Eating meat, drinking alcohol and having sex: for holly rules breakers!

[Indigo Traveler]

the old thread was almost done, then i thought i coudl open it again:

http://indigosociety.com/eating-meat-t2701.html?t=2701

More freedom, ....more responsibility, more need of awareness and counsciousness! Means you need more capacity and real knowledge of your state of real nature . beyound duality, beyound the idea of oness, beyound the state of enlightement

For some spirtual traditions to eat meat is a manifestation of compassion

One argument only.

every being you relate to in any way will be always related with you until you achive total realization, an ultimate state beyound enlightement.

Then every piece of being you did it, will help you communicate with those beings at that point of your awakening.

Then the possibilities to support those beings to free them from the state of ignorance will appear thanks that you did eat..."them", that your established that connection.

as well, for many other people to eat meat and drink alkohol is also a very important practice of transformation of the meat and alkohol in nectar, or long life meal! how ever they describe it.

But for sure to eat meat a nd drink alkohol without awareness, without the power of tranformation, or at least without such kind of compsive and loving intention might not be recommended if your body , energy and mind cannot process it in hugh quantity or not at all

As well, we can say, any substances, or meal you eat that weaks your awareness, might n ot be recommended. is a question of capacity. Capacity also to purify those substances and your body while you eat them, that do not affect your clarity and counsciousness at all. I mean your capacity to manifest your real self.

Any substance you take into your body change your chemie and body sate of energy and mind. energy mind and spirit are the same.


Just try a big meal and notice if you are aware after it?

as any other thing, meat and alkohol eated to the extrem might damage your body too.

i know some people that eat in that way, up to expreess only an instinctive desire of meat. and actually their energy and mind is almost already in the bardo (process of death), everytime i meet them, i see their actions and lack of good intention and lack of awareness of the real meaning of their actions is just pushing them to anothe rlife almost inmeditaly...for sure with less opportunities to wake up i think. is terrible you see them already living in two lifes...so funny sometimes...

I was learning to see meals as light, and let the male and female aspects of the light go where they have to go in your body and energy.

Actually what we eat is light, and seeing it a slight we also transform it somehow.

I was also learning to see them washed with rainbow light, represents all elements purified. but this is still a dualitic view any way.

I know exist many practices and excersies to develop teh capacity to do something like this. a real transformation of meat and alkohol in nectar

And i have also few stories for you:

there was a man living at a mountain who was considered a sacred man.

every day the people from the twon in the valley brought to him offerings and things to eat and drink, and wait for his blessings.

One night a poor farmer who had nothing to offer but a botle of strong wine came to him and gave that to him.

The next day, the people of the town went to visit the sacred man and told him: " you are not a holly man, becouse you drunk wine last night!"

but the man just did laugh, and explained that with that botle of wine , he could achieve more qualities and capacity and knowledge of his real nature than in the last 10 years living at that mountain , and only in one night!

as you see is a very relative thing

Another story tells about a monk living in a kind of sacred place with other people, this monk was considered special and sacred, and the monastery wanted to make him abbad, the monks manager. They wanted to do so with one purpose: that the town in the valley bring more offerings and gifts to the monastery and donations nd so on. That happend when a sacred man is abbad of a monastery.

But this monk did refuse. was not interested.

One day the leaders of the monsatery decided to force him become abbad for the good of the whole monastery. And went to look for him at his room.

When they oppened the door they got tottaly shocked:

the monk was sitting in a lotus position, in one hand had wine, in the other hand had meat and he was having also sexual experience with a woman, all at the same time.

In one second the old monks went to tell everyone, that this monk that they considered sacred was actualy evil, that broke all vws and all rules to achiev enlightement and decided to kill him.

But our monk escaped with his partner, until they arrived to a river. at the river this monk did manifest a great boat that was floating over the river.

the monastery people could not believe that.!

Another story:

There was a butcher that chooseed to be a butcher becouse had no more habilities to work and could get that way big money.

So he was invited to many farmers houses to kill animals, the farmers didint want to do the killing job so he did it and received a payment for that.

One day, he had to kill a sheep, and looked at her eyes, and notice the sheep was looking very sad. then looked for his knife, and noticed the sheep was hidding the knife with her body. then he asked the sheep why it did look that sad?, that he will kill it very fast without pain. BUt the sheep answered him: i look sad becouse i see you, you are not aware of what you do, and that is very sad, you will experince the same kind of suffering one day, becouse yuour selfish intentions and lac of awareness.

The butcher did wake up and realized what he did his whole life, and decided his life had no value. so wanted to kill himself. Went to a clif and jumped. But for his surprise he starts to float, and by floating he did arrived to the other side of the clif very healthy.

An assest (monk living in a cave who applys many restrictions and vows to his life) who wa sliving in a cave next to the farm saw everything and thought: how is possible that a butcher attain enlightement?, and me an asset with 20 years of meditation cannot achieve it?

then the asset went to the clif and jumped. But did not fly and fall, and died inmediatly.

some times is just an instant of awakening of the truth necessary to purify all kind of ignorant actions, and that instant is more important than many years of dedicated devotion

Freedom and compassion is a state of mind, if you identify yourself value and nature with your actions then you reate your reality. all actions can be purified in an instant of deep real awakening.

But to achieve this capacity of being in every instant aware and experiencing your real nature, your real source as you are, might not be that easy to achive. I mean 24 hours.....

and i think that is our dayly chalenge, even when we eat meat, drink alcohol or have sex!!!

[EnemyAtLineSix]

sounds tasty to me, as long as it all tastes great...
and of course sex would feel great, but im sure someone in the world loves not having it

[Indigo Traveler]

sounds tasty to me, as long as it all tastes great...
and of course sex would feel great, but im sure someone in the world loves not having it

Hi, nice to meet again my friend!

no wonder, i thought you will be teh first at this thread...lifestyle i think

and i meant it as cumpliment!

and......

who did you say dont want to have sex?

for sure is not from thsi world, and might not be indigo or crystal!

[Indigo Traveler]

wow?