Did Jesus die on the Cross?

[Kilik]

So most historians believe Jesus Christ was an actual man who really existed. And we know the things he did and taught have stood the test of time.

The commandment to love thy neighbor as thyself, is so perfect of a law, it is hard to improve upon.

The most famous thing he did was come back from death and conquer death. In history prophets have used the energy of the universe to perform many incredible feats including bringing people back to life. In modern times cardiologists sometimes bring people who had heart attacks back to life by shocking them with electricity, but this uses machines and has to be very soon after the person died. So this may be hard to accept for some people that a master could bring someone back to life with life energy.

So there is a theory that in fact Jesus did not die on the cross. Remember that he was taken down much earlier than a person was normally supposed to be on the cross, and for some reason they didn't break his legs like they usually do when they take someone down. Then, when he was put in his tomb, the herbs the disciples brought with them were not funerary herbs, but medicinal ones. We know the order Jesus originally came from, the Essenes, were experts in the use of the medicinal properties of plants.

BBC Documentary examining this issue-
YouTube - Did Jesus died ? Part 1
YouTube - Did Jesus died ? Part 2
YouTube - Did Jesus died ? Part 3

or another version of the same documentary-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BDZbG7bbAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgzzyd0jbuc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGUiEgsEWGA

and-
YouTube - Jesus in Kashmir,India(BBC Documentry)-1
YouTube - Jesus in Kashmir,India(BBC Documentry)-2
YouTube - Jesus in Kashmir,India(BBC Documentry)-3

[Visioneer]

Believe in what your spirit and soul tells you, don't trust on the word of man...

[rabana]

he did what any trained yogi/adept whatever you want to call it could and would do--lowered or retracted his life force, hung on by a thread, and revived himself with help later on....and got the hell out of there!

[bella]

I think that it is possible he did not die... Most christians would condem a person to hell for thinking so, but that's another issue. I have strong feeling he did not die the cross. It makes sense.

[AmentiHall]

This is a step in the right direction. I will not explain my reasoning or how....but he survived (as it would create controversy).

There are also some stories, that were synthesized together to create the modern "jesus" story that we know today.

Take care

[raztaz12]

Jesus died on the "cross" the constellation... and was reborn 3 days later when the winter was officially over/spring was officially here
silly people... there was no Cross... There was only astrology in play here

[TheFreedomWithin]

Jesus died on the "cross" the constellation... and was reborn 3 days later when the winter was officially over/spring was officially here
silly people... there was no Cross... There was only astrology in play here

he was crusified on the winter solctice(sun stops moving south in the sky), and was reborn when the sun started moving(rising) north in the sky again, yes 3 days later. spring didn't actually start until the spring equinox(easter), which is when his rebirth is celebrated... lol, not to be nitpicky

[raztaz12]

he was crusified on the winter solctice(sun stops moving south in the sky), and was reborn when the sun started moving(rising) north in the sky again, yes 3 days later. spring didn't actually start until the spring equinox(easter), which is when his rebirth is celebrated... lol, not to be nitpicky

Actually the reason why the crucification/resurrection date was moved to April was because it corresponded with the Spring and the "resurrection" of the sun when the daylight finally overtakes the dark. He "died" dec. 25th but it is celebrated in April.
He was born Dec. 25th because of those reasons as well. The sun/son of god was born and brought light into the world on the darkest day

[Mark]

You are so true I read so much history, and you have to take it all in with the mindset that the illuminati/annunaki have been manipulating virtually every form of media.
they add facts and remove facts the best bet is read ALOT and look for consistancies among different organisations. if you see that all agree on same subject it might be true.
just try to do what you feel is right and it doesnt really matter if jesus existed or not
we really have no way of knowing and we were intended to know for sure we would have the ability to KNOW that its true.
Just like when you knew you were phsycic and you see the crazy man with the crystal ball on tv it makes you feel bad or that its just your imagination.
and you Knew it was real because you felt it.
Its a time of war and no one can be trusted. but dont get paranoid make sure you get your "Me Time" so you dont go crazy.
and try doing massive research on Illuminatti and freemasonry so you know your adversary and what they believe in. Also look up Alleister Crowley the magician.
I heard He's George "W" Bush's grand daddy on Barbaras side of the family.
But dont be fooled and lured into Freemasonry its called the "Army of Dan" or army of the damned.

[rabana]

the new testament story has him crucified at the jewish passover time (last supper=jewish passover ritual meal)=first full moon after spring equinox, something like that. spring equinox anyway.

the catholic church placed his birth at the winter solstice because they couldn't stop people from celebrating the darkest days anyway, as per the old religions.

[raztaz12]

Exactly! all pagan/astrologically related...

there are hundreds of Gods that follow the same pattern from all over the world and from all times... the egyptian sun god... almost the exact story... born of a virgin dec. 25 etc etc etc

[Kilik]

Jesus died on the "cross" the constellation... and was reborn 3 days later when the winter was officially over/spring was officially here
silly people... there was no Cross... There was only astrology in play here

I don't think it's quite that simple.

[raztaz12]

I don't think it's quite that simple.

Once again... there are hundreds of Sun Gods from all over the world and the history of the world who follow this exact same pattern of events almost identically. Look into it.

[Kilik]

Yeah but just because there are similarities and connections between religions, that doesn't then lead to the conclusion that there was no cross or crucifixion, or that specific accounts of the founders of religions never happened.

[AmentiHall]

I don't agree with Zeitgeists total interpretation of Jesus.

The "sun god" thing was used as a bias to discredit the entire story and events altgoether. Was there manipulation. Yes.

What is to say, both are not true? That there was a specific way of alignment of stars, from which ancient pagans/astrologers alike mapped in their traditions (as ALL is interwoven), which happened to co-incide with the Jesus story?

All patterns within our 3d life re-appear constantly, numbers, objects, geoemtries, sounds, ETC all have "encryption" which are connected to what we perceive as "physical events."

Then, they used both stories and knowledge to create a specific "frequency" or encryption that resonated with people, in order to eventually manipulate the story into one of dis empowerment (instead of empowerment, and spiritual growth as jesus taught).

You see what I'm saying? Both things could be true, that it was a synthesis of pagan gods, ancient sun gods, and also a true story of an enlightened man/avatar. Although the "contemporary" jesus IMO is a cover for another man known as "Christ" or the holder of the "kryst" energy.

For example, crucifiction implies many things. Star alignments, merkaba alignments, grids that have been "taken over," a story in a book, a physical EVENT. The idea of someone being "crucified" has great energetic properties, that I don't think even the romans understood. Just because it's not understood by the humans who did it, doesn't mean there wasn't greater meaning behind the event. This is what alchemy is, the basic understanding of physical, holographic events into the bigger, energetic picture.

Those in our world who took jesus's story, and twisted it to suit their needs, knew full well of this knowledge.

[rabana]

the religion called christianity would be better named paulism.

jesus the example is there for anyone to use. everyone is entitled to their own jesus.

[AmentiHall]

haha

agreed

[Windlift]

I think we were all planted here from other places to see if we could get along and there is life out there....many other life forms

[3DFireStarteR]

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[AmentiHall]

Yea the reality "show" southpark episode, is perhaps the most genius episode of them all. I think they were speaking the truth a bit when they wrote that, picked up on it one day when they were super stoned.