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    MEXICO CITY — Schools closed Friday for 6.1 million students across Mexico City and its suburbs, along with public museums and libraries, after an unusually fierce swine flu outbreak that has killed at least 20 people. Another 40 deaths are being investigated for a connection to the virus.

    Authorities in the capital — home to about half of the 18 million people in the metropolitan area — planned to hand out surgical-style masks on the crowded subway and public bus system, prohibit mass events and perhaps even cancel professional soccer matches in an attempt to contain the outbreak.

    The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said tests show some of the Mexico victims died from the same new strain of swine flu that sickened eight people in California and Texas. The eight U.S. victims recovered.

    The CDC said Americans need not avoid traveling to Mexico, as long as they take the usual precautions, such as frequent handwashing.

    Mexico's health minister, Jose Angel Cordova, said the virus had been clearly identified and specialists had determined that the best course of treatment is the use of specific anti-virals and not anti-flu vaccinations.

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    I know there was a talk of the avian flu being released. I hadn't heard of the swine flu until I read this today. Just staying on top of the news, or trying to.


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    There's more to the email, but wasn't sure if wanted in here

    I just received this in my e-mail ... nice!







    April 24, 2009


    THIS Health Freedom Action eAlert IS LONG - AND COULD SAVE YOUR LIFE!


    SMOKING GUN: NEW DEADLY VIRUS HAS GENE SEQUENCES NEVER SEEN BEFORE


    GENES DO NOT "POP UP" OUT OF NOWHERE. WE BELIEVE THIS IS A BIOENGINEERED WEAPON.


    YOU NEED TO READ THIS BLAST, THEN BUY SILVER




    AND GET OUT OF THE US IF YOU CAN, AT LEAST FOR A WHILE - OR BOTH

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    Note 1: Nano silver, www.Nutronix.com/naturalsolutions, overcomes all known pathogens (that is, disease-causing organisms) against which it has been tested. Currently, I am aware of about 635 successful tests. I cannot tell you that it will deal with this weaponized virus, but I can tell you that if anything can, this virus can -- safely, without harming you, your children or pets...

    Note 2: The information which appears at the end of this email was originally intended to be the sole subject of today's email blast. The appearance of a potential novel "Pandemic" virus meant that we had to cover that situation carefully and thoroughly first but the information is so relevant that we decided to add it to the end of the blast. I urge you to set aside some time in your overcrowded schedule to read this entire email from start to finish and then send it out with a request that your entire list do the same. I know that you are busy. But your immune system is your only defense against being overwhelmed with whatever is being brought to you by dedicated lunatics who literally want you and your family dead. Literally.
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    Weaponized Flu Pandemic Starting?


    The Weaponized Flu Pandemic, WPF, Appears to Have Begun


    "It first looked mostly like a swine virus but closer analysis showed it is a never-before-seen mixture of swine, human and avian viruses, according to the CDC."




    "Don't be concerned", say the pundits of officialdom, "but this virus has killed 61 people in Mexico and has spread to the US." In Mexico, the victims have died while in the US they have not. I must assume that this is because their immune systems were in better shape. You will find specific information relating to that vital truth at the end of this message. Please take the time to read it all because it could save your life.

    The article in Reuters goes on to say, "Because there is clearly human-to-human spread of the new virus, rising fears of a major outbreak, Mexico's government canceled classes for millions of children in its sprawling capital city and surrounding areas.

    "Our concern has grown as of yesterday," U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention acting director Dr. Richard Besser told reporters in a telephone briefing." but the CDC and WHO go on to note that you should not alter your travel plans even though they also say they think that there may be as many as 1000 cases in Mexico...

    Eight people were infected with the new strain in California and Texas, but all of them have recovered. Mexico said it had close to 1,000 suspected cases there.

    "The CDC's Besser said scientists were working to understand why there are so many deaths in Mexico when the infections in the United States seem mild. Worldwide, seasonal flu kills between 250,000 and 500,000 people in an average year, but the flu season for North America should have been winding down. The U.S. government said it was closely following the new cases. 'The White House is taking the situation seriously and monitoring for any new developments. The president has been fully briefed,' an administration official said. Mexico's government cautioned people not to shake hands or kiss when greeting or to share food, glasses or cutlery for fear of infection....The WHO said it was ready to use rapid containment measures if needed, including antivirals, and that both the United States and Mexico are well equipped to handle the outbreak. Both the WHO and the CDC said there was no need to alter travel arrangements in Mexico or the United States."


    I believe, on the contrary, that you SHOULD alter you travel plans. If you have any means to, or reason to, or thoughts of, being outside the US and Mexico RIGHT NOW, do it. Get a ticket and get out. Why? Because the flu may not sicken or kill you, but the forced vaccinations very well may.

    It has also been noted in officialdom that although there is no evidence that this year's seasonal flu would provide cross "protection," that "possibility" is being "studied."
    5 will get you 10 that the official pronouncement comes forth that, indeed, this year's flu vaccine miraculously confers "protection" against this mystery disease and, aren't we lucky? We can all take the Seasonal Flu vaccine and get "protected". I will be literally astonished if that is not the thrust of this "investigation" of a "lucky coincidence".
    Vaccines, an uninsurable risk, are damaging and deadly at the best of times and have never been proven either safe or effective, despite the near-religious fervor of their well-funded supporters. Despite the total lack of scientific evidence that the antibodies produced by an irritated immune system provide protection for people against what they were injected for, epidemics continue to occur primarily in vaccinated populations (just as Avian Flu continued to appear in vaccinated flocks living in industrial conditions). But epidemics make for great crowd control opportunities and for wonderful population reduction exercises.

    If this "strange brew virus" is the beginning of the Pandemic we have been promised for so long, it will LITERALLY signal the end of our lives as we know them, or even the ending of our lives. The monsters intentionally working this scheme have said over and over that there WOULD be a Pandemic, that it COULD be any time. The Powers That Kill (PTK) decided some time ago that there were simply too many of us "Useless Eaters" and they have concocted several schemes to accomplish the culling to get rid of what the US Government, the UN, WHO and others have decided is "necessary" for a sustainable planet: 80-90% of us dead. Remember, information is appearing which says that the new virus is a "strange brew" of swine flu, avian flu and human flu. Such "Strange Brews" do not occur by themselves. They occur in laboratories where mad men/women and their murderous gutless, spineless technicians and helpers assist them.

    We have a warning to those who would perpetrate this horror: "just following orders" is not a defense to a charge of Crimes Against Humanity. You will be found out. You will be blamed. Just like the enlisted soldiers who were the scapegoats at Abu Grave, your superiors will disavow you and leave you hanging in the wind. Just like what may be about to happen to the NeoCon torturers of the last US Administration.
    Two days ago, we heard rumblings of a mystery "Swine Flu" which was killing people in Mexico, but, not to worry! This was, the media soothed, not, repeat not, the start of a Pandemic. Yesterday we heard that there were now cases of this mystery disease in the US

    and today, at 1:30 PM, Recombinomics Commentary, a virology journal, tells us that this IS the start of the Pandemic.

    Click here - http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2515 - for source articles and references.
    But they also tell us that the gene sequences are totally novel and that such a virus has not been seen before.

    Not outside of a weapons virology laboratory, that is. If this engineered Pandemic does not fizzle as several recent attempts we've tracked, you are being set up for one of three events. If it does fizzle there WILL be another attempt after this one, and another and another... until they get what they are after: genocidal depopulation -- unless we stop these atrocities.
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    Here's what you are looking at in the very near future:
    You will face either FEMA or the Department of Homeland Security running the country with:

    1. Martial Law and forced vaccinations, if you accept them. These vaccine will have GOD ONLY KNOWS WHAT in them (perhaps some of the same goodies that were used to sterilize 3,000,000+ women in the Philippines without their knowledge, according to the conviction handed down by the Philippine Supreme Court, or the ones that were used, starting in 1985 by the WHO, to make enough women sterile in Africa to "eliminate 150,000,000 excess Sub Saharan Africans") or something in there to make sure that you have the flu or develop leukemia from the known contaminating viruses permitted in vaccines by the FDA for decades, or poisonous aluminum, fluoride and mercury, or MSG, or, or....

    2. Martial Law with forced internment for an indefinite period if you refuse the "treatment" or "prevention" offered to you. If you think that this internment will be for your good health and survival, guess again. The DOJ no doubt already has a Memo drafted that it is perfectly legal.

    This is not conspiracy theory - this is conspiracy fact: there IS a conspiracy to kill you and yours. Disregard this information and warning at your own peril. What are the consequences if you are unable to incorporate this information and it is true? What are the consequences if you do deal with it and it turns out to false or the weaponized virus fails in its mission?

    You can see pretty quickly that this is a time to act on the basis that it IS true and do a Monday Morning Quarterback session if it's not. If it is correct, and we fear it may be, then not acting on it can, quite simply, destroy you and yours.

    Not convinced? Simply think about Baxter's contamination of seasonal flu vaccine with highly infective weaponized Avian Flu Virus - followed by no criminal investigation, no firings, nothing and add in the fact that Baxter was applying for a license to sell their new Avian Flu vaccine against the same strain found in the vaccines in the very same 18 countries and you cannot miss the conspiracy.

    But time has run out to try to persuade people. Frankly, at this point, you either follow your intuition and get it or you do not.

    You are about to read for yourself the way it is and if you can see it, fine. If you cannot, well, the consequences will be on your own head. But the cost of ignoring what you are about to read, and not sharing it, may be truly life-and-death horrendous. Let me add here that I pray to my God that this deadly attempt on our lives and our way of life fails as the other attempts we've documented have.


    DEAR GOD, LET ME BE WRONG!

    Some of the intentional plagues, like SARS, have fizzled miserably (or gloriously for us who do not wish to die). Avian Flu simply would not get off the ground - 64% of the chickens in Indonesia, for example, developed a gene which makes them immune to the novel, weaponized Avian Flu with which they have been injected!

    The Wellcome Trust of drug giant Burroughs Wellcome/SmithKleinGlaxo recently handed out grants to figure out why the Avian Flu was NOT causing a pandemic. Highly pathogenic (disease-causing) agents went through several transmissions and, DANG!, they lost their punch so that Egyptian toddlers are, as a recent news article said, unexpectedly not dying.
    The fact, however, that they were not dying of the Avian Flu was, in the bizarre and twisted logic of that writer, a cause for even greater concern (and more vaccinations?) because then people would spread it without dying and there would be more deaths. Say what? Logic is not a strong point of those who hire themselves out to TPK.

    Laws have been put in place to allow the mere utterance of the word "Pandemic" by the Secretary of Health and Human Services to close the trap on anyone inside, entering or leaving the US, compelling vaccination or internment via martial law and other "emergency measures":

    ~ Accept either Mandatory Vaccination or involuntary internment ("quarantine") for an unspecified period of time. More than 630 camps, with a total capacity of close to 30 million people, have been built and staffed (Patriot Acts I, II, BARDA, State Emergency Medical Powers Acts in virtually every state make refusing a vaccine when called for by the Governor a felony offense punishable by immediate imprisonment).

    ~ Presidential Emergency Powers which authorize the stripping of your citizenship and habeas corpus rights and authorizing holding you as a suspected terrorist if you disagree with the system's desires (Executive Order, October 17, 2007).

    The Sec of HHS needs no scientific substantiation, no advice and consent from Congress, no validation from anyone. Just the magic word, "Pandemic!" CAN and WILL trigger Health Fascism such as we have never seen outside of the concentration camps of Germany. You see,

    ~ The Warren Commission Act (October 17, 2006), authorizes holding "suspected terrorists" [see above] without a trial or with a trial before a military tribunal but without legal representation, the right to confront one's accusers, the right to examine the evidence against you or be informed of the charges against you, and subjecting you to the possibility of a secret execution as a "suspected terrorist" while -

    ~ President Bush's Executive Order of October 17, 2006 cancels habeas corpus, the rights granted under the English Common Law System to not be kidnapped by the state without notifying people that you are being held, the right to legal representation, the right to a speedy trial, the right to know the charges against you, the right to examine the evidence being held against you, the right to face your accusers, the right, in short, to justice under the US Constitution. Gone.

    Natural Solutions Foundation has been warning for some time that a bio-engineered, weaponized flu virus and/or weaponized flu vaccine is in the offing. See, for example, Intellegence Report on Weaponized Avia Flu, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r-njxcVt5U, Smoke and Mirrors… shards of truth - http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=965 and Avian Flu "Accident" - http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2220.

    If you recall, it was the Natural Solutions Foundation which broke the Weaponized Flu story in July, 2008 and have followed it up vigorously with videos, on the radio and in writing since then.
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    OK. NOW WHAT?

    An official in Indiana recently claimed that he had been briefed along with others that FEMA has a plan to vaccinate every man, woman and child in the US within 48 hours of the start of an official "Pandemic". While that is an enormous logistical task, given that battle veterans are in place "backing up" police departments throughout the nation, who knows what might be accomplished? Rounding up people, putting them in holding centers and administering these shots forcibly under armed guard as was done to the children of Prince George's County, MD, school district in November, 2007? You will recall that the State's Attorney in this action, Mr. Glenn Ivey, stated that his own young children were protected under an exemption in the state which he had filed for them because the vaccines were dangerous.
    Could mercenaries who work for companies like Xe, the renamed Blackwater, the hundreds of thousands of foreign soldiers reported to be quartered in the US (despite the "outmoded" [according to President Obama] US Constitution's prohibition of such quartering) and newly retrained US and Canadian troops round people up and sort out the accepters from the refusers, shipping off the refusers to camps and jails prepared for them. No? Why not? After all, they would be indoctrinated to believe that you, unvaccinated, would pose a danger that the rest of us and therefore, if you were reluctant to do your duty for society and accept the vaccination, you would have to be removed from society. Can't happen? That's what the ghastly, inhuman and ineffective, but ever-burgeoning prison system is based upon. Precisely.

    Given that in July of 2008, within 24 hours of each other, the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Homeland Security declared that their goal was to vaccinate every man, woman and child in the United States against the Avian Flu (now, of course, it would be the "Mysterious" Swine Flu), starting, as they so chillingly put it, with those who want it, there is no reason to think that this is not what lies in store for us.
    My advice to you: DO NOT accept injections. Protect your immune system by starting a vigorous, but sensible, detoxification program NOW and by giving up any sort of packaged food that is not labeled organic and GMO free. Read the information below on how to do that with safe, clean and effective products which also provide support to the Natural Solutions Foundation so that we can continue fighting for you and your rights.
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    Pushback Victory No. 1. EPA Attack on Silver Tarnished by Public Outcry!

    The Mouse that Roared is a 1955 novel by Irish writer Leonard Wibberley about an imaginary impoverished country, the smallest in the world, which declares war against the United States - and wins!

    Well, we have been doing a pretty good job of riding, and roaring with, the Freedom Mouse. In fact when we roar loud enough, the Corporate Lion in the Board Room backs off. We roared out a huge number of emails to our Congressional Public Servants and to the head of involved agencies. We said, in essence, "Don't you dare, EPA, take away a safe, effective and proven method of disease control!"

    And guess what? EPA decided to back off, put out a call for research proposals which it will not begin to sift through until this summer and take some years to "study" the situation. And it decided that, because of the [Freedom] Mouse that Roared, it could not divest the citizens of the US of their choice in health promotion aides without a whole, whole let more backup in the form of scientific papers, information and justification.

    The information we have is that the size of the public outcry was the determining factor! Mouse Warriors, congratulate yourself on a push back well-executed.

    Now that you have that pleasure under your belt, hang on for a ride here. EPA and its multinational backers are not backing off. They'll be back. But we are not backing out.
    March 20 was the last day for public comments on the absurd and potentially disastrous ploy to declare nano silver a "pesticide" and declare the equipment that makes it also a "pesticide".

    Now if the US had a pesticide free food supply, such an approach might, just MIGHT, make some sort of sense. As it is, the US is completely happy for us to eat pesticide laden foods, spray pesticides on our soil and lawns and, in general, make a lot of pesticide manufactures, and their multinational owners, quite happy without giving a thought to the real dangers of these dangerous chemicals.

    But silver, especially nano silver, is safe and effective for the disease-causers outside of you body and multiplying happily inside of it. After all, silver is pretty much universal nutritional support for normal immune response to the multitude of things that can make us sick or even kill us. And it is cheap, really cheap, especially compared to expensive, dangerous and damaging medications to which the bugs are increasingly resistant.
    Because of the way nano silver works, no pathogen can become resistant to it. It nourishes an immune system that can overcome the bad guys and let the good guys (beneficial probiotics) alone. Here is where you can get enough to tide you and your loved ones over through this horrifying situation if you can either leave the country OR self quarantine. See our guide to self quarantining here - http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=752. And get your Nano Silver here:



    Pushback Victory No. 2. ("VIP" or "Victory In Progress)

    Food Fascism in the Halls of Congress:

    Inside information on the dangerous farm bills which will hand ALL food production to the industrialized food system:

    1. We are creating the necessary pushback against HR 875 and S 425 and that is due to YOUR actions. Thank you, Mouse Warriors! We have been informed that congressmen are approaching 875's sponsor and asking what her bill is about, because their offices are being flooded with our emails protesting this legislative assault on sense and survival.

    This is outstanding.

    2. However, it is clear that H.R. 875/S. 425 are just stalking horses, and the real danger has always been H. R. 759. If you recall, Natural Solutions Foundation has been saying this for some time. H.R. 875/S. 425 moves the usual FDA bureaucrats to a new Food Safety Agency and gives them more power. HR 759 simply gives them more power to abuse.

    We now understand that the fervor mounted against 875/425 can be used by the other side to clear the path to passage of the even worse HR 759. We are, however, on to the strategy being used: wear us out with 875/425 and sneak 759 in over our exhausted bodies.

    Well, you and I are having none of it. We are tired, but we are far from exhausted. Click here -
    http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2498
    - to read a side by side comparison of 875 and 759 to see why both are bad, but 759 is even worse.
    Our response to this common political ploy? More messages to Congress!!! Just the thing they are counting on us not being able to muster.

    We can, we are and we will muster that response. It is imperative that we once again rise to the MouseWarriorHeights that we have achieved in the campaign against 875/425 and surpass it. Here is the link to cut and paste in order to take action: http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/t/1128/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=26714.

    You can also go to our Health Freedom Blog to read our White Paper on Codex and the (sic) "Food Safety" Bills here -
    http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2394
    .
    You can read about the issue in more detail, take the actions required and then send it off on its viral journey.
    Once you do take the action steps, you know the drill: viralize, viralize, viralize!

    Check out our new PodCasts on www.HealthFreedomRadio.com!
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    Pushback Victory No. 3. Bovine Growth Hormone

    Milk Labeling PushBack Victory - for Now!



    Kansas Governor Sebelius, Obama's Pick for Head of Health And Human Services, Vetoes Milk Labeling Bill!
    Who knows? Maybe she will resist yelling "Pandemic", too!

    In a victory for local dairy farmers and consumers, Gov. Sebelius vetoed a highly controversial bill that would have limited rbGH labeling on dairy products in the state. Under the provisions of the bill, consumers would have not been able to determine if the milk they were drinking had been produced by cows made ill, but more productive, with Monsanto's Prosilac, or recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone.

    The bill, HB 2121, faced massive opposition from dairy, consumer, health, animal welfare and environmental organizations across the country; nearly 30 of which wrote a letter to Governor Sebelius urging her to veto HR 2121.

    Consumers and organizations flooded the office of the Governor and the pushback worked! The controversial bill passed by the Kansas State Legislature would have required an additional disclaimer on labels for dairy products produced from cows not treated with recombinant bovine growth hormone (rbGH or rbST), a genetically engineered, artificial hormone that induces cows to produce more milk.

    The Governor's office sent out a press release late this afternoon, explaining why she vetoed the bill:
    "...the Bill before me...provides for changes in dairy labeling that could make it more difficult to provide consumers with clear information. The milk labeling provisions negatively impact a dairy producer's ability to inform consumers that milk is from cows not treated with recombinant bovine growth hormone (rBST)."

    "Supporters of the bill claim it's necessary to protect consumers from false or misleading information. Yet there has been overwhelming opposition by consumer groups, small dairy producers and retailers to this proposed legislation. Therefore, pursuant to Article 2, Section 14 of the Constitution of the State of Kansas, I veto HB 2121."
    Pushback is a mighty force. Keep riding the Freedom Mouse, Mouse Warriors!
    Of course, there could be attempts to over-ride the veto, and our coalition is already making preparations to keep this veto intact. The final session of the Kansas legislature starts April 28 and could go as long as 10 days. We'll be ready. Stay tuned for further updates.
    What you are about to read was intended to be today's email blast. The appearance of a potential novel "Pandemic" virus meant that we had to cover that situation carefully and thoroughly first.

    But read on. The health equivalent of Freedom Mouse Pushback is protecting your immune system. It is your ONLY defense against being overwhelmed with whatever they throw at us while you use safe, clean products. All of the products listed below are important for your health. Use them. And without spending a penny more, you will be supporting the Natural Solutions Foundation at the same time.
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    Cool. It's an interesting time to be alive. I'll never get another flu vaccine though. My mom made me get one when I was a minor, and it made me really sick. If it becomes mandated, I will try to sweet talk my doctor into putting it on my chart, but not actually giving it to me. hehe.


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    I think our two Threads are similar, lol

    http://indigosociety.com/link-betwee...ne-flu-t18148/
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    ME: Never had a flu vaccine, will never get one. That gene sequence has been seen before, one needs only to take a peek into a clandestine military lab. (Of course we an't but ..you know) Someone has seen it, otherwise it wouldn't be here. Interesting they launched it in Mexico, which is slated to become part of the North American union. I suppose its more moral to do it now than to actually exteriminate after they have been naturalized that way there's more fema coffins for us died in the wool americans.


    My guide: Problem is these super diseases aren't killing as many people as they would like. If they launched something like that 30-40 years ago the effect would have been devastating but the earth's counciouness shifting has shifted even unaware people upwards too so a great deal of what they will throw at people is not as effective as they intially presumed.
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    I've had plenty of shots and gotta say that I'm glad I got them. When I was a kid, I was always the first in the house to get sick and it happened kinda often. I've even had walking pnemonia and the germ that causes tuberculosis. Today I haven't been sick with anything in years, literally, so I don't get them anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adalis View Post
    I've had plenty of shots and gotta say that I'm glad I got them. When I was a kid, I was always the first in the house to get sick and it happened kinda often. I've even had walking pnemonia and the germ that causes tuberculosis. Today I haven't been sick with anything in years, literally, so I don't get them anymore.
    So you have NO depression, thyroid, auto-immune (which doens't meant you get colds or flus), anxiety, confusion?

    If so, you are a lucky one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenguy View Post
    I think our two Threads are similar, lol

    http://indigosociety.com/link-betwee...ne-flu-t18148/
    Yeah, I noticed it a while after I posted mine. I was going to get rid of it, but I already had a reply. lol

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    ME: Never had a flu vaccine, will never get one. That gene sequence has been seen before, one needs only to take a peek into a clandestine military lab. (Of course we an't but ..you know) Someone has seen it, otherwise it wouldn't be here. Interesting they launched it in Mexico, which is slated to become part of the North American union. I suppose its more moral to do it now than to actually exteriminate after they have been naturalized that way there's more fema coffins for us died in the wool americans.


    My guide: Problem is these super diseases aren't killing as many people as they would like. If they launched something like that 30-40 years ago the effect would have been devastating but the earth's counciouness shifting has shifted even unaware people upwards too so a great deal of what they will throw at people is not as effective as they intially presumed.
    Yeah, 30+ years ago it may have knocked off 80% of the population if it spread all over the world. With all the health fanatics, aware people, and medical treatment available, I think we're looking at 30-40% at the very most. (It would take a higher toll in non-industrialized countries, most likely). If only sixty died out of 1000 cases in Mexico, that's only .06%. So perhaps 30-40% is even a gross overestimation.


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    Vaccinations are what causes the mutation of these diseases. Understand they shift in order to survive, like we do. If we treat them homeopathically they don't shift or mutate. If we try to kill the virus it will. Then we have to develop another vaccine.
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    MEXICO CITY — Alarmed Mexican officials, scrambling to control a swine flu outbreak that has killed as many as 68 people and infected possibly 1,000 more in recent weeks, canceled more public events Saturday in and around the capital and said they were considering keeping schools for millions of students here closed into next week.

    Officials also announced that two soccer matches scheduled for Sunday would be played without spectators, and hundreds of cultural events have been canceled.

    The Associated Press reported Saturday that 24 new suspected cases of the flu were reported.

    Mexico’s health minister, José Ángel Córdova, has said the country is dealing with a new flu virus that constitutes a respiratory epidemic that is so far controllable. He said the virus had mutated from pigs and had at some point been transmitted to humans.

    The new strain contains gene sequences from North American and Eurasian swine flus, North American bird flu and North American human flu, said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. A similar virus has been found in the American Southwest, where officials have reported eight nonfatal cases.

    Most of Mexico’s dead were young, healthy adults, and none were over 60 or under 3 years old, the World Health Organization said. That alarms health officials because seasonal flus cause most of their deaths among infants and bedridden elderly people, but pandemic flus — like the 1918 Spanish flu, and the 1957 and 1968 pandemics — often strike young, healthy people the hardest.

    Mexican officials have been urging people to avoid large gatherings and to refrain from shaking hands or greeting women with a kiss on the right cheek, as is common in Mexico.

    On Friday, Mexico City closed museums and other cultural venues, and advised people not to attend movies or public events. Seven million students, from kindergartners to college students, were kept from classes in Mexico City and the neighboring State of Mexico on Friday, in what news organizations called the first citywide closing of schools since a powerful earthquake in 1985.

    Because of the situation, the World Health Organization planned to consider raising the world pandemic flu alert to 4 from 3. Such a high level of alert — meaning that sustained human-to-human transmission of a new virus has been detected — has not been reached in recent years, even with the H5N1 avian flu circulating in Asia and Egypt, and would “really raise the hackles of everyone around the world,” said Dr. Robert G. Webster, a flu virus expert at St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital in Memphis.

    Mexico’s flu season is usually over by now, but health officials have noticed a significant spike in flu cases since mid-March. The W.H.O. said there had been 800 cases in Mexico in recent weeks, 60 of them fatal, of a flulike illness that appeared to be more serious than the regular seasonal flu. Mr. Córdova said Friday that there were 1,004 possible cases.

    Still, only a small number have been confirmed as cases of the new H1N1 swine flu, according to Gregory Hartl, a W.H.O. spokesman. Mexican authorities confirmed 16 deaths from swine flu and said 45 others were under investigation, most of them in the Mexico City area. The C.D.C. said that eight nonfatal cases had been confirmed in the United States, and that it had sent teams to California and Texas to investigate.

    “We are worried,” said Dr. Richard Besser, the acting head of the C.D.C. “We don’t know if this will lead to the next pandemic, but we will be monitoring it and taking it seriously.”

    There is no point in trying to use containment measures in the United States, he said, because the swine flu virus has already appeared from San Antonio to San Diego, without any obvious connections among cases. Containment measures usually work only when a disease is confined to a small area, he said.

    The C.D.C. refrained from warning people not to visit Mexico. Even so, the outbreak comes at an awful time for tourism officials, who have been struggling to counter the perception that violence has made Mexico unsafe for travelers. The outbreak was also causing alarm among Mexicans, many of whom rushed to buy masks or get checkups.

    “I hope it’s not something grave,” said Claudia Cruz, who took her 11-year-old son, Efrain, to a clinic on Friday after hearing the government warnings.

    Health officials urged anyone with a fever, a cough, a sore throat, shortness of breath or muscle and joint pain to seek medical attention.

    When a new virus emerges, it can sweep through the population, said Dr. Anne Moscona, a flu specialist at Cornell University’s medical school. The Spanish flu is believed to have infected at least 25 percent of the United States population, but killed less than 3 percent of those infected.

    The leading theory on why so many young, healthy people die in pandemics is the “cytokine storm,” in which vigorous immune systems pour out antibodies to attack the new virus. That can inflame lung cells until they leak fluid, which can overwhelm the lungs, Dr. Moscona said.

    But older people who have had the flu repeatedly in their lives may have some antibodies that provide cross-protection to the new strain, she said. And immune responses among the aged are not as vigorous.

    Despite the alarm in recent years over the H5N1 avian flu, which is still circulating in China, Indonesia, Egypt and elsewhere, some flu experts argued that it would never cause a pandemic, because no H5 strain ever had. All previous pandemics have been caused by H1s, H2s or H3s.

    Among the swine flu cases in the United States, none had had any contact with pigs; cases involving a father and daughter and two 16-year-old schoolmates convinced the authorities that the virus was being transmitted from person to person.

    In Canada, hit by the SARS epidemic in 2003, health officials urged those who had recently traveled to Mexico and become ill to seek treatment immediately.

    Marc Lacey reported from Mexico City, and Donald G. McNeil Jr. from New York. Ian Austen contributed reporting from Ottawa.

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    there actually is some indigo there, whatever that means...
    i'm determined not to add to the fear but the 68 deaths may not be the true figure. i say this because i live in mexico (not near mexico city) and i remember during a dengue outbreak here they didn't announce how many deaths there were. we found out the actual number from an md.

    i posted a new thread "homeopathy and epidemics: good news--don't panic!" which i hope you will all look at. its also on greenguy's thread and oreides' "a lot going on in the world..." it wore me out doing that much so i'm not going to post it here.
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    Thanks Rabana. Also, I didn't realize this had started in March. It's funny that it's just now in the news.


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    there actually is some indigo there, whatever that means...
    also i used to get that healthfreedom newsletter but i found them way hysterical. i frankly didn't want my name on their lists. make sure you check other sources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticknot View Post
    Vaccinations are what causes the mutation of these diseases. Understand they shift in order to survive, like we do. If we treat them homeopathically they don't shift or mutate. If we try to kill the virus it will. Then we have to develop another vaccine.
    So true! I read an article where someone provided a recipe for homeopathic chemtrail treatment. I thought, "How inventive- beat them at their own game!"

    I have it saved at work so I'll post a link tomorrow.
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    there actually is some indigo there, whatever that means...
    homeopathically made materials would be able to right all the wrongs done to the ecology of the planet. including bio-engineering. beating them at their own game about describes it.

    would very much like to see that info.
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    Yeah, feel free to post links to homeopathic healing stuff.

    This flu has confirmed cases in CA, TX, OK, and NY now.

    I'm getting outside everyday and making sure I get more raw fruits and veggies in my diet, and a glass of OJ every day.

    It'll be interesting to see how far this goes, or if it gets stopped in its tracks like the 1976 swine flu outbreak.

    Although, I am sure it is a different strain. I read that it is genetically similar to human, swine, and avian flu...and the H1N1 swine strain is one they've never encountered.


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    So you have NO depression, thyroid, auto-immune (which doens't meant you get colds or flus), anxiety, confusion?

    If so, you are a lucky one!
    I was depressed but that was due to a traumatic experience that occured a few years back. Other than that, I don't have auto-immune, thyroid, anxiety or confusion. I just don't get sick anymore. I recall feeling a little sick from a flu shot I took years ago, but it just felt like flu symptoms and didn't even last 3 days. Beyond that, I was fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verumi View Post
    I'm getting outside everyday and making sure I get more raw fruits and veggies in my diet, and a glass of OJ every day.

    It'll be interesting to see how far this goes, or if it gets stopped in its tracks like the 1976 swine flu outbreak.

    Although, I am sure it is a different strain. I read that it is genetically similar to human, swine, and avian flu...and the H1N1 swine strain is one they've never encountered.
    There is so much out there and with the air being the quality it is, I have bought the nasal air filters. When you look up and see a woven pattern above you of chemicals, you know you've got to do what you can to reduce the volume inhaled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpinla View Post
    There is so much out there and with the air being the quality it is, I have bought the nasal air filters. When you look up and see a woven pattern above you of chemicals, you know you've got to do what you can to reduce the volume inhaled.


    Oh, take a picture for us with your nasal filters in... I'll take one when they come in. I ordered online. We can make it the new cool trend.

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