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loyalty, trust and happiness «  » by Aaron Benjamin
is loyalty neccesary in a marriage in order to experience a) love b) happiness etc.?
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«  » by Indigo Dog
It is in my marriage.
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«  » by Aaron Benjamin
b.c., what are you talking about? btw: are you talking to me?
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«  » by Aaron Benjamin
it seems to me that someone is saying that modesty in marriage is part of the noahide laws and that all people on the planet will become noahides, however supernatural intervention methods will be implemented in order to increase people's overall sense of happiness and well being etc., as has already been the case in the past in many instances as well, based on what i have been told. i want to say thank you to hashem our g*d for the continuation of this process which seems to be increasing in optimism, a feeling of more potential for health, wealth (consciousness etc.), an improvement in my (our) quality of life and positivity etc. g*d willing, amen.
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«  » by Dazed'nd'Confuzed
Loyalty.. isnt that an expression of love?

If someone aint loyal, they simply dont love.

Love breaths loayalty.. if theres no loyalty theres no love.
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«  » by Aaron Benjamin
[QUOTE=Dazed'nd'Confuzed;503336]Loyalty.. isnt that an expression of love?

If someone aint loyal, they simply dont love.

Love breaths loayalty.. if theres no loyalty theres no love.[/QUOTE]

is confusion a requirement of loyalty too?
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«  » by Aaron Benjamin
so, what the fu*k do you want?
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«  » by Tess
iam married 23 yers and very happy i can say that if you are holding it up as some kind of rule and making th other person wrong with it you will fail. If you are having that agreement as two sane people who know what doing otherwise will cause too much hurt to bother with its cool, What a good marriage is all about is focusing on the postive aspects of the other person. That gives you real love and freedom
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«  » by Grandma Lola
Oh my Tess, that was quite nice.

I agree with all of it and would add that giving each other what ever space they need to be happy and healthy and to share their lives with many other people is also necessary for a happy and secure marriage. In other words, no possessiveness, no jealousy, no paranoia toward your partner. Feeling wonderful when your partner is having a good time with someone else even if you are not along, simply because you know they are having a good time and that makes you happy.
These things breed loyalty and fidelity
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«  » by Aaron Benjamin
Grandma Lola wrote:Oh my Tess, that was quite nice.

I agree with all of it and would add that giving each other what ever space they need to be happy and healthy and to share their lives with many other people is also necessary for a happy and secure marriage. In other words, no possessiveness, no jealousy, no paranoia toward your partner. Feeling wonderful when your partner is having a good time with someone else even if you are not along, simply because you know they are having a good time and that makes you happy.
These things breed loyalty and fidelity


something about this sounds questionable to me
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«  » by Grandma Lola
This kind of relationship requires you to have your own individual identity and it requires trust of yourself and trust of another. It requires unconditional love and acceptance.

We have been married for 25 years because we love and trust each other...it's that simple.

Maybe it is questionable to you because you are not up to the task at this point.

To love someone does not equal owning them.
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«  » by Aaron Benjamin
this is torah based love?
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«  » by Grandma Lola
This is love based love...I dont know any other kind of love.
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«  » by SteVo
If you can't trust someone to be loyal how are you going to be happy with them? I would never advise anyone to get married to someone they can't trust when out of sight.
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