Well that is were Revelations comes into play I guess.... The end of the world where you will walk up to God an he will judge you. And if you pass you go to Heaven to live for an eternity (lol so hard to imagine living forever when death is all around)Originally Posted by Hall
I am not my own, for I have been made new. Please don't let me go. I desperately need you.
I think you're on to something here. Do you believe it's possible to transcend the ideas of good and evil during this lifetime?
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yes..
if you ascend into the understanding of love
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AmentiHall (01-29-2010), Calibas (01-29-2010)
I do not know.
I am not my own, for I have been made new. Please don't let me go. I desperately need you.
So regaining our holiness might be impossible?
And Satan, how did he become "bad", did he consume the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil as well?
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No.
I am not my own, for I have been made new. Please don't let me go. I desperately need you.
I'm glad we can regain our holiness. How about Satan, is he redeemable as well? And how did he lose his holiness if he didn't eat from the tree? Did God make him evil?No.
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No like I said before Satan thought he could be god
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And God created Satan?
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lol I will have to pull out of this thread for a while.ha ha
I am not my own, for I have been made new. Please don't let me go. I desperately need you.
Hay, don't burst peoples bubbles. Some still want to play around with the ideas of good and evil and shit.
We can give it labels.
We can debate over the names and who is jus and who is not.
What I've come to realize- is the entities, angels, and/or creation logos involved with everything we know of as creation is an ancient story. And because we humans are programmed to view things in a black and white context, good and evil, god and evil, yin and yang- we totally miss the point. The guys whom religion, and other knowledge paint as "the devil" is really not at all as bad as it seems.
Now I will go out of my way and say there are those who have taken it too far and are disrupting the fabric of the universe itself (of which our universe, is but a tiny part of the greater whole). We tend to become "obsessed" with our universe, our planet, and then put the blame on other beings.
The darker beings, and those who are anti-christic in nature are the reason we exist in this kind of physicality in the first place. Sure without them everything might be in harmony, everything might be living eternally in bliss through being in harmony with the Holy Spirit, Christ, and the Original One- but that is not the universe we live in. Conflict exists for a reason.The "bad" guys are often the ones who help bring separation and the illusion of free will to a reality. They are as much a part of the Oneness as everything else, while Lucifer and even Michael might assume they are at the top of the holographic Pyramid, in reality they are still overseen by the first Creator, the first source.
I have learned of some pretty nasty things in my search, some things that regardless of my want and need to not believe in them, resonate as a truth. Darker things- that have their own ideas and plans as to who and what we are, and what our destiny is. Something I don't like to share because people immediately categorize this as evil. So long as we polarize against evil- it will always exist. We give it identity.
Anyways.....I'm going to read the rest of the thread/post now, just felt like posting that first
D a n e (03-13-2012)
Yes, if you really want out. This is necessary. My opinion anyways.
amen....amenti...and i think that the noah analogy is a great one. the trick to it all is in spite of all the activites that envelop you....you build your ark and sail into your destiny....and take what is necessary for you to utilise in your new existence....the rest...well it just is...xxxxx
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****reach out n touch someone - freespeak****
*silently observes, listens and discerns*
I am not my own, for I have been made new. Please don't let me go. I desperately need you.
Yes that is all good, the point is if God is able to see into the furure why even bother with the creation of mankind if He knew how bad it was going to end up? Unless He is not able to see our furture, then it would make more sense.
Answer me this Hall...
How would you be able to see glimpses into the future if God could not?
I am not my own, for I have been made new. Please don't let me go. I desperately need you.
Answer me this Hall...
How would you be able to see glimpses into the future if God could not?
I am not my own, for I have been made new. Please don't let me go. I desperately need you.
And that brings me back the the previous question. Why create mankind if it wasn't meant for a connection between Angels. I know He can see into the future, He stated that He is the Alpha and the Omega so He knows exactly what will happen in the future.
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I think that is where the subject gets dodgy.
God created Morningstar.
When the war started a device was created to destroy energy,
what resulted was something that can be regarded as "anti-matter"
Morningstar was destroyed, and in affect the "anti-matter" came into existence
So in a sense yes and no.
Satan is the "anti" - Which means god is the Anti- of the Anti- Meaning matter/life.
From a Realist.
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