Apocalypse, or shall we say revelation.
What is unknown or hidden yet destined to be revealed.
I say this to you companions of truth, we are determined as human beings, thus becoming what we desire to define ourselves to be. But, when the end of being occurs, what will become of the mystery that we are destined to be.
The end of the world, so many speak of this as an event that will one day occur, yet each day is filled by an hour were the sands of time symbolize the human life. Come now 6 pounds of dust is the average reduction of your human being and it can be synthesized into a diamond. A diamond that is an allotrope of carbon. The atomic weight of carbon is 6. How simple is complexed carbon lifeforms? Surely understand what I say to you. That diamonds correspond to the deep ultraviolent wavelength. Diamonds of "divine" quality emit a colorless light, a pure glamour of hardness. But in you I see petty conflict, so for now I shall regards you as a conflict diamond.
The end of you is death. Death is the end of you. This is the profound certainty that life gives you. What does death reveal to you?
You are dying now and so you are dead. You are fighting to see life.
Are we carrion beast. We consume death to sustain us.
Is the end of the world the end of you, or is the end of you the end of your world. To those that deny the spirit, but worship the flesh and carnal life, you will truly die. I hear and read the doubt in your words. The vain of ego says to you that you will live on as a god, and you say this without understanding your reduction into dust, to ash, to a fragment of conflict. How so many covet diamonds. How so many covet the six pound of dust.
Oh how this life is so coveted. Put the body or the dust or the diamond into the coffin that has six angles.
In death you can not avoid your number.
Let it be said that in death you will understand that you are the beast and your number is 6.
Apocalypse the reveal, the lifting of the veil. Death offers you the sight that is blinded by this life.
Now some will say that they are alive now, because their heart beats and their brain thinks. What does your soul say? Does your soul speak to your body? Does you mind and heart speak to your soul?
The veil will be lifted to what you shall become tomorrow, but understand that today you shall no longer remain forever. Have you become better for tomorrow on today, or do you still what to do better tomorrow?
Let us not debate about the end of creation, when you are missing the point of existing. The begining of becoming and existing occurs after creating. I point this out to you. If you tell me that you are creating/building a car, and eventually you will have a car...does that imply you are destined to exist only as a driver of a car?
I wonder what is destined for those that create or build an ego. I am, or to be. I say to you dissect and dismantle your ego not by letting go, rather by embrassing the spirit. And what will become of those that are building their soul...notice that absence of creation.
The spirit of life, the reveal, the salvation. You live today but are you aware of the living spirit. You speak and teach today but have you listened for the words of the spirit.
I read so much and understand very little of this conflict. A conflict of life, between the heart and mind of you all. The hearts that love their only begotten yet show little regards to his only begotten. The minds that are thoughtful of sorrow and misery, yet are absent minded of his suffering.
The god-childeren of the ungodly that spit at each other while alive to show their godliness, their awe of being dead.
To my kindred spirits, the aliens amongst humans, the humans amongst gods.
Speak the kindess of the light that awakens you at dawn.
Speak the enchantment of the illumination that penetrates the dark.
And whisper into this meridian called life as an echo which will live on forever in his name.
Go with Peace and see the end of you, and the beginning of Us.
Love the love of those that loves you while loving each other in words and with thoughts of love.
Make today be the end of you; so that tomorrow you can become.
And forever we shall exist!
Last edited by Cypher; 08-17-2009 at 03:25 AM.
My first inclination is to reiterate 5 and 23 are my numbers.
I have little concern of endings or beginnings, it is not mine to wait for either to occur. I walk as I am told by my Holy Father. I sit as I am told by my Holy Father. If He wants me to find understanding, He will bring me to it by His design. I am content to walk at the pace. Or set as stasis at His whim. To know the Will of God and become dust or diamond, leaven or unleaven, 6 or 9? Each has a quality of the other.
I am already 6lbs of dust, just as I am already rendered a diamond from that dust. I am already alive, just as I have already grasped the hand of comfort in the profound dark; with a cord of understanding wrapped around the other hand.
Today is eternity. Tomorrow is eternal.
I am still
Galatians 5:23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
Last edited by tmt; 08-17-2009 at 11:45 PM.
In my hands I hold a candle whose flame is small to see,
And if I give but one light to you my life is filled for me.
But...In your hands you hold a torch for many eyes to see,
So hold it high that they may light their candlewicks from thee...Lumi
- By Faye
Cypher (08-18-2009)
awesome post tmt
tmt (08-18-2009)
Thanks Cypher
I screwed it up a bit though, what I said originally was 'I came with 5. I am 9 and 23.'
Galatians 5:9 *"A little yeast works through the whole batch of dough."
Galatians 5:23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
I guess I should just edit the original post. But it is a nice reminder for me. There is always room to grow.
I really liked your stirring words Cypher. But for those words, I would have missed this interpretation of myself. I should have saved that funny little description I gave you, of my point of origion. I would like to reread the whole of my exact phrasing.
In my hands I hold a candle whose flame is small to see,
And if I give but one light to you my life is filled for me.
But...In your hands you hold a torch for many eyes to see,
So hold it high that they may light their candlewicks from thee...Lumi
- By Faye
moments before the last apocalypse:
"I, therefore, the perfect Pronoia of the all, changed myself into my seed, for I existed first, going on every road. For I am the richness of the light; I am the remembrance of the pleroma.
"And I went into the realm of darkness and I endured till I entered the middle of the prison. And the foundations of chaos shook. And I hid myself from them because of their wickedness, and they did not recognize me.
"Again I returned for the second time, and I went about. I came forth from those who belong to the light, which is I, the remembrance of the Pronoia. I entered into the midst of darkness and the inside of Hades, since I was seeking (to accomplish) my task. And the foundations of chaos shook, that they might fall down upon those who are in chaos and might destroy them. And again I ran up to my root of light, lest they be destroyed before the time.
"Still for a third time I went - I am the light which exists in the light, I am the remembrance of the Pronoia - that I might enter into the midst of darkness and the inside of Hades. And I filled my face with the light of the completion of their aeon. And I entered into the midst of their prison, which is the prison of the body. And I said, 'He who hears, let him get up from the deep sleep.' And he wept and shed tears. Bitter tears he wiped from himself and he said, 'Who is it that calls my name, and from where has this hope come to me, while I am in the chains of the prison?' And I said, 'I am the Pronoia of the pure light; I am the thinking of the virginal Spirit, who raised you up to the honored place. Arise and remember that it is you who hearkened, and follow your root, which is I, the merciful one, and guard yourself against the angels of poverty and the demons of chaos and all those who ensnare you, and beware of the deep sleep and the enclosure of the inside of Hades.
"And I raised him up, and sealed him in the light of the water with five seals, in order that death might not have power over him from this time on.
"And behold, now I shall go up to the perfect aeon. I have completed everything for you in your hearing. And I have said everything to you that you might write them down and give them secretly to your fellow spirits, for this is the mystery of the immovable race."
The Apocryphon of John (nag hammadi)
do you recognize the ligthbringer?
The Menorah
The golden candlestick or menorah (Exodus 25:31-40) represents light and illumination, so it symbolizes divine understanding of the Word, the next level of insight and revelation where Word and Spirit are one.* At this point, you are becoming able to see and apply the Word whenever and wherever it is needed.
The Golden Candlestick (The Holy Place) – Prayer – Part 13 Oilofthespirit’s Weblog
In my hands I hold a candle whose flame is small to see,
And if I give but one light to you my life is filled for me.
But...In your hands you hold a torch for many eyes to see,
So hold it high that they may light their candlewicks from thee...Lumi
- By Faye
Cypher (08-19-2009)
I may be derailing your thread, Cypher, I will talk Menorah further in separate thread but it just resonated so strongly with your words.![]()
Last edited by tmt; 08-19-2009 at 09:06 AM.
In my hands I hold a candle whose flame is small to see,
And if I give but one light to you my life is filled for me.
But...In your hands you hold a torch for many eyes to see,
So hold it high that they may light their candlewicks from thee...Lumi
- By Faye
Tell me attentive ears what words can not explain your existence,
and if you still exist within the ineffable how should you then be defined.
I understand these words that follow will be understood by some and discarded by many. That is my choice. Nevertheless, I speak not to the critic, nor to the disbeliever. Let my words find those that are becoming aware of selflessness.
Have you ever imagined the degree of blinds which resides within. Close your eyes and picture "passion" or "anger" or too some romantics "love".
Your mind draws on the subjective experience of perception and association. This perception follows a cognitive development that is shaped as if it were clay according to accociation and experience. You can not cognitively escape it. It is a mechanism of mind control. A control that penetrates the anatomy of your insight.
You see fire and you think heat, burning, and warmth.
You see snow and you consider cold, frost, and chilling.
Have you considered the notion of qualia.
Allow me to remit to the following as words for mental exercise. These quotes were take from one of the most phenomenal metaphysical novels turned movies...
"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion." (Dune)
So I ask you by what will can motion become motionless? When can you still the mind?
This task of search for the calm in life occurs after calamity. It becomes the evolution of mind and body.
So many choose to escape this dichotomy, only to realize that an escape of such becomes a liberating escape of the soul.
The soul, an example of quale or a spiritual experience illustrates the existence of qualia.
Dear companions of truth ask yourself is your existence nonsense, and if it is of some sense, is it confined even tot he sixith sense.
Look to your loved one and ask them to describe your existence without analogy. The can see but do the know.
See if they can explain a something from nothing. Surely you exist and you are something, but your existence will not find a presence upon the words that exist their mouth.
See how quick they search throughout their subjective perception for a description of something outside of their perception.
So what are you called, what is your character, how are you to be measured?
I say this to you, are your "fathers" child, when will you see it, when will you become it, when shall you believe it?
So I ask you sincerely, what do you call something that exist, but can not be percieved without the experience of sense?
Take care of your self.
sukayna (11-19-2009)
I have considered sine qua sine. I have never considered qualia, I will have to look up the word and ponder it.
In sine qua sine. It is the statement of a factor that exists because it is a factor. Love exists because we feel love and in the microcosm, no love exists unless we know it or until we know it by the experience itself. Qua is an enignimatic and stilling concept. An area that is perfected by being in and of itself. I have been grappling with the 'qua' expression or relation of thought and being for some time. Thank you, Cypher for expanding on this area of thought. I will study it and relay what I glean.![]()
In my hands I hold a candle whose flame is small to see,
And if I give but one light to you my life is filled for me.
But...In your hands you hold a torch for many eyes to see,
So hold it high that they may light their candlewicks from thee...Lumi
- By Faye
so pretty much what you said is like. Just a spiritual spin on what we do everyday. What makes this so specials ? I hope you know I am being a bit of sarcastic here. tbh I agreed with 99 percent of what you said if not all.
Last edited by Azure Prince; 08-29-2009 at 04:53 PM.
"So I ask you sincerely, what do you call something that exist, but can not be percieved without the experience of sense?" ( to answer cyper)
At first glance i would say "nothing"....in deeper thought...i would question the human mind as you did my friend...and here i will say there are more thing that humans cant fathom than there are things they can even with senses wide open....so going with that notion...i will say...something thats exists but can not be percieved without the experience of sense? is "out of range"
xxx
goddess is laughing right now, having never seen this one before.
qualia is the key to much, indeed. and the nature of qualia is a quantum thing.
hilarity ensues, surely.
There are two ways to die in this life:
Starvation kills the body;
Consumption kills the mind.
Beautifully said
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and Illuminates the halls of darkness with echoes of insight.
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