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    define "negative"

    please.

    (added later) if you want, touch on how the word "negative" is used in these threads.


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    There is no such thing as "negative" really. Only a concept that's more or less anchored in one's processes of perception. The more rooted it is in one's "persona" the more negativity one sees.

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    I pretty much view negative as energy that is static, flat, unmoving , and without a higher vibration. Could be a person's persona could be the sort of energy they are putting out (or not.)

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    negative is something that doesn't feel good.
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    Main Entry:
    1neg·a·tive Listen to the pronunciation of 1negative
    Pronunciation:
    \ˈne-gə-tiv\
    Function:
    adjective
    Date:
    15th century

    1 a: marked by denial, prohibition, or refusal <received a negative answer> ; also : marked by absence, withholding, or removal of something positive <the negative motivation of shame — Garrett Hardin> b (1): denying a predicate of a subject or a part of a subject <“no A is B” is a negative proposition>
    (2): denoting the absence or the contradictory of something <nontoxic is a negative term> (3): expressing negation <negative particles such as no and not> c: adverse, unfavorable <the reviews were mostly negative>

    2 a: lacking positive qualities ; especially : disagreeable b: marked by features of hostility, withdrawal, or pessimism that hinder or oppose constructive treatment or development <a negative outlook> <negative criticism> c: promoting a person or cause by criticizing or attacking the competition <ran a negative campaign> <negative advertising>

    3 a (1): less than zero and opposite in sign to a positive number that when added to the given number yields zero <−2 is a negative number> (2): having more outgo than income : constituting a loss <negative cash flow> <negative worth> b: extending or generated in a direction opposite to an arbitrarily chosen regular direction or position <negative angle>

    4 a: being, relating to, or charged with electricity of which the electron is the elementary unit b: having more electrons than protons <a negative ion> c (1): having lower electric potential and constituting the part toward which the current flows from the external circuit <the negative pole> (2): being the electron-emitting electrode of an electron tube

    5 a: not affirming the presence of a condition, substance, or organism suspected to be present ; also : having a test result indicating the absence especially of a condition, substance, or organism <she is HIV negative> b: directed or moving away from a source of stimulation <negative tropism> c: less than the pressure of the atmosphere <negative pressure>

    6: having the light and dark parts in approximately inverse relation to those of the original photographic subject

    7 of a lens: diverging light rays and forming a virtual inverted image
    — neg·a·tive·ly adverb
    — neg·a·tive·ness noun
    — neg·a·tiv·i·ty Listen to the pronunciation of negativity \ˌne-gə-ˈti-və-tē\ noun







    Main Entry:
    2negative
    Function:
    noun
    Date:
    1571

    1 a (1): a reply that indicates the withholding of assent : refusal (2)archaic : a right of veto (3)obsolete : an adverse vote : veto b: a proposition which denies or contradicts another ; especially : the one of a pair of propositions in which negation is expressed

    2 a: something that is the opposite or negation of something else b: drawback, liability

    3 a: an expression (as the word no) of negation or denial b: a negative number

    4: the side that upholds the contradictory proposition in a debate

    5: a negative photographic image on transparent material used for printing positive pictures ; also : the material that carries such an image

    6: a reverse impression taken from a piece of sculpture or ceramics

    7: a negative result (as of a test) <a high rate of false negatives> ; also : a test yielding such a result






    Main Entry:
    3negative
    Function:
    transitive verb
    Inflected Form(s):
    negatived; negativ·ing
    Date:
    1706

    1 a: to refuse assent to b: to reject by or as if by a vote

    2: to demonstrate the falsity of

    3: to deny the truth, reality, or validity of

    4: neutralize, counteract
    He said "Who truly belongs here?"
    "Not I," she said, "I'll lie here with you"

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    guess i'm out of thanks. these words (started another thread for "dark") are used a lot here and i thought it would be interesting to confine and concentrate on them.

    there are profound intellectual admiration points for the longer posts and brownie points for short and concise ones.

    anyone want to touch on how the word "negative" is used in these threads?
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    In general? People use the word "negative" for what makes them feel uncomfortable and what challenges their world view.

    Without exception, every time I see someone mention the word "negative energy" or "negative person" or "negative entity" on these forums, it's always because it challenges them in some way, and they don't like it. They only try to understand it from their point of view and not from another's.

    Even the supposed "negative entities" people encounter. Do you really believe that bullshit? Do you really believe something's out there that's trying to hurt you, but for some reason, can't, even though it's so~ powerful?

    We call what challenges us, what makes us step out of our comfort zones, negative. It's really that simple.

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    negative is sometimes ppls attitude that brings other ppl down it can also be just the ambience of a place u know that feeling when u get somewhere and just something doesnt feel quite right that could be negative could also be anything that causes harm to others or makes other ppl sad in a bad way as to make them depressed I guess thats my opinion on it

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    yeah negative is anything that doesnt fall into the popular veiw of what positive is, if the majority doesnt like something its negative.
    One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds.
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    There is only one source of energy/power. In our dualistic reality we see this energy as negative or positive, but they are flip sides of the same energy - THE SAME COIN.

    The coin will purchase the same amount of power, but it is the WAY you use the power that determines whether it is negative or positive.

    If you are using it selflessly, listening to the universe's guide, the energy will be considered spent in a positive manner, even if the initial results of its use don't SEEM positive, they will lead to a forward step in humanity's evolution.

    If you use it selfishly, to gain your own ends, to gain control over other people and their views, they it will be seen as "negative" energy, even if the initial actions could be perceived as positive when they first come to light.

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    thanks everyone.

    if you want, touch on how the word "negative" is used in these threads.
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    I would like to add that to me a 'negative person' is a pessimist. Someone who always sees the wrong side to something and is complaining about it. Some people's natural instinct is to find wrong in anything they encounter. Especially if it makes someone else happy. Cause they are mad others are happy and feel they have nothing to be happy about.
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    oh hell, I would go with non existent, in truth, anywhere but on this plane. In duality I would say selfish verses selfless. It is all just energy vibrating at different levels.

    In threads anything that does not agree with the thoughts of the one judging the activity or words.


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    everyone is pretty agreed on that--its something to toss at someone who doesn't agree with you.
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    heh negative is a polarity. You can not have negative without positive so I guess it's all dependent on perspective. Someone may call something negative because they do not agree with it morally. It may be negative to them but positive to the person who said it. So without perspective I guess there is no negative or positive. There is just flow.
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    every term has its denotations (dictionary type definition) and connotations (actual usage).

    we do throw these things at each other, often in argument. i want to see what happens when we examine them calmly.

    no arguments yet anyway...
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    Interesting though when one brings the word argument where there is none could be bad ju ju.

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    i presented the word "negative", understood mainly as an adjective, a description, a relative thing or polarity. how about "the negative", a noun, a "place" or "thing", unto itself? what's it like in there?
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    Negative has two meanings. The first one simply means the opposite of something. In this context one might say that men are positive and women are negative. This does not imply that men are good and women are evil, just that they are opposites.

    The second meaning of negative however is the one that is used most often on this site. That is the absence of something. And while easy to confuse, it is very different from the first meaning.

    For example in physics there is either energy or no energy. There is no such thing as negative energy. An absence of energy is considered negative in this context.

    I consider negative energy in people as merely the absence of good energy. Negative people are people who have a void in them lacking goodness. They might suck or take advantage of the goodness of others.

    No one is perfect though, which is why most people are negative at least some of the time. God is the only one who is perfect, without any negativity in him whatsoever.

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