Gnosticism, gnosticism, & Paganism.

[Celticknot]

To clarifiy some precepts here that have been mishandled, perverted, and ran around the block after being bred to twenty different other fawlty religions to create some unidentifiable offspring known as THE TRUTH.......


Gnosticism (note capitol G) would be indicative of various religious organizations, Like Christian Gnostic for an example --there are several subsets of those. They tend towards roughly the same precepts as gnosticism (note lowercase g) which is a sort of spiritual philosophy that is not contained to any one faith or religious subset or structure. Not all gnostics are Christian Gnostics, but Christian Gnostics can be reasonably viewed as gnostics. Mani Gnostics would have been much different than todays Gnostics but ...still gnostics. Gnostics tend to be very relaxed about the variants in the order. They have a central origin that is accepted if not abided to by throughout both schisms.

Gnosticism has and does come in many different sorts of flavors. It may either be an organized relgion or simply accepted into one's spiritual path as a philosophy or a belief (gnostic). Nearly all Gnostics and gnostics are well informed about gnostic origins of creation--prime creator, Sophia, Archons, Aeons, and how those are viewed from culture to culture. Today's American Gnostics typically tend less towards Sophia but acknowledge a Mother-Father God.

gnosticism,(lower case g) the philosophy is typically found in many and varous non Abrahamic based thought or religions with its focus on inner self, personal truth seeking, source knowledge and individualized (as opposed to collective) salvation. Buddhism can be reasonably viewed as gnostic in nature, and so can most earth based (pagan) religions with their focus on inner wisdom and truth seeking.


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gnostic paganry Goes very well together and are not in the least bit of opposition.

Christian Gnosticism (like Christianism--christian paganism) is very comfortable for those who like thier Chrisitianity but don't want to be bound to dogma. gnosticism in general is the central thread that runs through most New Age thought, and various non Abrahamic religions through out the world.

[Celticknot]

I might add that a basic gnostic precept doesn't include a pantheon of archons that hate you and are out to get you.

[WARRIOR GOD KING ADONIS]

Very well put i didn't know you were a pagan gnostic ok what you say is right i just had to make you taste your own medicine how did it feel to be taken out of context even though you know what the truth is just to hate

[Stardog Champion]

Very well put i didn't know you were a pagan gnostic ok what you say is right i just had to make you taset your own medicine how did it feel to be taken out of context even though you know what the truth is just to hate

Instead of spewing bitterness, why dontcha try to learn how a good, informational, interesting thread should be written?

Newsflash for you, hotshot: we're all here, interacting, sharing, growing, learning from each other. Not trying to impose our views (regardless of how limited or genial) and rallying troops.

[WARRIOR GOD KING ADONIS]

instead of spewing bitterness, why dontcha try to learn how a good, informational, interesting thread should be written?

Newsflash for you, hotshot: We're all here, interacting, sharing, growing, learning from each other. Not trying to impose our views (regardless of how limited or genial) and rallying troops.

and i shared

[Stardog Champion]

and i shared

Yes, you did, man. But you approached it from all the wrong angles. That's why people took exception.

Remember: it's your truth your fighting for. Not mine, for instance. Just like I fight for my truth, cuz it's my life and integrity that's at stake. No one else's.

[WARRIOR GOD KING ADONIS]

Yes, you did, man. But you approached it from all the wrong angles. That's why people took exception.

Remember: it's your truth your fighting for. Not mine, for instance. Just like I fight for my truth, cuz it's my life and integrity that's at stake. No one else's.

For some reason you don't respect my truth. But i can respect the truth of someone i don't like. Treat me with the respect i give you. That's all i asked in all my thread debates, but you guys insult me.

[Morningspark]

and i shared

I feel that I should "let you know" that everyone here.. would be considered an expert in a specific field. You are not the only one with a voice. You act as if you are "all knowing", and the only one here who does "know".
I hate to break it to ya, but your type's a dime a dozen- especially on this site.

This forum literally is a meeting of the minds. There are people here more developed than you will ever realize.
The only thing you'll notice is one or two posts from them.

Its funny how those one and two posts can say soo much.

The individuals I am referring to know who they are. - And when I say one or two posts I don't mean douche's who do the . . . thing instead of a post.

Spark-

[cerise333]

Very well put i didn't know you were a pagan gnostic ok what you say is right i just had to make you taste your own medicine how did it feel to be taken out of context even though you know what the truth is just to hate

is there a thanx but no thanx button here? I think we should add it hahahaha

[Patryc]

is there a thanx but no thanx button here? I think we should add it hahahaha

just a thanks, they removed the other one, too many trolls misusing it.

[WARRIOR GOD KING ADONIS]

It was the pagan gnostics who did all the book burning and then committed intellectual materialism they hoarded knowledge for a millennium . The world has been in darkness ever since.

[Belial]

It was the pagan gnostic s who did all the book burning and then committed intellectual materialism they horded knowledge for an millennium . The world has been in darkness ever since.

I'm not sure what you're talking about but even if they did...so what?
I'm sure people of many other religions and belief systems have done negative things before as well.

[Utopialove]

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[Celticknot]

You are going to have to substantiate that with something that can at least be reasonably construed as acceptable. And the sorts of knowledge they were hiding. It was gnostic precepts that were stricken from Scriptures. Actually it was Chrisitans that were notorious for burning the libraries at Alexandria to name just one of many examples of Abramic religions demonizing non Abrahamic. .Gnostics of any sort seldom prevent knowlege it's the basis of thier existence.


And now to drive home just how bright we are... Books were not in common print until the 15th century or so, so there were no widely distributed books on any relgion before then, and most people were functionally illiterate anyway so it didn't matter. Meaning prior to the invention of the printing press . Let alone book burnings which did not gain cultural popularity until the 60's or so. So even the most ancient gnostics or gnostic pagans BCE didn't even have any books to burn. Because they had not been invented until the current common era.
Everyone knows that.

If you are referring to Secret Socieites that kept knowledge Sacred and perhaps hidden, its because of circumstnaces like this where their beliefs are perverted and twisted if they were to be made publically available. Like you are doing now.

[MiamiSound]

You are going to have to substantiate that with something that can at least be reasonably construed as acceptable. And the sorts of knowledge they were hiding. It was gnostic precepts that were stricken from Scriptures. Actually it was Chrisitans that were notorious for burning the libraries at Alexandria to name just one of many examples of Abramic religions demonizing non Abrahamic. .Gnostics of any sort seldom prevent knowlege it's the basis of thier existence.


And now to drive home just how bright we are... Books were not in common print until the 15th century or so, so there were no widely distributed books on any relgion before then, and most people were functionally illiterate anyway so it didn't matter. Meaning prior to the invention of the printing press which is Let alone book burnings which did not gain cultural popularity until the 60's or so. So even the most ancient gnostics or gnostic pagans BCE didn't even have any books to burn. Because they had not been invented in the current common era.
Everyone knows that.

If you are referring to Secret Socieites that kept knowledge Sacred and perhaps hidden, its because of circumstnaces like this where their beliefs are perverted and twisted if they were to be made publically available. Like you are doing now.

Can i just say how articulate and well spoken you are in this post. Immaculate! Thank you for sharing.

[WARRIOR GOD KING ADONIS]

you are going to have to substantiate that with something that can at least be reasonably construed as acceptable. And the sorts of knowledge they were hiding. It was gnostic precepts that were stricken from scriptures. Actually it was chrisitans that were notorious for burning the libraries at alexandria to name just one of many examples of abramic religions demonizing non abrahamic. .gnostics of any sort seldom prevent knowlege it's the basis of thier existence.


And now to drive home just how bright we are... Books were not in common print until the 15th century or so, so there were no widely distributed books on any relgion before then, and most people were functionally illiterate anyway so it didn't matter. Meaning prior to the invention of the printing press . Let alone book burnings which did not gain cultural popularity until the 60's or so. So even the most ancient gnostics or gnostic pagans bce didn't even have any books to burn. Because they had not been invented until the current common era.
Everyone knows that.

If you are referring to secret socieites that kept knowledge sacred and perhaps hidden, its because of circumstnaces like this where their beliefs are perverted and twisted if they were to be made publically available. Like you are doing now.

that's what modern history states but it's not true........... Pagans have hidden behind my religions and secret societies..... The top level pagans wanted all who had knowledge out of the way so they could take over.......... I will prove this later tonight

[Stardog Champion]

that's what modern history states but it's not true........... Pagans have hidden behind my religions and secret societies..... The top level pagans wanted all who had knowledge out of the way so they could take over.......... I will prove this later tonight

Let me get this straight. Are you trying to say that pagans (all those who are not of Judeo-christian beliefs, btw. Cuz that's how they are called. Just as Muslims call everyone who's not into Islam, "infidels") are to blame for the problems facing the world today?

[Utopialove]

Let me get this straight. Are you trying to say that pagans (all those who are not of Judeo-christian beliefs, btw. Cuz that's how they are called. Just as Muslims call everyone who's not into Islam, "infidels") are to blame for the problems facing the world today?

Paganisim is a umbrealla term most if not all religions are based on paganisim... So religion and paganisim go together.

[Belial]

Paganisim is a umbrealla term most if not all religions are based on paganisim... So religion and paganisim go together.

Regardless of whether Christianity and Judaism were based on paganism, paganism specifically refers to non-Abrahamic religions only. So paganism does not equate to religion.

[Celticknot]

that's what modern history states but it's not true...........

WHAT isn't true after 15 differnt concepts have been introduced. Why ever do you think I'm basing that in world history and not gnostic precepts of find the truth for myself?


Pagan have hidden behind my religions and secret societies.....

And what are YOUR religions and secret societies? Oral traditions of secrecy were put into place to pass information down intact...plus no one knew how to write so you see the neccesity in that. Plus we don't give the secrets of fire away to the kids who will burn the house down.

[B]The top level pagans wanted all who had knowledge out of the way so they could take over..........

You can say that NWO and Illuminati execs are pagan's in the sense they could use the occult they decry from their religious pulpit the same way they'd use any other tool they can get their hands on to control and manipulate. You can say that I won't get offended, however you shouldn't clump all non abramic religions in a big clump of illuminati pagans. You should also know that is a handful of people, not a cohesive religion doing that. I know that it is rumored that occult is used in highest levels of governement and global affairs. But those aren't pagans in the sense of earth based religions and if they are they then Gaia will catch up to them eventually. I doubt that I, or anyone in here is that sort of pagan. Native Americans are pagans. Are you suggesting they were in Europe eons ago orchestrating the cover up of some secret knowledge?

I will prove this later tonight

I know...it's always later. :Later why don't you get a clear idea of what paganism is in order to understand what the hell you are perceiving as a enemy here .Its only what any real 'truth' finder would do.

that's what modern history states but it's not true........... Pagans have hidden behind my religions and secret societies..... The top level pagans wanted all who had knowledge out of the way so they could take over.......... I will prove this later tonight