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    Transhumanism: Will It Improve Human Existence?

    This is an exciting area to contemplate -- the marriage of human with hi tech: brain implants, strength enhancing paraphernalia, etc. Will it be of benefit? And if so, who is it likely to benefit? Are there dangers? Rhetorical Here is a 6 minute video that provides some context. I like the POV presented, since we know how, more likely than not, the tech will be used, and by whom, eh? Thus, a cautionary tale.


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    This one will never get off the ground. Things that are not supposed to happen tend to get a spanner thrown in the works! Take man in space for example?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drakke1 View Post
    This is an exciting area to contemplate -- the marriage of human with hi tech: brain implants, strength enhancing paraphernalia, etc. Will it be of benefit? And if so, who is it likely to benefit? Are there dangers? Rhetorical Here is a 6 minute video that provides some context. I like the POV presented, since we know how, more likely than not, the tech will be used, and by whom, eh? Thus, a cautionary tale.

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    This one will never get off the ground. Things that are not supposed to happen tend to get a spanner thrown in the works! Take man in space for example?
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    This one will never get off the ground. Things that are not supposed to happen tend to get a spanner thrown in the works! Take man in space for example?
    LOL Man stepped on the moon only half century after flight was invented, We went from pacman to Mirror's Edge (games with real physics) in 30 years.

    1600 years have passed since the fall of the Roman Empire.

    Just give it a little more time, and it will be possible.

    Here it is an awesome transhumanist publication http://www.hplusmagazine.com/

    But I like the Simulated Reality concepts a little bit more, but those would be within the transhumanist concepts but way more advanced. http://www.simulation-argument.com/


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    Yes, technology moves fast right now. However that doesn't stop certain areas being slowed down.

    Only when we slow down will the quality of life for many get better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by james View Post
    Yes, technology moves fast right now. However that doesn't stop certain areas being slowed down.

    Only when we slow down will the quality of life for many get better.
    For some of us it is very slow. While for some of you it is pretty fast

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    Too much, too soon, society can't adapt.

    It's like that episode of Star Trek Voyager. Early on in human history in the ST universe humans sent out probes to other parts of the galaxy giving other new budding races information on technology. They encounter one of these races several hundred years later only to find they had all but destroyed themselves, save a handful of individuals who believed the humans knew they were not ready for it and believed humans did it deliberately in order to conquer them without appearing malicious.

    It reminded me a lot about our society and technology. Personal opinion I know, but it just doesn't seem ready for advanced technology. It doesn't even seem ready for the technology we have now.

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    What I think is a shame is that everybody uses the radio, television, cell phones, but almost nobody knows what an electromagnetic wave is and are not interested in figuring out.

    Same with computers, only a handful of people in the world actually knows how a cpu computes and are not interested in finding out.

    If the brute people of the world decided to exterminate this handful of people we would enter a new dark ages.

    And this brute people enjoy using such devices, but they are so brute that they think those devices make them selfs.

    Humanity bullies geeks and that sucks, geeks constant abuse and distancing them from society as freaks, could bring a new dark ages.

    BTW, I consider my self a geek.

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    This is what I think about simulated reality.

    Hominids exist about 2,300,000 years ago.

    Homo Sapiens (humans) about 200,000 years ago.

    Human written history started 4000 years old.

    Movable printing was made 570 ago.


    Computers are about 60 years old.

    Video games evolved from Pacman to Mirror's Edge (games with real physics) in 30 years.

    How much could computers evolve in another 30, 60, 570, 4000; 200,000; 2,300,000 years??

    Lets say we are inside a computer simulation of reality at QUANTUM detail from the year 3000 or whatever
    , the creators/creator of this simulation can see the past since the origin of the universe until the end back and forward.

    They decide to copy/cut someone from A future and paste it to the past, that would be TIME TRAVEL without PARADOXES.

    What if we achieve this level of detail on a simulation? and use our genome, history, geology anthropology and all sciences to create our own simulation of our own universe, would we be able to move ourselves through time?

    WHAT IF The Garden of Eden existed at another computer or simulation where Adam and Eve existed without suffering?

    WHAT IF Noah's Ark actually was built in the future, but the Ark was copy pasted to the past to create a new breed?

    What if Sodom and Gomorrah were cities from the future or were actually another 2 planets from whatever time, and survivors were moved to past earth.

    What if Babel tower was in the future, where humanity tried to defeat the creators/creator building a simulation of their own universe (amateurs vs professionals) but the creator divided that future(past) humanity into several races with different attributes and languages while before it humanity was only one with only 1 but broader language.

    And the creators did this so to achieve that kind of technology humanity first would have to eradicate racism and hate between each other?

    What wouldn't be possible?

    Is this possible?

    LOL, is just a bunch of WHAT IFS.

    BUT, did I write something that is not possible??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roier View Post
    Humanity bullies geeks and that sucks, geeks constant abuse and distancing them from society as freaks, could bring a new dark ages.
    Productive geeks are a good thing.

    You seem to have an interest in this line. I ask you to step back from the local view, take the overview and ask yourself this question: Where do you think all new ideas come from?
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