I don't think so. You could do wonderful things with your life or you could do terrible things, but in the end not everyone wants to receive God's abundance and mercy. It really depends on the individual and what they want--and they must be sincere.Originally Posted by Visioneer
So the one who accepts God's abundance and mercy sincerly, is the one who will go to heaven...right?
Yes something like that. I believe that most people will be given a chance to witness the afterlife for themselves though before that choice is made. So in other words having questions about God, if he exists, etc, isn't going to be a strike against you.
I believe that we are in Hell because we made to looked like hell...but at the same time we are in Haven as well.... its up to us to make this rock haven.... a Supreme mind created all this, and its up to us to make the best out of it...we will comeback here time and time again...when we die, if we left this hearth as shit, we will find more shit...no Armageddon… “We will be the Armageddon...”
Humanity is going to need a substantially new way of thinking if it is to survive!" (Albert Einstein)
Both exist right here and now. It is up to your density and your vibration to which you choose to percieve, and it is completely up to us to sort through and figure out which we choose to live in. Of course there are degrees that we can pass through but it is our choice in when we wish to stand still @ any given time.
the first post mentioned religions. did you all know that there are religions that are not concerned with what happens after death, or at least it is not a central issue? i can't see that taoism cares, nor many forms of buddhism, nor judaism. some religions only are about how you live your life.
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Humanity is going to need a substantially new way of thinking if it is to survive!" (Albert Einstein)
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Most people are in hell, they're just so distracted in their illusions (for instance American Idol) they don't notice very often.
Heaven is evolution. It's Change in every Moment. It's already Here, one just needs to let go of hell.
Heaven is the Present Moment. hell is the repetition of the past.
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ThetaAbundance (04-20-2009)
Yes, just had a convo with three people who are currently residing in hell; all comfy, next to the river of denial!
I frequent often... it serves a purpose and then I go, "WTF I want to go home"... so I shift into gear... then I become complacent and get bored with feeling peaceful and catch a flight to down under.
That is, my dears, what the wheel of fortune represents in the tarot deck.. if you find it along with the devil and/or prince of wands... enjoy the ride!
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It's true any "mortal one" can make their life on earth seem like it's hell, or make it seem like it's heaven.
But the question is, when you die and are no longer mortal, which direction will your soul follow? The hell you made up for yourself on earth when you were mortal, or a heaven you made for yourself on earth? Let's pretend reincarnation doesn't exist, even though it might...
Where do you believe your spirit/soul will go?
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Eternity doesn’t exist…well, not in the way some people imagines. God/Creator put it in anyway you like it, can not give eternity to perishable flash.. This is our job to discover. And when that will happens in about a million years from now…( just a figure) you can steel die. Death/Evil will always hover over us. Then will be our choice to live or die…. The spirit belongs to us…no one can take that away from us.its our life force…our battery so to speck…. in regards flying in Haven with our own wings? The only wings that you can have is the KFC chicken wings…
Humanity is going to need a substantially new way of thinking if it is to survive!" (Albert Einstein)
Hey Quos! How is the surf on your side?..correctamundo..
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LOL Funny but true...Only a certain kind of angel have wings...
Hay Wave.... today you would kill yours self.....the weather is miserable....very windy and pouring... I m 50 mt from the ocean…well I revived one of your old thread...interesting one…. like it..
Humanity is going to need a substantially new way of thinking if it is to survive!" (Albert Einstein)
Visioneer (04-20-2009)
I don't think heaven or hell are external places, but just a perception like any other. I believe consciousness was here before we became aware of it, and before it manifested itself in the 3rd dimension as life and death. I don't think we go anywhere, rather, the experience of ourself changes.
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Visioneer (04-20-2009)
Well, I actually wrote up a bit of something a few weeks ago that addresses this exact issue.
I could have gone deeper but I think I'm still trying to figure things out further.I've thought about this question long and hard for years.
After endless questioning, I'm still questioning; however I've come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter.
The idea of an "Afterlife" is one meant to comfort human beings. We fear the idea of inexistence. We fear "Not being". I've, at times, thought there was a God and, at times, thought that there was no God. The only logical conclusion that I can come to is that my mind cannot comprehend God; therefor I cannot comprehend an afterlife.
That isn't to be said that there isn't a "Whole-ness" to everything. A collective unconscious of the universe. An all-encompassing "Is". Whether this is sentient or not is up for debate. I don't believe it is. The fact of the matter is that, no matter what you believe, we all come from the same thing. Whether this be the Big Bang, God, or a pink elephant, we all sprouted from the same seed. That, alone, connects us all. We are all one-in-the-same in origin. Even in the absence of an afterlife or a greater being, we still have that connection. This is reinforced by emotional and logical connections. No matter what, we must keep these connections strong, else we will lose our path.
The point of existence isn't what happens afterward. People concern themselves too much with what may happen after they die as a reason to help others on earth. This is a flawed thinking and is extremely narcissistic. That's the truth, whether you want to believe it or not. If it takes the punishment of an eternity in Hell to get you to do good for your fellow man during this life, you are a narcissist and are only watching out for yourself. Fear shouldn't be what guides you- Love should.
Love of your fellow man, no matter how far off the path this person is. Love all those around you and love every being. Don't mistake this love to neglect yourself. You must pay attention to yourself and further yourself to extend your reach to help and love those further than your physical reach. Love nature and the origin of existence. Never fool yourself into a false state-of-mind that says "I must be good because 'so and so' says I should." Don't just "Be good." Know what is right and wrong. Set those boundaries for yourself.
Learn to love and let live. There's a possibility that this is your only chance. Don't tangle your mind up in pointless endeavors of an afterlife. Just love because that's the only thing you can do.
Visioneer (04-20-2009)
You go where you already Are.
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But at the same time I love this weather...love the rain.... the extreme of nature.... reminds us that its there… love the power of nature.... experienced several cyclones. Very exiting… …going back to your thread…..…Nothing is for ever.... when this rock had it, we must change rock…like a house….we must get ready for this …God has given us the intelligence for it….
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sorry visioneer i ment that I have rivived one of Your old thread..got a bit mix up with Wave...very goog thread..must look for more.....
Humanity is going to need a substantially new way of thinking if it is to survive!" (Albert Einstein)
So that would be more like a parallel world where when you die you don't even realise it, and here you are again. A deja vue type of thing...
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No worries..
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