what is natural?

[weareone]

in our age we have things being labeled as "all natural" and the rest of it is left out. natural this natural that, and supposedly the idea is that natural is bettor.

from these ideas it would seem one even might call human beings themselves unnatural

so what is it that makes something natural

personally i feel it is how flow something has. i know that doesnt make sense but its what i can do with these words

what is nature?
what is natural?
what i unnatural?

[anthony]

sometimes those "natural" products contain nightmarish shit. You have to consider who the fuck is calling this shit "natural". There is a demand for more natural products now days, so we must beware of bullshistters, soothsayers, and people bending the word "natural" to their own interpretation for the love of increased profits. You know when some food products say "natural ingredients"...those are sometimes animal products, if i am corrent, from what i read. Animals, being natural...they fukn say that shit. wtf. So...u knwo...i try to stick to just fruits and veggies and whole grains...fuck all the rest. i dont even trust the "organic" sticker fully. who the fuck is saying it is organic? The USDA. If you trust the USDA, god have mercy upon you.

I know this does not answer your q. Just wanted to say it.

[sshenry]

Interesting. I would have to say that in truth if something exists in nature - then it is natural. This would include even some weird crap that one wouldn't normally agree to put into one's body.

When chemical companies start getting involved - yellow dye #3 or whatever - then I would have to say that it is definitely "unnatural". For a lot of good information on this see the book "Fast Food Nation."

[TheRavenMother]

what is natural?

Ooooh I know this... I know this....... ummmm..... NATURE!

[MiamiSound]

I think once something is plucked from nature it ceases to be natural

[sshenry]

In that case, wouldn't anything we ingest be unnatural?

[MiamiSound]

Most of the stuff we put in our bodies in unnatural in the sense that its been removed from its source/environment/location that is recognized as its natural state. Im not saying that whatever was taken isnt good anymore but its unnatural in the sense that its no longer connected to its original natural state.

[sshenry]

Hmmm - but then we take the unnatural and (as long as we are still in touch with and connected to nature) we make something natural out of it again. Just one more sign of our creator-ship.

[MiamiSound]

Very true. I guess it just becomes a part of our nature.
Iv said nature too many times lol

[sshenry]

Hey, it's only natural that you should use the word nature in a natural progression of nature-related postings.

[MiamiSound]

Lol, your funny

[TheRavenMother]

*smiles* If we can invent things then its natural coz where else could we get the substances to get man made things? question is not whether its natural, but whether or not natural combinations are healthy when put together scientifically!

nods*

[Atlantis]

If it doesn't grow on a tree/bush/plant, or isn't a mix of things that grow on plants, or in a rock or something like that. For instance: corn flakes don't grow in trees. But if you take a flour made out of buckwheat and millet and salt, then it's a mix of natural stuff so it's ok.

[JayareSein]

xxxx

[weareone]

Unnatural is the natural forgetting it's nature...

so true

this rings of complete truth

[sshenry]

so if we use an unnatural substence to recreate a natural event, is the event or object now natural, or unnatural?

[weareone]

when i look at certain paintings-say some of those of van gogh, the scene appears to me to be entirely real. i can feel how he felt about it. even though he was using substances that had nothing to do with the scene, he created the scene out of them, and to me it feels like the most natural thing in the world

[sshenry]

Or perhaps it is the feelings that are natural. Naturally generated feelings from an object made from unnatural substances - but inspired by natural feelings.

Has a nice circular logic to it