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    Are Asian spirits and native american spirits two seperate entities?

    Native american believes in other belief, they are the music of the earth, the harmonies balance, asian spirits, i feel asian spirits are from somewhere else.
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    You mean like the Anime Spirited Away? Great movie...his stuff like Castle in the Sky and Neo-Genesis Evengelican (sp) are amazing....lots of symbolism in all of his works.

    But imo Native American and Asian spirits are one in the same. To me all spirits are really the same things...just like Angels and Et's are also just spirits as well. I just believe that every spirit has a different goal s to speak...a different contract that they must fulfill that is why they take different forms so to speak in able to accomplish what they must.
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    ya I think the spirit is really the same for anyone, the blood however is a different matter. I read somewhere that Asians are decendants of the hitites from the bible.
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    Anyone ever read anything by Charles DeLint? His fantasy novels have a very similar premise.

    “What if you slept? And what if, in your sleep, you went to heaven and there plucked a strange and beautiful flower? And what if,when you awoke,you had the flower in your hand? Ah, what then?”
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    Quote Originally Posted by desire knowledge View Post
    You mean like the Anime Spirited Away? Great movie...his stuff like Castle in the Sky and Neo-Genesis Evengelican (sp) are amazing....lots of symbolism in all of his works.
    Spirited Away is good, I have only seen parts of it, but I liked what I saw and have only heard good things from other people. I think i will watch the whole thing.

    But Hideaki Anno directed Neon Genesis Evangelion (amazing anime, yes I know, I say this all the time, just watch it you will see!)

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    perhaps this is more to do with the keys they hold

    Asians are the masters of air or breathe, Indians the masters of earth. So that leaves fire, water.. where do those two fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patryc View Post
    perhaps this is more to do with the keys they hold

    Asians are the masters of air or breathe, Indians the masters of earth. So that leaves fire, water.. where do those two fit.
    hmm interesting, I remember reading about the 4 peoples and the correspondence to the 4 cardinal directions (do they correspond? I thought so but I just googled and what I found at first glance may be different) , but I was just recently wondering about the connection to the 4 elements.

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    grins

    and then there is the avatar

    the one who masters all 4

    the catalyst that unites all nations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patryc View Post
    grins

    and then there is the avatar

    the one who masters all 4

    the catalyst that unites all nations

    YouTube - Avatar - Series Finale Trailer
    hehe, since I was very young I was obsessed with the 4 elements, I used to dream/pray/wish that I could do what they do in that show, strangely enough I have never watched that much of it. Except when I was at my old job, I would sit and watch it with the siblings of kids playing soccer games.

    fire is my element though
    I have always wanted to be able to manipulate it like that, I used to be so sure I could or that I used to be able to... just have to know it completely, suppressed that thought as I got older

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    ya I have a strong bond to fire too, fire and some of earth also being a cusp - I loooooove bonfires

    I am learning air from falun dafa and the prayanama

    still working on water although I do drink a lot of it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patryc View Post
    ya I have a strong bond to fire too, fire and some of earth also being a cusp - I loooooove bonfires

    I am learning air from falun dafa and the prayanama

    still working on water although I do drink a lot of it..
    hehe

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    I must be earth, i have a strong bond with animals ans all the elements of earth, really i have a strong bond with all the 4 elements, because i found out that i was either a Native american spirit, a native american spiritual leader, because i was envoked among my people. i think of all earth things beautiful, i just justified it by someone. first i was indenial but then i decern my ignorance, and i communicate with native american spirits in my sleep, ao hthat also justifies it, we talk about soul tranformation, mor like transporation..lol and guidance.
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    grins, one of my past lives I was a Native American shaman in a Hopi Tribe. Thanks for starting up this thread btw.

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    yeah no problem

    i have lots more threads to make

    the thing is that i levitating above a group of Native Indians, it was like a brief scene, and it felt like i was evoked in a ceremony, the weird thing was that the elder in red garment was looking up at me as all the other ones were looking at the elder, can you recall anything like that?

    Hopi is a very important culture, especially blue star prophecies, they interest me, something with extraterestrial beings of some sort. Hopi tribe leader great we have at least some thing in common.
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    just always remember, that GOD never gives us to much we couldnt handle.

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    I don't remember many details of the past lives just what I was, I have never really gone into a full regression hypnosis to retrieve full info. I just have flashes of them sometimes. Sometimes when I meet people with soul fragments or people who are from past lives and are soul mates a vision will come back to me of a few scenes that were emotionally impacting at the time of that prior life.
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    This is hard for me to discuss, because although I see subtleties and nuances
    I do not know the pattern.

    In the old country, there are many little entities. Gnomes, brownies, etc.

    In America there are many spirits.

    In Tibet, there are many powerful entities.
    Snow giants battle in the mountain tops.

    I am not sure if folklore created these, or these created folklore,
    however they sure feel different.

    I can only guess at why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desire knowledge View Post
    You mean like the Anime Spirited Away? Great movie...his stuff like Castle in the Sky and Neo-Genesis Evengelican (sp) are amazing....lots of symbolism in all of his works.

    But imo Native American and Asian spirits are one in the same. To me all spirits are really the same things...just like Angels and Et's are also just spirits as well. I just believe that every spirit has a different goal s to speak...a different contract that they must fulfill that is why they take different forms so to speak in able to accomplish what they must.
    oh my god i love movie spirited away and castle in the sky.. i mean it's beautiful... beautiful setting... and it makes me feel free....

    well technically native americans are asians... they migrated from asia anyway... well i think they are quite connected to each other...

    lol i'm asians myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred aus indo View Post
    oh my god i love movie spirited away and castle in the sky.. i mean it's beautiful... beautiful setting... and it makes me feel free....

    well technically native americans are asians... they migrated from asia anyway... well i think they are quite connected to each other...

    lol i'm asians myself
    um well i don't know about that, i don't know where you heard that from, isn't because they look similar to asian people, well not to be racist native american don't have anuthing in common with asians, not even the hair, they have curlish hair that flows in the wind, and skin that shines in the sun, and a imaginative mind that evokes spirits like me, among them, so are native americans technically asian? noooooooooo, they were always here, i don't have to say it, my people say it for themselves, and they are head strong about it to, i don't know where people continue to get there pre concieved notion, that native americans came from asia, just because americas right by asia, and to discredit my people from always being here so the white man won't feel so guilty for what thay did to my people. i had to get that off my chest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indi.feat View Post
    um well i don't know about that, i don't know where you heard that from, isn't because they look similar to asian people, well not to be racist native american don't have anuthing in common with asians, not even the hair, they have curlish hair that flows in the wind, and skin that shines in the sun, and a imaginative mind that evokes spirits like me, among them, so are native americans technically asian? noooooooooo, they were always here, i don't have to say it, my people say it for themselves, and they are head strong about it to, i don't know where people continue to get there pre concieved notion, that native americans came from asia, just because americas right by asia, and to discredit my people from always being here so the white man won't feel so guilty for what thay did to my people. i had to get that off my chest.
    Yes, scientist really have a fucked up view of the past.

    They think there was an ice age. When the ice lasted only a smattering of years.

    They think that we are the mostly technologically advanced civilization ever on earth.

    They think god will strike down those who oppose him, and call him omnipotent.

    They fall hook, line and sinker for that nonsense that man thought the world was flat. (the christian church came up with that one)

    They believe elves, Atlantis and Elvis sightings are merely things of imagination.

    They wouldn't know a nature spirit if it bit them in the ass.

    Take solace in the fact that they are little men with little minds who have closed themselves off from the real world so that their little minds and little rules-of-the-universe will not get broken upon the sharp rocks of reality.

    Enjoy

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    P.S. I empathize with your view on their ignorant attempt to rationalize their actions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indi.feat View Post
    Native american believes in other belief, they are the music of the earth, the harmonies balance, asian spirits, i feel asian spirits are from somewhere else.
    I believe all spirits are the same, even if they seem to do different things


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