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    Souls Of The Aborted ~ Wandering In The Astral World

    JUST OBSERVING I am not without sin. I came out in FAVOR of abortion back in the 1970's. I did so as a statement of personal freedom and personal responsibility - THE RIGHT OF CHOICE never dreaming that the masses would regard that right and that choice AS A MANDATE.

    Since then as a matter of convenience both marrieds and unmarrieds in our society have murdered millions upon millions of living children in the sanctity of The Womb - the most sacred place of God's creation. Murdered. Sometimes AT BIRTH (medically called Partial Birth Abortion).


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    So here is my question/observation; The souls of these aborted innocents have to go SOMEWHERE and I suspect it is probably with full innocence - into the Astral Plane. Perhaps to wander, perhaps to unite as a single Karmic force, perhaps to just "get in line" and wait for another body or perhaps to be given a choice of a different, less hostile world.

    With that, I will open this string to your respected opinions. Perhaps within the answers there may be tears and some release. More importantly I suspect there are going to be some clairvoyant experiences to report ---- and appreciate.
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    The souls of these aborted innocents have to go SOMEWHERE
    The souls go exactly wherever they want to go next. What makes you think that it wasn't a soul's choice to be aborted?

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    Well, I think that maybe it tries again. I mean, I believe that when we die, we are reborn into another body of our choosing. So, the unborn baby dies, the soul that was connected to it has to try again to be reborn.

    I'm pretty sure old and new souls do the same thing. They try to be reobrn again.

    I wonder if a soul prefers certain types of destiny. Like being an artist, a warrior, charismatic, powerful.
    The sound of eight hooves reaches his ears
    Comes from the heavenly light
    Two wolves' howls fill his heart with fear
    And he sees two ravens fly
    Down from the sky a warlord rides
    Like fire his one eye glows
    And just before the preacher dies
    He knows his god is false

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    Babies learn in a mothers stomach as well. Perhaps those babies choose to learn only those lessons...just like those babies that die naturally prior to being born. I believe everyone has the right to freedom of choice. Just because they are aborted doesn't necessarily mean the baby will go to the astral plane. Babies have no pre concieved ideas about religion or faith and therefore are unlikely to be afraid of passing over. All babies want is someone to nuture and love them. Thats what the angels and loved one's that have already passed over provide. Anyway that's just my thoughts!

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    my mother had a boy who was aborted - would have been my older brother but turns out I am the oldest now. I feel like he is still with me sometimes - perhaps in spirit as a guide ?
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    I unfortunately decided to end a pregnancy years ago. That decision haunted me and drove me nearly insane... literally. For me personally, I felt that I had paid someone to murder my child. When I was in the clinic, I was able to dismiss this life as a scientific process. But immediately after the deed was done, I realized I was wrong.

    I went through extreme depression... even went so far as to attempt to kill myself. I ended up taking massive doses of psychiatric pills for about a year to become "normal" again. I stopped the meds when I found out I was pregnant again a year after the abortion.

    Although I am still disgusted by my decision in regards to my first pregnancy, I realize now that I needed that cirmcumstance to grow and advance through my life's journey. My son is now 5 years old. He is the greatest gift. I don't know if I'd be the mom I am today if I didn't go through that. It sparked the spiritual fire within me. I thank that baby who I never gave a chance. Who knows? Maybe we had a contract before I was born that it would happen this way for me to learn whatever I needed to learn? Maybe my son is that child. I probably will not find the answer in this lifetime.

    On occassion, I see/hear/feel a small child following me... looks exactly like my son. One day a few years ago, my son and I were at the store and he abruptly stopped walking. I asked him what was wrong and he said "we need to wait for my brother to catch up." Gave me goosebumps since he's my only living child. It also comforted me because since I had that abortion in 2000, I have longed for that child I didn't get the opportunity to love.

    Abortion is not a form of birth control. It is not a decision to take lightly. I make no judgements on those who are for it. I simply ask that everyone respect life...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine View Post
    The souls go exactly wherever they want to go next. What makes you think that it wasn't a soul's choice to be aborted?
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    I agree with Sunshine but I do know this is not always the case.

    I met a child in spirit who was aborted and she came to me very sad because she wanted to be born so much and it was her parents free-will that stopped her birth.

    Also a child that was aborted ( such a horrible word ) but came to the same parents a year later.

    Every case is individual, I dont see it as murder as it is flesh that is taken not the soul and the soul will advance regardless, but the experience to be had in this vehicle is quite an honour and also quite different to the experience without body.

    I believe that alot of planning goes into each pregnancy on a level, contracts, choosing of parents, etc -I dont disagree with abortion at all, there seems to be a much bigger picture than to judge weather someone has the right to abort their foetus or not. Life is precious but so are the lessons we learn from our experiences- positive or negetive.

    I feel the decision to abort should not be taken lightly though

    Like you i have seen a aborted child spirit of who's i dont know, i could take aguess but i dont know if it was the person or not, but it jus kept saying it wanted its mommy.

    I think it was a very late abortion, but its only a guess.

    I dont think it is wrong to abort as long as the reasons for aborting is justified, and it isnt used as a form of contraception.

    Anyhow i think that the spirits wont have been in the body very long so they quickly find another or maybe hang around a little bit.

    Its strange, that pregnant women do seem to have alot of paranormal happenings when they are pregnant...I dont know what causes it but i am guessing, in a way like it is said that spirit of a persons ancestor's come to collect you when you die (and yes i have had experience of this, so why i mentioned it) Maybe they see you off to your new body aswell?...

    Just a thought, it might explain the paranormal goings on?

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    I may appear all fucked up on this one.

    I feel freedom of choice is the most important, personally I am against abortion; which is not an act I could be part of.

    Each soul comes into this plane fully "briefed" on their "contract". As I read above, it is also my position that the soul is not terminated by the abortion, only the physical (suit of clothes). Not judging here, but some of these aborted souls may be serving a Karmic debt, others purely the experience or perhaps a change of interest in living on this plane, like many SIDS

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    Zactly. And this is why things such as "insect rights" are not so clean cut and dry. Who are YOU to know an insect's path or an aborted baby's path?

    (I know, I know..everyone thinks they know everything and it's either their way or the highway...and that's just life)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonBeing View Post
    Murderd?

    Wow I cannot bealive people would actualy say things like that? Murder?

    Trully, I personly find those sorts of comments and views ... well I dont know the word, it actualy makes me want to sort of vomit. to me I am sorry but to me those comments can be so harmfull ,and are totaly fearbased.

    In my view,, you cant kill a soul.

    And why do people think becasue a soul chooses to incarnate, that the soul is like a baby? I mean to me its silly. sure some souls and also higher beings appear as children, but I mean come on souls are eternal. and all the souls that are incarnateing now are very evolved.

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    I just want to make it clear that my post was what I, yes ME, felt about MY personal experience and not that I believe everyone who has an abortion is a murderer. I am a perfectionist and therefore extremely hard on myself... hence the reason I used such a strong and negative word to describe my ordeal.

    I agree with you that you cannot kill a soul. I have no judgements on other people who decide to have abortions. I choose to not insert myself into other people's decision making process. It seems my post was misunderstood. I was simply sharing what I went through and that, although I originally felt such negative feelings regarding my personal decision, good came from it and that we should remember that even negative experiences often lead to the greater good and usually spiritual growth. I definitely don't want to be labeled the narrow minded lady who stands outside the clinic with a sign screaming at each person who enters or exits the clinic doors that they will burn in hell for all eternity. My only opinion regarding abortion is that it should NOT be used as a form of contraception. I know several females who have had more than 5 abortions each because they couldn't be bothered to take the pill or go to their doctor to get the depo shot. Now that... uhmmm, no comment on that.


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    Murder By Any Other Name.......

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonBeing View Post
    Murderd?

    Wow I cannot bealive people would actualy say things like that? Murder?

    Trully, I personly find those sorts of comments and views ... well I dont know the word, it actualy makes me want to sort of vomit. to me I am sorry but to me those comments can be so harmfull ,and are totaly fearbased.

    In my view,, you cant kill a soul.

    And why do people think becasue a soul chooses to incarnate, that the soul is like a baby? I mean to me its silly. sure some souls and also higher beings appear as children, but I mean come on souls are eternal. and all the souls that are incarnateing now are very evolved.

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    I too was involved in an abortion way back BEFORE it was legalized so, I am not without sin, as I said in my opening post.

    The performance of abortions involves at the very least, scraping a fertilized egg from the wall of the ovum, usually within weeks of the conception. That includes eyes, hands, head, feet and umbilical cord.

    At the latest stages (partial birth abortion) I understand the head is severed before the rest of the body is extracted and all is disposed of as medical waste.

    Excuse me - but if that is not Murder, what exactly is that?


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