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    Hi all,

    don't know if any of you have tried this but I recently found out about it from Curezone forums a kind soul forwarded it after I shared some of my tales of emotional trauma in early childhood. It seems to work quite well and since I know many of you have been through trauma at some point in childhood I thought some of you may like to try it out.

    http://www.emofree.com/

    There's a number of videos and a free download of the manual on that site. That gives you enough to get started.

    best of luck

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    People who have trauma in their childhoods like I have... with all my experiences in my childhood, build up an emotional block - someone once tried NLP for me to make me less cold about situations... they did me more harm than good.
    They opened up a softer emotion which quite literally makes me a tearful person ever since... I cry when people hurt me emotionally, and it hurts a lot and I cry... I cry when I see beautiful things or hear beautiful music... my emotional blocks prevented all this... the NLP opened it up, and quite personally I find that damaging.
    I went through life experiences - I personally believe as a training mechanism for the mission I will accomplish later on in life... if these emotions are cured, the experiences we went through which were painful and violent becomes null and void and had no meaning (so therefore we suffered for nothing) ... I personally worry that if the future I see comes true, this emotion which was unlocked by this friend of mine who did NLP on me, has made me emotionally weaker, to the point I will be too busy with my own emotions than helping people with theirs in a hard love kind of way - that I used to have.
    Because this unlocked deep empathy for people who experienced what I have and worse, to the point I take on their emotions - and it can be destroying to the weaker indigos out there.

    If the worse case scenario visions come true, then the death, violence, abuse we witnessed and suffered in our lives will not shock or affect us as much as other people who never experienced that - so we become a rock, and we become survivors hardened to those things... if we cure ourselves and release those emotions, I personally feel this can be damaging to our survival in the worse case scenario event.
    this is just my opinion, based on my experiences in the past.
    My friend who did this NLP on me, got not no thanks on this, and he refuses to reverse it on me, when I requested this.
    DONT DREAM IT BE IT!

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    not really sure what NLP is - this is EFT. Are they similar ?

    this works with meridians and shorts / polarity problems in the body electrical system which occurs when emotional trauma occurs.
    "There are hundreds of languages in the world, but a smile speaks them all." - Anonymous
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    I've been using EFT for years for a multitude of things. I find that it clears out excess energy so that I can look at a situation in a more grounded place. It makes me feel clear and for me, I need that from time to time.
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    I wouldn't say that I suffered any childhood trama, I may have suffered from a slight negect though, my mom says sometimes how she used to spend alot of time with my older brother once I was born, because she thought I was so young that it didn't matter so much if she paid attention to me or not cause she didn't think I was developed enough to know the difference, she mentioned once though that I used to giver her these really peircing angry glares. Now don't get my wrong my mum is the greatest in the world, I couldn't live without her so I don't want to be bashing on her or anything, I mean she was the one who got me interested in reading and cultivated my imagination by playing with me, were as all my dad ever could do to show he loved me was tickle me and tease me until I screamed at him cause he was being so damn annoying he was more like haveing another brother than a dad, hahaha. Anyways I had a pretty good childhood, but sometimes its not just our childhoods that haunt us but our past lives. I have lived so many I can hardly count them all, and I know I have had trama throughout them all.
    sometimes we experience trama effects for things we can't even explain.

    Thanx for shareing the video I loved it!!!
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    Dear RavenMother

    I seem to often cry at the drop of a hat,too.

    But supressing ones emotions is NEVER a good thing.(believe me,I've been doing it all my life..)
    The trick is, i think, to allow any and all emotions to come up and to feel them. Feel where the pain is and just experience it as a physical sensation.
    Drop the story about why you're feeling the pain ("i don't deserve it","nobody loves me","i feel so miserable i want to die" etc)
    and usually what will happen is the pain just disappears.
    I also know this is easier said than done. When i'm in my shit,all the knowledge of what to do with it usually goes out the window..

    I think owning and expressing ones emotions is a sign of strength not weakness. I haven't found that becoming softer emotionally has made me less empathic,if anything, it has made me more so. I understand people's pain - i have been there - and i'm therefore better able to help.

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    My therapist uses EFT and other energy therapy techniques. After years of traditional therapy it's what got me beyond my dissociative identities and severe PTSD. Awesome stuff.
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    thanks for the positive input into this thread

    most appreciated

    I have only been using it for a short time so I wasn't sure how effective it is but I will keep at it as it does seem to work - I just have to use it for the various different conditions that are coming to the foreground in my life at the moment, it seems as I deal with one problem that a new problem may come to the foreground perhaps that's the emotional onionskin and how we cure it - one layer at a time - I don't know. My latest onion skin is a pain in my chest on the left side that has been persistent for 2 days now - I hadn't thought this to be emotionally related but now I think could be so I will try the EFT on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patryc View Post
    I just have to use it for the various different conditions that are coming to the foreground in my life at the moment, it seems as I deal with one problem that a new problem may come to the foreground perhaps that's the emotional onionskin and how we cure it - one layer at a time -
    I think I know exactly what you mean about peeling back the layers of the onion. I've just been dealing with a problem with shortness of breath, which I've tracked back to anxiety ... which got triggered by a new situation at work.

    One thing I have learned for sure is that those of us who have really lived through some sort of trauma, especially at an early age ... we have weird stuff crop up in our present-day lives that come about as a part of us working through old stuff from the past. For me, the quicker I simply accept that and work on it, the more quickly I get it done. But sometimes it forces me to be honest about stuff I would just as soon stuff under the rug and not face ... but somehow my unconcious or spirit has figured out that if emotional problems turn physical, I'll deal with them.
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    ya good point - I read somewhere if you leave the emotional stuff there long enough it crystallizes and that's when it turns physical.
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    Hi Patryc
    I heard from a few people how effective EFT is and i used it myself for a short while.Then i came across EmoTrance which was developed by an EFT practitioner.
    http://emotrance.com/modules.php?nam...article&sid=29

    here an article EFT vs EmoTrance:
    http://emotrance.com/modules.php?nam...article&sid=49

    Love to you
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudrocket View Post
    Hi Patryc
    I heard from a few people how effective EFT is and i used it myself for a short while.Then i came across EmoTrance which was developed by an EFT practitioner.
    http://emotrance.com/modules.php?nam...article&sid=29

    here an article EFT vs EmoTrance:
    http://emotrance.com/modules.php?nam...article&sid=49

    Love to you
    thanks cloudrocket

    will check this out
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    What is EFT exactly? Would be nice to have some sort of summary, that website is confusing.
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    there is an introductory into to EFT that explains it quite well - a youtube vid from memory

    check that out

    it's basically like repairing short circuits in the meridians caused by emotional traumatic events, sometimes the polarity of the meridians can be reversed and this causes all sorts of problems and lack of flow to vital organs etc. Look for the intro video or google on youtube.

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    Cold like hell.

    in the morning when its still dark,
    I know the spirits are strong around me
    because it is cold
    cold like hell.
    I can feel them touching me
    icy hands along my spine
    like ghosts
    they are beautiful
    but sad, cold
    cold like hell
    I want to help them
    but their are too many to help them all
    I love them, because they are helping me
    but it so cold
    cold like hell
    I am waiting for the morning.
    the morning when everyone else will be awake
    the morning when everyone else will feel the warmth
    but for now
    I know that the best place is here
    because here I am needed
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    here is like home.
    home is so far away. Daylight is in my heart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patryc View Post
    Hi all,

    don't know if any of you have tried this but I recently found out about it from Curezone forums a kind soul forwarded it after I shared some of my tales of emotional trauma in early childhood. It seems to work quite well and since I know many of you have been through trauma at some point in childhood I thought some of you may like to try it out.

    http://www.emofree.com/

    There's a number of videos and a free download of the manual on that site. That gives you enough to get started.

    best of luck

    namaste

    Patryc
    OH MY WORD Patryc....My mother's chiropractor told her about that recently and she bugged me for MONTHS before I was finally able to get her all signed up. She was the first person I heard about it from......you are only the second. LOL Now I wanna try it myself!
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    I have the full video ''course'', it works. I definately recommend it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudrocket View Post
    Dear RavenMother



    But supressing ones emotions is NEVER a good thing.(believe me,I've been doing it all my life..)


    Much Love

    Ummm ... Never Ha... maybe I'm afraid of my emotions but i find they often do not serve me or others well.
    First of all emotions are usually blinding and self serving... my pain, my loss, my good fortune , i hurt, i want, i feel, i'm sad, mad, whatever the ego feels.
    This often leads reasonable intelligent people to do really dumb, mean or thoughtless thing that affect and can hurt other people... a kinda suspension of reason to indulge thoughtless emotionalism...
    If you want to deal with a critical , threatening or other peak situation, you better save your emotionalism till later or you my not have a later.
    Maybe its just me but emotionalism seemed an encumberence to holding the clear light of realization and enlightenment... leading to lower relmes of conciousness, ego, and rebirth... to a baser level.
    Still learning
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