to have them around
Even when they are assholes to you... they are special in their own f*cked up sort of way
So try to see that "special-ness" in them
The world isn't gonna change any time soon (unless we change)
We have got to change ourselves and the ways in which we view people
We have got to be more loving; and more understanding....
And that's all there is to it
In my eyes (right now)
Very well said Sunsolei
Btw, when you say you believe you're not an indigo but a crystal, for simplicity, all these names are indigo (because it was the first). Then we have variants of the term: crystal, rainbow, superpsychic, violet, blue, etc...
This makes it easier to just say indigo, on the core issues, and the variants in their specificity.
Yes, I feel on many issues...
Indigo=Crystal=Rainbow
Its all really the same. It depends where you are in your evolution.
But, I have gone through the "Indigo" warrior stage and feel as though it has washed through me. Now I am much more sensitive and receptive; where as before I was not... The "Crystal" traits describe me 95% now where as last year I was maybe 60% "Crystal." But, I am 27 and natural for me to evolve; at least I hope so.
When I get the chance, I will post my "Indigo Story" that I posted on Indigo Nation many moons ago. It describes events in my life that undoubtedly made me realize that I was not just an "average joe" walking this Earth.
This is not to say that I am better. No. But different? YES. Very different. I am sure we can all agree... that we are DIFFERENT. And that is why we are on this board, trying to change the world.
Because we care.
Not to say that others don't. Just that we care enough to make it our life purpose to change things.
This is why WE are so DIFFERENT (IMHO)
Maybe you agree, no?!
Many Blessings,
Sunsolei Aria
Thank you so much for these word of incouragment sunsolei.After but a few hours of soul serching,I have found myself.Words like are what keep me ging.They help me remember that I am not alone.That we all are nterconnected.That evrybody does matter.That love,is,the only thing in the big wide universe that can mend all wounds.This movment,this revolution,is why I am here.I feel this so very deeply.Our world is whole,a single entity,always trying to reconnect itself to become a complete,perfect being.As many have said"light and love",I wish you well.
Life is boundless...our hearts and souls hold no constraints.
I am sorry to sound so harsh in my responses~
In truth, when I am writing, I allow my feelings associated with my experiences to wash over me as I write
So, if it seems as though I am really upset, angry, or sad...
Chances are, I am just feeling the energy associated with a particular thought or idea
Normally, these feelings just wash over me, they do not cling
Having Leo as my rising sign (tee hee) with an Aries sun-- well that gives me sort of a predisposition towards being a drama queen and a hard ass *lolz*
It doesn't mean that I don't mean what I am saying
Just that I don't mean to offend or chastize--and if I do, I am really sorry
Everything I have said is without judgement... just based on my wisdom of having gone through the "teen indigo crisis" and now dealing with "growing up"
I have learned to count my blessings and love my family
And never, ever take ANYBODY or ANYTHING for granted
This is mainly what I am trying to share
And also that, I do understand how annoying it is when adults treat you like a dumbass cause of your age...
Hate to say...but that hasn't changed for me
I still look 21, so most new age "people" in houston assume they have something to teach me and usually that I am a lost soul of some sort
It usually turns out that I am blazing ahead of them with Reiki Attunements, Astrology&Tarot knowledge, ETC
Not that its a competition
But I do think its funny when people assume that they know more than you just cause you are young
So in that respect.... I understand you perfectly
Remember that Jesus said to "show love and not judge"
I am not Christian, but try to make this a part of my daily practice.
I hope this makes sense to everyone
~*MANY BLESSINGS*~
*~*Sunsolei Aria*~*
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