please an answer: why people dont understand what indigos & crystals experience?

[Indigo Traveler]

I know is a question we all did try to answer at least ones, twice, many times until we arrived to the conclusion...is no possible, will not happend...we are other type of beings...without people able to experience what we do...no way for them to understand...what intensity we feel!

I wonder, find it always a challenge...sometimes a relief...but recently was bottering me really.

I was working alot, on past hard times, received help, and got to face and release old deep pain recently....I consider it, my process, recently, a good work...i really needed it.

Then publish an article, becouse need to face the problem in a public way, mabe, actually look for a lawyer, and so on... is a challenge that still somehow exist in the concrete world.

Then I got people who did talk to me, reacted to my letter and experience i shared, starting also from close friends and ex girfriend...very close in time to me....

my experience at: http://www.danielmaldonadofonken.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1756

To be forced by yourself to live abroad becouse you have been tortured and abused, is not a game, is not a joke, is a serious thing when you ahve been ahrmed, and neve got protection, but need to care yourself by yourself alone.......it was hard, and sometimes i wish people will just respect, and understand, was difficult, painfulll

but not, what i get are questions, doubts....morbid interest, curiosity...lack of respect...

What i get from most of them:

Doubt....

Doubt that is possible to survive, to integrate, to process all this pain, and still be loving and joyfull and happy and alife.

Why doubt...why ?

maybe becouse they dont want to work on their own pain, still? maybe...

some times i hear them saying: "OH... is no possible that any human with such kind of experience can end up like you,a productive and creative man...", "for sure didint ahd to be that hard experience for sou, maybe that bad experience never happened to you!"

I feel angry...

I was not tottaly destroyed, after all these events in mylife. I am happy then, is for me a success, i survived, was hard, difficult, horrible, i did suffer alot.....but then, i experienced always a light and awareness inside me....then knew all will be fine, will be a change .... and ones i will turn the wheel into another direction, and all wll be fine again.


When i feel the pain, and the agression, ignorant agression of the people who did atack me, i know is hard to live with that, to make the best after all...to be able to really grow up in love and knowledge and also do a nice life.

Becouse i am still positive (and not depressed), becouse i still can smile (and dont cry every day) people dont believe it happened to me...they espect i have to be tottly destroyed ....and becouse i am not, then that means didint happend to me anything.

I dont know how to feel...

I feel angry.... i dont need o convince anybody, about whyt every happened... but sometiems i just need to share tehe xperience, to ym lawyer, to a friend, to an official human rights organization office, to any body....to my girlfriend.

Is not that i need them to recognize me in any way, but some times i need some official papaers, some understanding of my situation, just some respect....then, it seems i have to cry and create some drama at the offices, or infrpont of friends who ask me about the story, that they end up satisfied....OH, daniel really had a trauma..

Need to cry, scream...Otherwise they never believe i was really harmed.

I actually never did that, cry or scream just to convince any body, i am not here to conince anybody..just to be myself and walk my path....but people always ask, always curious, never satisfy..want to chck i was hrmed or not...then esopect from me not to be able to keep living..if they find something like that, then, they are happy...

insane world....instead of being happy did survive it...

like in the Rome cirque, they just have fun and want to trust hooror, drama, pain, suffering...not the capacity to transfrom everything with love, spiritual love

Recently my exgirlfriend told me: " you look fine, i dont thing you had really a trauma"

Sure...i did work hard on healing it...you...%$'#!

Is amazing, i feel even a kind of lack of respect when somebody say: "oh, is a lie, inidgos dont get any pain, any challenge, is just in their heads..."

Is possible that people reject the possibility that indigo can process so much pain, proces and clean thsi planet...and even that still be alife...and want to live....?

Some people even told me: " they will for sure think to harm themselves if had to fight so many years for living after an experience as i had."

What a stupid idea, inidgos, we just do the opposite: we survive and change the patterns of the colective mind, we show what is realyl possible to do...

Then, if i am fine, and still can enjoy life..... but if i sreally so, that means for them, i am exagerating, is not true.....

You know, sometimes, people react and care for you only when you are at the last bottom line, when they can feel they are superior, that you have been defeated....

Sometimes i wish people will respect more if i say: "hey, is not easy, some times is hard...." but they dont believe....

If people still find you have a kind of strong attitude and still free and alife.. then they will not consider you need help, support, companion, or any thing.... i dont mean now...but...


Or just teh oposite, they realize you are meant to suvive...then they put all their heavy stuff on you....in addition.

This world is upside down.....

And are we meant to make it better?

If ones we make it better, probably people will also dont even notice.....

What a dilema....why you work hard on this way, for this planeta nd for yourself, while people will dont notice....

Not looking for recognition, but just aking myself...do we need normal people to identify how is Inidg-crystal life...how hard could be...maybe not really.

I know, i am in a kind of asking, answering, complaining in a circular way....just please, aloud me to do so....

tomorrow or in two hours all will feel fine again....is just now, i have to open this thread...and write about how i feel

Maybe, you will give some wise thoughts about this toypc and experience....

>why people dont understand?
>will people understad?
>will people ever believe what we say we experience?
>will people trust ever, even they cannot experience the same?
>will we make a change, for us or for them too?
>if all change...who will feel better and notice something changed:...we ...and.... they too?

maybe you ahve another answer....

[Indigo Traveler]

ANother case?

http://indigosociety.com/studying-an...html#post26469

[Mirri]

Hellllllllo
When you can function in society, and when you look normal.,
people think you have no problems.

When it looks oke, everything is oke they think.

People will never know when an actor is really good in his job.
I understand you want others to believe you.
Some will never believe you, cause they dont want to see the truth.
When you need to scream, scream.
when you want to cry, cry
And laugh in the middle.

The truth sets free. There are no secrets, although people like to play that game. In the end the winners are the ones that speak their truths and be honest to themself.

It´s courageous to speak your truth ut loud, caue it will change you and set you free. With that you give others permission to be free and speak their truth.

We have to make the bridge to the others. We have to explain in their words why we feel as we feel. We have to learn their language if we want to be understood. We can learn them how to speak our language.

The most people who have a trauma don´t cry every day. They just go to work and do their jobs. Know one will ever know. I mean one look in my classroom says enough. Most people don´t see that and want to take care of people who are helpless. Drama is also a creation of the human.
You can be as depressed as anything and in pain and say: I am going to be fine. You have to teach others how to help you. So you are the one that has to allow the help and allow others to understand you, you are the bridge. And some will never get you or me or others. Fine, thats their road, than just look for other people walking the same road as you. There you will find your true family, than words aren't needed anymore.

It's the difference in vibration and level that makes that people simply cannot or don't want to get crystals and indigo's. Its to scary for them to take responsibility for their own creations, they want to live in their illusions. Some want to break out of that and reach out with a hand. Other choose different. The only constant in the universe is change, so now its like this and tomorrow it will be different.

Just trust yourself!!!!

Thanx for sharing!

love,
Mirri(

[blacklight]

I believe you. Many people have had traumas. I guess more just choose to hide it. But what doesn't kill you makes you stronger right? When I have the resources, I will fight the cause of the trauma that made me stronger on a world scale.

I guess it's better to know that these things happen to people rather than be ignorant. The knowledge we bring to others will help bring more to common sense, so less unwanted traumas can be had.

It's nice though, that you can carry on with life.

[TheRavenMother]

Because people are still too focused in religion and reliance with a higher being, than accepting that they too can reach that potential. It is hard for them to stomach that they can control their own fates, heal themselves etc - because when faced with this, they feel alone and that it is them who can get them out of things - some people do better when they know they can rely on someone else - even if there is no proof that someone exists, it just makes them feel better about themselves and gives them a sense of purpose to continue living - even in a life of lies.

[serapj]

It is because we are in the higher level of thinking now.

I agree with TheRavenMother, people are still too focused in religion and that they do not follow what they believe. They are not as observant as we do. They are just not aware of the things around them. One thing I notice about them is that they do not question much like we do, not realizing the cause/source and only sees the effects.

I have a female Christian friend and we get into conversation about religion and beliefs, but she was just not open to what I said about her. Hehe, I even told her that we are angels, but she doesn't even agree with me. She believes that we came from Adam and Eve who are human and that we cannot be possibly be angels.

We can however go down to their level of thinking but it is no longer acceptable to us.

To end the conversation about beliefs, I just agree to her and thank her of her advices. I don't want to mess what she believes, for she is also in the right direction. The only difference is that we know more and aware than they do.

It's just recent and I've just written this in my blog, what I notice about her.

[Marie]

I know is a question we all did try to answer at least ones, twice, many times until we arrived to the conclusion...is no possible, will not happend...we are other type of beings...without people able to experience what we do...no way for them to understand...what intensity we feel!

I wonder, find it always a challenge...sometimes a relief...but recently was bottering me really.

I was working alot, on past hard times, received help, and got to face and release old deep pain recently....I consider it, my process, recently, a good work...i really needed it.

Then publish an article, becouse need to face the problem in a public way, mabe, actually look for a lawyer, and so on... is a challenge that still somehow exist in the concrete world.

Then I got people who did talk to me, reacted to my letter and experience i shared, starting also from close friends and ex girfriend...very close in time to me....

my experience at: http://www.danielmaldonadofonken.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1756

To be forced by yourself to live abroad becouse you have been tortured and abused, is not a game, is not a joke, is a serious thing when you ahve been ahrmed, and neve got protection, but need to care yourself by yourself alone.......it was hard, and sometimes i wish people will just respect, and understand, was difficult, painfulll

but not, what i get are questions, doubts....morbid interest, curiosity...lack of respect...

What i get from most of them:

Doubt....

Doubt that is possible to survive, to integrate, to process all this pain, and still be loving and joyfull and happy and alife.

Why doubt...why ?

maybe becouse they dont want to work on their own pain, still? maybe...

some times i hear them saying: "OH... is no possible that any human with such kind of experience can end up like you,a productive and creative man...", "for sure didint ahd to be that hard experience for sou, maybe that bad experience never happened to you!"

I feel angry...

I was not tottaly destroyed, after all these events in mylife. I am happy then, is for me a success, i survived, was hard, difficult, horrible, i did suffer alot.....but then, i experienced always a light and awareness inside me....then knew all will be fine, will be a change .... and ones i will turn the wheel into another direction, and all wll be fine again.


When i feel the pain, and the agression, ignorant agression of the people who did atack me, i know is hard to live with that, to make the best after all...to be able to really grow up in love and knowledge and also do a nice life.

Becouse i am still positive (and not depressed), becouse i still can smile (and dont cry every day) people dont believe it happened to me...they espect i have to be tottly destroyed ....and becouse i am not, then that means didint happend to me anything.

I dont know how to feel...

I feel angry.... i dont need o convince anybody, about whyt every happened... but sometiems i just need to share tehe xperience, to ym lawyer, to a friend, to an official human rights organization office, to any body....to my girlfriend.

Is not that i need them to recognize me in any way, but some times i need some official papaers, some understanding of my situation, just some respect....then, it seems i have to cry and create some drama at the offices, or infrpont of friends who ask me about the story, that they end up satisfied....OH, daniel really had a trauma..

Need to cry, scream...Otherwise they never believe i was really harmed.

I actually never did that, cry or scream just to convince any body, i am not here to conince anybody..just to be myself and walk my path....but people always ask, always curious, never satisfy..want to chck i was hrmed or not...then esopect from me not to be able to keep living..if they find something like that, then, they are happy...

insane world....instead of being happy did survive it...

like in the Rome cirque, they just have fun and want to trust hooror, drama, pain, suffering...not the capacity to transfrom everything with love, spiritual love

Recently my exgirlfriend told me: " you look fine, i dont thing you had really a trauma"

Sure...i did work hard on healing it...you...%$'#!

Is amazing, i feel even a kind of lack of respect when somebody say: "oh, is a lie, inidgos dont get any pain, any challenge, is just in their heads..."

Is possible that people reject the possibility that indigo can process so much pain, proces and clean thsi planet...and even that still be alife...and want to live....?

Some people even told me: " they will for sure think to harm themselves if had to fight so many years for living after an experience as i had."

What a stupid idea, inidgos, we just do the opposite: we survive and change the patterns of the colective mind, we show what is realyl possible to do...

Then, if i am fine, and still can enjoy life..... but if i sreally so, that means for them, i am exagerating, is not true.....

You know, sometimes, people react and care for you only when you are at the last bottom line, when they can feel they are superior, that you have been defeated....

Sometimes i wish people will respect more if i say: "hey, is not easy, some times is hard...." but they dont believe....

If people still find you have a kind of strong attitude and still free and alife.. then they will not consider you need help, support, companion, or any thing.... i dont mean now...but...


Or just teh oposite, they realize you are meant to suvive...then they put all their heavy stuff on you....in addition.

This world is upside down.....

And are we meant to make it better?

If ones we make it better, probably people will also dont even notice.....

What a dilema....why you work hard on this way, for this planeta nd for yourself, while people will dont notice....

Not looking for recognition, but just aking myself...do we need normal people to identify how is Inidg-crystal life...how hard could be...maybe not really.

I know, i am in a kind of asking, answering, complaining in a circular way....just please, aloud me to do so....

tomorrow or in two hours all will feel fine again....is just now, i have to open this thread...and write about how i feel

Maybe, you will give some wise thoughts about this toypc and experience....

>why people dont understand?
>will people understad?
>will people ever believe what we say we experience?
>will people trust ever, even they cannot experience the same?
>will we make a change, for us or for them too?
>if all change...who will feel better and notice something changed:...we ...and.... they too?

maybe you ahve another answer....

How are we all explaining it? and what do we mean, when we say that people "don't understand". Is it because our expectations or hopes of how they might react are not met? Plus, how much are we explaining to them at once eg if you think about learning maths for example, you wouldn't go straight tro learning calculus for example. No, you would begin with smaller levels first and then build onto higher levels, when you have built the foundations within yourself.

I think/suspect that some people might find it interesting to look at an older thread re " explaining to others that you are an indigo".

Marie

[Indigo Traveler]

Hi Mirri

Thank you

Well, is not necessary people believ us....

but only when we need to communicate the truth, in a situation a fedback and reaction (action) in a collective is necessary.

for example, very simple, you breack a leg, an dpeople dont believ you, becouse you integrate the pain, and keep walking.

as you said, people is used to dont see neither perceive but asume reality

we can go veyound, is we start for example to dont asume "indigo" but perceive it, manifest it and be it!

Hellllllllo
When you can function in society, and when you look normal.,
people think you have no problems.

When it looks oke, everything is oke they think.

People will never know when an actor is really good in his job.
I understand you want others to believe you.
Some will never believe you, cause they dont want to see the truth.
When you need to scream, scream.
when you want to cry, cry
And laugh in the middle.

The truth sets free. There are no secrets, although people like to play that game. In the end the winners are the ones that speak their truths and be honest to themself.

It´s courageous to speak your truth ut loud, caue it will change you and set you free. With that you give others permission to be free and speak their truth.

We have to make the bridge to the others. We have to explain in their words why we feel as we feel. We have to learn their language if we want to be understood. We can learn them how to speak our language.

The most people who have a trauma don´t cry every day. They just go to work and do their jobs. Know one will ever know. I mean one look in my classroom says enough. Most people don´t see that and want to take care of people who are helpless. Drama is also a creation of the human.
You can be as depressed as anything and in pain and say: I am going to be fine. You have to teach others how to help you. So you are the one that has to allow the help and allow others to understand you, you are the bridge. And some will never get you or me or others. Fine, thats their road, than just look for other people walking the same road as you. There you will find your true family, than words aren't needed anymore.

It's the difference in vibration and level that makes that people simply cannot or don't want to get crystals and indigo's. Its to scary for them to take responsibility for their own creations, they want to live in their illusions. Some want to break out of that and reach out with a hand. Other choose different. The only constant in the universe is change, so now its like this and tomorrow it will be different.

Just trust yourself!!!!

Thanx for sharing!

love,
Mirri(

[Quiet Knight]

Being LDS, Mormon, we believe we are in the image of God, and as God's children, we are capable of becoming like him; if we do what it takes. We believe as God is now, we may become, and as God once was, we are now.


That does not change his authority as God over us; he will always be our Heavenly Father, and he will always be so. If we are worthy, one day we will have our own kingdoms, and create planets and children and populate them, just like he has done with us.

If it is so here on earth, why would any different design be above. There is only one light, one God. God builds and creates, and pulls all things to one commonality. The dark divides and separates and seeks to contend and deceive. When you realize this basic fact, it is not hard to tell what is light and what is dark.