+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: True Freedom

| More
  1. #1
    Je suis fou :) TheRavenMother is a jewel in the rough TheRavenMother is a jewel in the rough TheRavenMother is a jewel in the rough TheRavenMother's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    West Midlands, UK
    Posts
    6,652
    Blog Entries
    3
    Thanks
    255
    Thanked 212 Times in 133 Posts
    Referrals
    7
    Rep Power
    11
    Aura Color
    Gold

    True Freedom


    This ad goes away when you register.
    About 4 days ago I have a very important idea come to my mind from a spiritual source; I was thinking about the missions etc everybody here has been discussing amongst each other and I came to a conclusion in which I most definitely will need a great deal of support of.

    The idea I came out with is basic common sense really, and something practically all of us in the starseed and indigo community would have already of known and want.
    We are here to change the world for what we consider to be for the better good, right?

    Well, the UN is known worldwide as the head of the bill for human rights, correct?

    I wish to point out something which a non deep thinker wouldn’t see… that is the fact that there isn’t really, true freedom for the whole world. We are all owned by a government of some kind.
    If there is a national disaster or war, we are made to do things by national request, whether we agree with that thing or not – whether we would do it anyways voluntarily or not, it doesn’t matter – point is, you should have that choice and not be bribed.
    So, I would like to get some people together, from all corners of the globe to stand together on just one thing – the thing is… the right to declare independence from any governmental source to become self sufficient like nature intended… the right to become free, with a freedom pass – as a human we have the rights to free healthcare and education if we so desire them, so as our human rights states by declaring independence from the government we do not surrender our rights; it is the UN’s duty to protect such independent persons from slavery of the governments.
    There is a race of people who already try and get this independence and they are the most hated people around the world… gypsies believe in exactly what I am suggesting here – many gypsies would be law abiding land-citizens if they were allowed their freedom… unfortunately you mention you are gypsy no one wants to employ you, just because of who you are – these people need a place to live and food to eat, so they have to break the law via trespassing and stealing – its wrong, I know it is wrong, I stand with you and say it is wrong… but do not look at the viewpoint of one side. I know many gypsies, as I am related distantly, by my mother’s cousins to a large family in Hungary, Venice and Central England, they used to make a living our of circuses and fairgrounds, but because of laws coming out it made it extremely hard for them to live, so they had to surrender their freedom ways, and claim land after 30yrs of saving, they now run a fixed base fairground equipment repairs place in North London, because they can only afford a small piece of land, this has split the family up into small groups and caused a lot of heartache.
    Many of the other gypsies are not so lucky, they have their land taken from them because the government says only a certain amount of people can live on that land, you have to ask permission and pay for each new mobile home you put there and each thing you do there.
    Then, even though you keep to your own community – people start to cast you out and send petitions to the government, only when they found out you’re a gypsy, not if you’re anyone else.
    Also, many tribal folk around the world would also support my idea, there are so many tribes people who will loose their ancient lands to the government for oil and gold purposes, such a tribe which this could happen to in the next 2 – 3yrs is a tribe called the insect tribe in Papua New Guinea, because there is a healthy supply of gold at the end of their river.
    Their chief cannot over ride the law of their prime minister, although he is law to the tribes people his voice is invalid to the world; this is wrong.
    It takes a few people like you and me, who live in cities and know a bit more of the law than they do, to stand up and say… well actually… we want freedom from the government… to go back to nature, and surrender certain aspects of being with a government. Then supporting the tribes, and gypsy folk who are constantly bullied by the oppressed government and their sheep!
    You need to sit back and really think about what I am saying here… you are not alone in this idea, I know I am not alone in this idea… there is at least 1 million gypsies in every large country which will support this idea, and the thousands upon thousands of tribes people around the world who’d help.
    Now according to my research, it takes 10,000 voices for the UN to listen about issues and actually take note; I am seeing at least a million supporters, once my idea is advertised worldwide. A number of people, in which the UN just simply cannot ignore:

    What we would request is… no national insurance number, as we do not need it as we do not wish to be a part of the government anymore.
    Free healthcare for life threatening situations, as it is our human right.
    Protection from the UN from such people who may try and harm our way of life, via slavery or enforcing things upon us which is not in our agreement:
    If someone is stupid enough to commit a crime from our section, they must suffer the consequences that their freedom will be taken from them because it is a crime against the civilians of whichever governments land we are on!
    If someone commits a crime within the free people circle, we deal with them in our own way as a tribe in which there will be a voting system for everything we do by all residential members.
    To be allocated free land for us to reside in, and if we wish to move we can do so, freely, the UN or government must offer us this land and the land must be fertile and to the climates the race of the people can tolerate and survive.
    The right to trade if we so desire with the government or civilians of that government.
    The right to be a part of the civilizations community, if we so wish, to help contribute to their services.
    The right to build according to our needs and to farm according to our needs!

    What we are basically doing in affect is… asking for freedom from the government but building an alliance with the UN in general – the UN supports human rights, and is filled with the spokespersons of all nations worldwide, which is not 1 government, but a unity of all.
    Personally I feel we should trash all separate governments and have just a unity of spokespersons from each country which deals in the UN, to maintain human rights worldwide, and protect those who do not wish to dwell in cities and be sheep.

    I would like to hear if you support this or not.

    I’d like to see, how many people want true freedom or not.
    DONT DREAM IT BE IT!

    Know thy enemy

    Don't live in fear of words alone, live in fear of the actions behind the words or what may happen if those words are never uttered!


    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote   Share with Facebook (0)

  2. #2
    Je suis fou :) TheRavenMother is a jewel in the rough TheRavenMother is a jewel in the rough TheRavenMother is a jewel in the rough TheRavenMother's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    West Midlands, UK
    Posts
    6,652
    Blog Entries
    3
    Thanks
    255
    Thanked 212 Times in 133 Posts
    Referrals
    7
    Rep Power
    11
    Aura Color
    Gold
    Forgot to mention one last thing at the end of that!

    I asked my psalm book the question of whether or not I should continue in my quest to find others who think like me and encourage them to do this with the UN if they can and this is the reply I got.

    You live your life in the light and are true of heart... do not let the foot of pride crush you and let the hands of the wicked be cast down before you, they are fallen and will not be able to stand. The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein forever. The mouth of the righteous is exercised in true wisdom and his tongue speaks not of judgment. Let not your path slide.
    DONT DREAM IT BE IT!

    Know thy enemy

    Don't live in fear of words alone, live in fear of the actions behind the words or what may happen if those words are never uttered!


    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote   Share with Facebook (0)

  3. #3
    Cosmic Cuddler Patryc has much to be proud of Patryc has much to be proud of Patryc has much to be proud of Patryc has much to be proud of Patryc has much to be proud of Patryc has much to be proud of Patryc has much to be proud of Patryc has much to be proud of Patryc has much to be proud of Patryc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Perth, Australia
    Posts
    14,212
    Thanks
    1,495
    Thanked 1,139 Times in 771 Posts
    Referrals
    3
    Rep Power
    29
    Aura Color
    many
    indeed I would love to see this happen - and I believe it will happen eventually as so many of the governments are in debt up to their eyeballs. They cannot sustain this way of living. They either change or fall apart. Governments would need massive change to stay in place which is something they seem to be allergic to. Many of the third world countries governments have already fallen apart and anarchy reigns in these areas. It would probably take worldwide collective natural disasters to bring down the big governments of the 1st World Countries but I don't think this is an option that is totally out of the picture. From what I understanding of 2012 there will be a pole shift. This in itself means much moving of the tectonic plates and all of earths electromagnetic fields will realign in accordance to this pole shift. I do not see how this cannot cause massive calamities as a result. Best to hole your survival skills and insticts while you can.

    Namaste

    Patryc
    "There are hundreds of languages in the world, but a smile speaks them all." - Anonymous
    The Infinite Strength of Spirit empowers the Will to embrace the Beauty of Change - Patryc
    "If I distrust the human being, then I must cram her with information of my own choosing lest she go her own mistake way. But if I trust the capacity of the human individual for developing, then I can provide her with many opportunities and permit her to choose her own way and her own directions in learning." - Rogers & Freiberg, 1994, p. 160

    5 Tibetan Rites
    http://www.biologyofkundalini.com/
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote   Share with Facebook (0)

  4. #4
    Senior Member psuedo-judo is on a distinguished road psuedo-judo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    1,170
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
    Rep Power
    4
    If i can help let me know how. We do need to make an organised effort as a collective so you have my support, just provide me with some info x
    Bigger whirls have little whirls,
    That feed of there velocity,
    And little whirls have lesser whirls,
    And so on to viscosity.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote   Share with Facebook (0)

  5. #5
    Senior Member psuedo-judo is on a distinguished road psuedo-judo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    1,170
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
    Rep Power
    4
    ps
    if you can find out about UN law and provide me with the documents that say a people can legally renounce the rule of any goverment but must still be supplied with humanitarian aid i.e. health care, national defence and law enforcement then it will be possible to garner support for a political party in this country that is not affiliated with the british government.

    So many people are disillusioned with the british government that an independant source running for government that they can evaluate for themselves could be very helpful for rallying political support, if an Indigo party succesfully used this tactic then there would be a democratic representation at the UN(as and opposed to an ogliarchaic one)
    Bigger whirls have little whirls,
    That feed of there velocity,
    And little whirls have lesser whirls,
    And so on to viscosity.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote   Share with Facebook (0)

  6. #6
    Je suis fou :) TheRavenMother is a jewel in the rough TheRavenMother is a jewel in the rough TheRavenMother is a jewel in the rough TheRavenMother's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    West Midlands, UK
    Posts
    6,652
    Blog Entries
    3
    Thanks
    255
    Thanked 212 Times in 133 Posts
    Referrals
    7
    Rep Power
    11
    Aura Color
    Gold
    if you can find out about UN law and provide me with the documents that say a people can legally renounce the rule of any goverment but must still be supplied with humanitarian aid i.e. health care, national defence and law enforcement then it will be possible to garner support for a political party in this country that is not affiliated with the british government
    I don't know if there is a law already out there... my idea was to try and fight for the law to be made... the right to renounce the rule of a government.
    I am glad your supporting this, it shows you are not willing to remain in the slavery people are not noticing they are in.
    DONT DREAM IT BE IT!

    Know thy enemy

    Don't live in fear of words alone, live in fear of the actions behind the words or what may happen if those words are never uttered!


    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote   Share with Facebook (0)

  7. #7
    Senior Member psuedo-judo is on a distinguished road psuedo-judo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    1,170
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
    Rep Power
    4
    Well it sounds alot like that should be law already.

    Some native american tribes were finally allowed to join the UN at there last summit, prehaps they have managed to pass a law which either allows them to rule themselves and there land or only be partially affiliated with the government.

    We should look for something like this if we want to declare an individual/collective sovereignty from the state.
    Bigger whirls have little whirls,
    That feed of there velocity,
    And little whirls have lesser whirls,
    And so on to viscosity.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote   Share with Facebook (0)

  8. #8
    Je suis fou :) TheRavenMother is a jewel in the rough TheRavenMother is a jewel in the rough TheRavenMother is a jewel in the rough TheRavenMother's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    West Midlands, UK
    Posts
    6,652
    Blog Entries
    3
    Thanks
    255
    Thanked 212 Times in 133 Posts
    Referrals
    7
    Rep Power
    11
    Aura Color
    Gold
    Here is a philosophy from SENECA

    "Nature intended that we should need no great equipment for living happily; each one of us is able to make their own happiness":
    DONT DREAM IT BE IT!

    Know thy enemy

    Don't live in fear of words alone, live in fear of the actions behind the words or what may happen if those words are never uttered!


    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote   Share with Facebook (0)

  9. #9
    Furry creature Indigofuzzy is on a distinguished road Indigofuzzy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Belle vernon, PA
    Posts
    284
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
    Referrals
    1
    Rep Power
    4
    Aura Color
    The quiz says indigo, but a photo taken in 1999 says white with rainbow edges.
    Anyone heard of the Gay and Lesbian Kingdom, in the Coral sea?

    BTW, the UN is just as big a farce as the governments.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote   Share with Facebook (0)

+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. true white brother
    By Artist in forum Indigo Phenomenon
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: 05-30-2007, 06:26 AM
  2. True birthday...
    By TheRavenMother in forum Spirituality
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 05-10-2007, 04:41 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts