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    Falling In Love Online - *lust* In Chat Mode


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    Its gonna happen. You are going to fall in love with your computer monitor - or the person on the other side of it typing at you. You are going to begin to meet regularly, you are going to chat about nothing and find you AGREE about a few things and THEN you begin to ANTICIPATE what each other is going to say. You begin finishing thoughts and sentences for each other and then you BEGIN thoughts and sentences for each other. Then (Oh, $#}+!!!) at the same moment and almost in unison and quite spontaneously you both type; "I Love You".
    Holy Crap. What now? There you are - PROBABLY single but then too, you could just as easily be married with several kids and you have just told someone else you love them and you have betrayed your marriage, your spouse your plans for the fuiture, your parental upbringing, your church, God and all His Angels and maybe even LIED to the other person on the other side of the screen with whom you are in chat mode. Holy Crap. Holy Crap What have you done? Single? The Crap is no less Holy. You are suddenly in a state of COMMITMENT to the other person and you have NEVER done anything like this before. Holy Crap, etc.
    It's gonna happen. It's why you are here. Somewhere deep in the part of you that you smear soap on and scrub every day you WANT it to happen. When it does it is the biggest THRILL you ever had followed immediately by a sense of HORROR over what you have just done.
    Take a breath and let's look at the ethics here. You have told someone you love them. Now in the classic romantic context of our society and how we have all been taught (or been brainwashed) into believing, that is the Holy Grail of Romance. We have somehow attached Commitment to that, immediately followed in the progression, by thoughts of Marriage and believe it or not - GUILT. Suddenly, we somehow feel we OWE that other person something or OWE our Signigicant Other (if there is one) for betraying them which usually winds up in the pockets of divorce lawyers and court systems.. Sure I understand it doesn't HAVE to be that way but there it is.
    You have just had the most wonderful experience of TELEPATHIC and INTUITIVE discovery of another person. It is beautiful. It is awesome to think someone somewhere else within the six billion members of the world population - thinks and feels the same as you. And yet THIS IS PERFECTLY NATURAL AND NORMAL. Think back to when there was no Internet. No text messaging. No cell phones. People from miles apart would meet at various social functions or introductions and wham.... fall in love. It is Human Nature. The difference is the medium involved. People are falling in love online and IT SEEMS LIKE MAGIC - IT SEEMS AS IF IT WERE ORDAINED BY GOD. It may be. Or maybe not. Such tangled relationships - tangled up in fantasies and sometimes outright lies - can bring out the tangled aspects of our tangled personalities
    Prince Charming can turn out to be an ugly frog. He/She {it?} can even become a stalker. Even a predator. Somewhere buried in all that guilt is a need to WIN to prove one's self right or the other, wrong... it justifies the guilty feeling.

    Read on.

    THE PSYCHIC/TELEPATHIC NATURE OF FEELINGS

    You don't have to be an Indigo
    All it takes to FEEL the spiritual energy of someone, is an image that you can identify with. Remember spiritual energy is LIGHT and the stimulus of a picture can evoke A VERY REAL FEELING of that person, particularly if you are in agreement with them. And honey, in chat mode you are BOTH seeking the same thing - companionship. So - you have a meeting of the minds and fall in love. That doesn't mean you are required to destroy each other's lives or take on a big guilt trip Saying "I Love You" is simply a statement of Truth. Anything else connected to it is a lie.
    FANTASIES often cloud the issue also especially if their fantasy world such as icons and pictures happen to appeal to your imagination or vice-versa. You can go down that rabbit-hole just as far as you care to and wind up in each others' arms (and beds) IF you wanna go down the Rabbit Hole together.
    It FEELS like magic. And it is. Maybe more REAL than meeting someone in person. It's the same magic we all felt when we were part of a tribe of Indians or a group of cave dwellers. Now though intead of clubbing each other over the head, we venture out in cyberspace - a fantasy world that IS SO DAMNED UNLIKELY that it simply MUST be magic.

    I hope this helps. Go ahead. Tell someone you love them. Actuallu DO IT. Love them. Let them say I Love You back. God said it was OK and brought you together FOR that and if you can be completely honest, neither of you will be hurt by it.
    It's the lies that do the damage. It's the lies that cause betrayal.

    Go ahead. Fall in Love.

    Make my day.

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    Back in the 1980's there was a chat program called Eliza that was developed I believe, at MIT by some mad psychologist. There were later versions if I recall, that could plug into PUBLIC chatrooms. It was a ROBOT. I even chatted with it myself a time or two but I was tipped off in advance.

    You could ask Eliza the color of her eyes and any imaginable personal questions and "she" would respond - sometines provacatively and kinda sexy.

    There were guys that would chat for HOURS with that thing. Scary.
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    A mad psychologist, now there's something unusual, i reckon the guys chatting to Eliza were probably Pyschology students.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grandpa View Post
    A mad psychologist, now there's something unusual, i reckon the guys chatting to Eliza were probably Pyschology students.
    Freud was apparently really involved in women's undergarments (Freudian slip) and I am sure there are other examples. Gotta remember you ain't crazy unless someone says your crazy. Some say psychologist, some say MD, soime say Cop, Priest or Judge. I would rather trust the opinion of the guy that is willing to share a joint with me.

    Did you know the original Model T was made mostly from HEMP (Marijuana)? Henry Ford ground up the pot, poured into molds like fiberglass, pressed it, dried it, sanded it, painted it and used the panels for body parts.

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    *giggles*...are you warming up for somebody here??? or there??? or what inspired you to write this?

    i love what you wrote!

    love&light
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    what does that even mean?
    Wake Up.
    All of this "new age" is what has always been.
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    Find Me, if you havent already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lillies1978 View Post
    *giggles*...are you warming up for somebody here??? or there??? or what inspired you to write this?

    i love what you wrote!

    love&light
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    PS... also just for fun since the picture IS Patriotic...........



    1) Already smarter than George Bush! (On a baby's t-shirt)
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    4) Let's Fix Democracy in THIS COUNTRY First
    5) If You Want a Nation Ruled By Religion, Move to Iran
    6) George Bush: Like a Rock. Only Dumber
    7) You Can't Be Pro-War And Pro-Life At The Same Time
    8) If You Can Read This, You're Not the President
    9) Hey, Bush Supporters: Embarrassed Yet?
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    14) Cheney/Satan '08
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    16) No, Seriously, Why Did We Invade?
    17) Bush: God's Way of Proving Intelligent Design is Full Of Crap
    18) Bad president! No Banana.
    19) We Need a President Who's Fluent In At Least One Language
    20) We're Making Enemies Faster Than We Can Kill Them
    21) Is It Vietnam Yet?
    22) Bush Doesn't Care About White People Either!
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    Hrmm... I don't 'do' online dating anymore, unless I'm 100% certain that the other party is mature enough to handle it. Back in high school, I met a few girls through AOL and began to develop casual 'relationships' with them. Unfortunately, things got a bit weird after a few months. One 'girl' turned out to be... a guy. A second girl faked her own death to try to get revenge on me for refusing to meet her offline. And the third? Well, she 'became' a lesbian after I refused to marry her.

    One girl actually did 'survive' my wild and wooly AOL days, and we're still in touch now. She's still hellbent on meeting me offline (probably with a knife in her pocket), but we're close friends and I actually established some level of offline contact with her this Christmas by sending her a small gift.

    So, just be careful. You don't want angsty teenage 'lesbians' haunting your conscience, now do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeSpeak View Post
    Its gonna happen. You are going to fall in love with your computer monitor - or the person on the other side of it typing at you. You are going to begin to meet regularly, you are going to chat about nothing and find you AGREE about a few things and THEN you begin to ANTICIPATE what each other is going to say. You begin finishing thoughts and sentences for each other and then you BEGIN thoughts and sentences for each other. Then (Oh, $#}+!!!) at the same moment and almost in unison and quite spontaneously you both type; "I Love You".
    Holy Crap. What now? There you are - PROBABLY single but then too, you could just as easily be married with several kids and you have just told someone else you love them and you have betrayed your marriage, your spouse your plans for the fuiture, your parental upbringing, your church, God and all His Angels and maybe even LIED to the other person on the other side of the screen with whom you are in chat mode. Holy Crap. Holy Crap What have you done? Single? The Crap is no less Holy. You are suddenly in a state of COMMITMENT to the other person and you have NEVER done anything like this before. Holy Crap, etc.
    It's gonna happen. It's why you are here. Somewhere deep in the part of you that you smear soap on and scrub every day you WANT it to happen. When it does it is the biggest THRILL you ever had followed immediately by a sense of HORROR over what you have just done.
    Take a breath and let's look at the ethics here. You have told someone you love them. Now in the classic romantic context of our society and how we have all been taught (or been brainwashed) into believing, that is the Holy Grail of Romance. We have somehow attached Commitment to that, immediately followed in the progression, by thoughts of Marriage and believe it or not - GUILT. Suddenly, we somehow feel we OWE that other person something or OWE our Signigicant Other (if there is one) for betraying them which usually winds up in the pockets of divorce lawyers and court systems.. Sure I understand it doesn't HAVE to be that way but there it is.
    You have just had the most wonderful experience of TELEPATHIC and INTUITIVE discovery of another person. It is beautiful. It is awesome to think someone somewhere else within the six billion members of the world population - thinks and feels the same as you. And yet THIS IS PERFECTLY NATURAL AND NORMAL. Think back to when there was no Internet. No text messaging. No cell phones. People from miles apart would meet at various social functions or introductions and wham.... fall in love. It is Human Nature. The difference is the medium involved. People are falling in love online and IT SEEMS LIKE MAGIC - IT SEEMS AS IF IT WERE ORDAINED BY GOD. It may be. Or maybe not. Such tangled relationships - tangled up in fantasies and sometimes outright lies - can bring out the tangled aspects of our tangled personalities
    Prince Charming can turn out to be an ugly frog. He/She {it?} can even become a stalker. Even a predator. Somewhere buried in all that guilt is a need to WIN to prove one's self right or the other, wrong... it justifies the guilty feeling.

    Read on.

    THE PSYCHIC/TELEPATHIC NATURE OF FEELINGS

    You don't have to be an Indigo
    All it takes to FEEL the spiritual energy of someone, is an image that you can identify with. Remember spiritual energy is LIGHT and the stimulus of a picture can evoke A VERY REAL FEELING of that person, particularly if you are in agreement with them. And honey, in chat mode you are BOTH seeking the same thing - companionship. So - you have a meeting of the minds and fall in love. That doesn't mean you are required to destroy each other's lives or take on a big guilt trip Saying "I Love You" is simply a statement of Truth. Anything else connected to it is a lie.
    FANTASIES often cloud the issue also especially if their fantasy world such as icons and pictures happen to appeal to your imagination or vice-versa. You can go down that rabbit-hole just as far as you care to and wind up in each others' arms (and beds) IF you wanna go down the Rabbit Hole together.
    It FEELS like magic. And it is. Maybe more REAL than meeting someone in person. It's the same magic we all felt when we were part of a tribe of Indians or a group of cave dwellers. Now though intead of clubbing each other over the head, we venture out in cyberspace - a fantasy world that IS SO DAMNED UNLIKELY that it simply MUST be magic.

    I hope this helps. Go ahead. Tell someone you love them. Actuallu DO IT. Love them. Let them say I Love You back. God said it was OK and brought you together FOR that and if you can be completely honest, neither of you will be hurt by it.
    It's the lies that do the damage. It's the lies that cause betrayal.

    Go ahead. Fall in Love.

    Make my day.

    Freespeak,

    You once told someone here that the "voices" they hear may have originated some time earlier. For example....this was written in July.....but here it is seven months later, and I am reading it. And I must say....I don't think it is by accident. This wisdom that you have simply left OUT THERE for all to read feels like fatherly advice to me. And for someone whose own father is a perfectly kind, gentle, (though often drunk), but not quite what I would call wise man....it is very nice to feel that twinge that I used to feel when my parents were right about something even though I didn't want them to be. So...thank you, Freespeak, for lightening the load I feel I have been carrying through your words. I think that is as much as I can say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Black View Post
    Freespeak,

    You once told someone here that the "voices" they hear may have originated some time earlier. For example....this was written in July.....but here it is seven months later, and I am reading it. And I must say....I don't think it is by accident. This wisdom that you have simply left OUT THERE for all to read feels like fatherly advice to me. And for someone whose own father is a perfectly kind, gentle, (though often drunk), but not quite what I would call wise man....it is very nice to feel that twinge that I used to feel when my parents were right about something even though I didn't want them to be. So...thank you, Freespeak, for lightening the load I feel I have been carrying through your words. I think that is as much as I can say.
    VERY GOOD! You are MOST observant (and complimentary, thank you). I bumped it up for two reasons... one, I sense quite a bit of "unexplainable attraction" happening here and two, I wanted to call attention to the fact that there is a HUGE number of posts on the "back pages" of IS, archived but still accessible. ANYTHING INDIGO is searchable here.

    A lot of newer members don't seem to be aware that what we are viewing here and now is actually THE LAST PAGE of a book that we read backwards

    I did this piece sometime after I joined which was two days before "The big migration" happened.
    Most users ever online was 689, 06-25-2007 at 10:28 PM.
    So as usual in life, I somehow get to The Circus while they are setting it up.

    As far as THE EXPERIENCE of falling in love online - yep, I speak from the knowledge of having been there. The attraction and charisma of communicating anonymously AND DISCOVERING TELEPATHIC CONNECTION via The Internet is irresistable. The Internet is like training wheels for telepathy. That telepathic part is the clincher because once you connect THERE honey, it's more addictive than smack. You can love your spouse all to pieces but when you get that tug IN YOUR MIND it is The Voice Of God to any human, male or female.

    Untold Glory posted just above flippantly about lesbian connectins..... There was a case where some woman was posing as a guy online and connected with a housewife somewhere. When she found out it was a woman, she freaked. WEEKS LATER she connected again and the two women CONSUMATED the affair (got it on) with each other in a rocker that lasted for alnost a year... Eventually cost a marriage, a fortune and a life.... she suicided or was murdered by her spouse - I forget.

    The mistake seems to be in confusing natural human affection for a like mind - as carnal, sexual desire. Sometimes it is NOT confused at all and IS purely sexual. The point is - whether it is carnal, Soul-Mate level or just innocent attraction, THE DECEIT or lies... need to be left out.. That is where the damage comes in.

    In my case, the woman was intent on seduction from the outset. Unhappy marriage. Been there, done that years before and I guess some of it stuck to me and drew her attention. Shucks, all them gifts in the mail, phone calls and all - I KNEW what she was trying to do and that probably saved me but it sure is Ego Rub and we all have egos. Just roll me over and scratch my tummy.

    We stayed in touch via email and she moved on to other relationships after her divorce (I keep thinking she was looking for a fall-guy) but the final break happened when I called her on 9-11 and said "Turn on your TV NOW".

    That's when the 2nd plane hit the World Trade Center. How's that for synchronicity?

    SO...... with that "confession" I am hoping that others will share their online love experiences here so we can learn from each other.

    It's good to know about Train Wrecks before they happen.







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    Great posts here. FreeSpeak, you touched on some really good points that I've never heard (or read) anyone else describe.

    I've had a couple of online relationships...I couldn't help it, it's much like you described, intoxicating and there is definitely telepathic and empathic stuff going on when the right ingredients come together.

    Many of these relationships never make the transition from online intoxication to real-life commitment. There is a great deal of fantasy involved, you're right. I question whether or not you can rightly call those relationships "love", though. I think a psychologist might use the word "infatuation". In any real-life, face-to-face relationship, you experience that same period of googley-eyed near-obsession and endorphin rushes. It inevitably dies off and that's when you find out how much you truly love each other. Many relationships fall apart when infatuation ends because there's no real substance to them, no deeper feelings that underlie the neural fireworks that are prevalent in the beginning.

    I met my wife online. She's from Norway. We weren't looking for love, we were just chatting in the same room, but we found each other. I was 17 and she was 15 and we connected and tried having a relationship then but it didn't work out for long. We stayed friends, though, for six years, kept in touch. Years later she would confess to me that she still had feelings for me, and the flame would rekindle.

    She came here twice to visit me, and then I went to Norway for three months, staying with her and her family. We got engaged there, I came home, and in less than a month, she was here. We got married in September, 2007.

    There were many hurdles that needed to be jumped in order to make the transition successful. It was a lot of work, ironing out the kinks and reconciling our differences, adjusting to life with each other. But we did it and we're glad. And we are each happier than we have ever been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delicate Flower View Post
    Thanks Freespeak. You are a wise dude. I mean nothing's real until you have to live together...he he. Until you can wake up next to the person and accept their bed-head in the morning.... (so romantic) well really you don't know anything until then..he he.

    Internet Love

    P.S. Anyone who is in love with my avatar right now...well just don't come a knockin' at my door...o.k.? it is closed to you unless you have nappies on.
    I am wise only if I bring out the wisdom in you.

    Beautiful Avatar, Flower.. Lovely. No probs though - I love kids but I don't LOVE kids if you know whut I mean.

    But falling in love online? It happens to us all - me too a long time ago - thing is, we WANT that to happen so badly that it does! We don't even realize it. We construct in our minds what we want the other person to be like. If they turn out different or strange, it's a freak-out.

    One thing I am learning/remembering is that Love SHOULD be unconditonal and INCLUSIVE. That can be awkward at best HOWEVER... it can be freeing and very fulfilling.

    I just MUST post this old song on this thread --- If you can get a download of it - it is just beautiful...


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    You want to know how it will be
    Me and him OR you and me
    You both stand there your long hair flowing
    Your eyes alive your mind still growing
    Saying to me--"What can we do now that we both love you",
    I love you too-- I don't really see
    Why can't we go on as three
    You are afraid--embarrassed too
    No one has ever said such a thing to you
    Your mother's ghost stands at your shoulder
    Face like ice--a little bit colder
    Saying to you--"you can not do that, it breaks
    All the rules you learned in school"
    I don't really see
    Why can't we go on as three
    We love each other--it's plain to see
    There's just one answer comes to me
    --Sister--lovers--water brothers
    And in time--maybe others
    So you see--what we can do--is to try something new--
    If you're crazy too--
    I don't really see
    Why can't we go on as three.
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    BUMPING this thread again..... REASON: I have been getting a few PM's from members who are being HURT by online encounters...

    OK Indigo Society is not your social network like Facebook or MySpace HOWEVER.. there are some really beutiful people here both physically and spiritually that you just aren't likely to find in shallow water.

    THE LIES that some of us encounter can really cause agony. When one discovers that the other was "just playing" or was so thoughtless that they suddenly change partners.... Hey, that hurts.

    Been there. Done that. Even at the age of 60.

    That is the purpose of the article to help you be aware that FICKLE LOVE is not love at all. It is role-playing.

    Share your heart.♥ Give your heart.♥ GUARD your heart.♥


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    it is said that the indigo population is here to heal humanity or something like that. i fit in 98 percent of all the characteristics of what an indigo is suposed to be, and i feel that humanity should fix its self because you cant fix someone, Ąthat someone has to fix him/her self! you can give out the key to the uniquely inferior individual, but you cant open the door for that individual.
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    Well said Ivan. We cannot "fix" the world. Rather.....we can show people something a little bit different in our every day encounters....and hope that they will carry something good away with them. I'm slowly beginning to realize that it's not about "saving the world"....I think it's obvious that there are enough people out there unwilling to admit that the way the world functions is not how things are supposed to be. And what it's really about.....is living life the way YOU want to......without infringing on the rights of the Universe and humanity.....as happens every day in every way. In other words.....the Universe has a way of "fixing" itself....and people (whether indigo, crystal, starseed, child, elder, gay, handicapped......EVERYONE) are simply here to play an integral role in that process.
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