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    What about meditation?

    I'm a novice in this field so I need some help in understanding experiences during meditation. In my researches I didn't found the answers so I'm asking seniors in this for advice.


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    My last meditation session lasted 30 to 40 minutes and all I've done in this time was to concentrate on my breathing and relaxing my muscles and releasing tension. Didn't knew that time flies so fast when you're staying still. After about (lets say) 10 minutes I felt a weight on my chest and lately found it out that was in the area where is located Heart Chakra. Didn't knew why is this happening but it wasn't something that would annoy me so I continued. After a while I felt detaching from my body, but it was like I was half up and half in my body so I returned to my actual home (my body). After this odd unsuccessful experience my whole body was filled with crawfish so I woke up (was feeling weird). Sitting on a chair for some seconds I was feeling like my body didn't had that stern barrier, it was just like my skin was fuzzy (can't explain the feeling but it was nice).

    So all this being told I have some questions
    1. What was with that feeling of heaviness on my chest? Do you have any idea?
    2. After some strange instinctive experiences of projecting myself from my childhood I can't seem to manage to do it anymore. Why is that?
    I've tried once hypnoses but the same thing happened, made the half way in detaching and returned to my body. I often think that it may be something that is stopping my "soul" (found it odd to call me a soul) from detaching, a fear or something...It could be so? As my last experience from meditation he still has the "need" of projecting instinctively but somehow he can make only the half way.

    Thank you in advance for your wise advices :P

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    Hey Andreea

    To answer your questions as best I can..

    1. That heaviness in your chest was most likely your heart chakra opening up and activating. The reason for your heart chakra specifically activating might have to do with how you relate to the heart chakra. Some people have specific chakras that can easily be activated by meditation. Mine in specific are both the heart chakra and the crown chakra, which seem to activate simultaneously when I meditate. The reason behind that could be that I am the type who thinks equally with his heart and mind. You may be the same way.

    2. Children have a more natural ability to project out of their bodies, and have more control over other various psychological/spiritual phenomena simply because they are less exposed to the cynical societies we all live in today. I can say by experience that over time from my childhood to my adulthood that my psychological/spiritual abilities have become weighed down slightly by my experiences in life, especially by school life and the expectations of my peers and schoolteachers and other authority figures. Practice and patience with yourself is key in order to regain your abilities. You indeed -can- do anything that you have done in the past, you just need to practice if you wish to continue using these abilities.

    Anyway, I hope I was able to answer your questions! Good luck!

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    this kind of heaviness during mediatation can be due to energy blockage, like yes under active chakras or blocked meridian, or unclean energy circuit/light body, and it give can this impression of 'heaviness/dirtyness/coldness' in low energy areas in contrast when other parts are activated =)

    you can check this, it can be usefull around energy body and these kind of experience
    http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/aba/chap18.htm



    I Within the human body is another body of approximately the same size and shape;
    i.e. as a general rule. It can be altered very greatly in these respects.
    but made of a subtler and less illusory material. It is of course not "real"; but then no more is the other body! Before treating of clairvoyance one must discuss briefly this question of reality, for misapprehension on the subject has given rise to endless trouble.



    [...]




    Now this interior body of the Magician, of which we spoke at the beginning of this chapter, does exist, and can exert certain powers which his natural body cannot do. It can, for example, pass through "matter", and it can move freely in every direction through space. But this is because "matter", in the sense in which we commonly use the word, is on another plane
    We do not call electrical resistance, or economic laws, unreal, on the ground that they are not directly perceived by the senses. Our magical doctrine is universally accepted by sceptics --- only they wish to make Magick itself an exception!
    .
    Now this fine body perceives a universe which we do not ordinarily perceive. It does not necessarily perceive the universe which we do normally perceive, so although in this body I can pass through the roof, it does not follow that I shall be able to tell what the weather is like. I might do so, or I might not: but if I could not, it would not prove that I was deceiving myself in supposing that I had passed through the roof. This body, which is called by various authors the Astral double, body of Light, body of fire, body of desire, fine body, scin-laeca and numberless other names is naturally fitted to perceive objects of its own class ... in particular, the phantoms of the astral plane.
    There is some sort of vague and indeterminate relation between the Astrals and the Materials; and it is possible, with great experience, to deduce facts about material things from the astral aspect which they present to the eyes of the Body of Light.





    [...]



    The proper method is as follows: --- Develop the body of Light until it is just as real to you as your other body, teach it to travel to any desired symbol, and enable it to perform all necessary Rites and Invocations. In short, educate it. Ultimately, the relation of that body with your own must be exceedingly intimate; but before this harmonizing takes place, you should begin by a careful differentiation. The first thing to do, therefore, is to get the body outside your own. To avoid muddling the two, you begin by imagining a shape resembling yourself standing in front of you. Do not say: "Oh, it's only imagination!" The time to test that is later on, when you have secured a fairly clear mental image of such a body. Try to imagine how your own body would look if you were standing in its place; try to transfer your consciousness to the Body of Light. Your own body has its eyes shut. Use the eyes of the Body of Light to describe the objects in the room behind you. Don't say. "It's only an effort of subconscious memory" ... the time to test that is later on.



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    With a little practice, especially if you have a good Guru, you ought to be able to slip in and out of your astral body as easily as you slip in and out of a dressing-gown. It will then no longer be so necessary for your astral body to be sent far off; without moving an inch you will be able to "turn on" its eyes and ears --- as simply as the man with the microscope (mentioned above) can transfer his complete attention from one eye to the other.
    Now, however unsuccessful your getting out the body may apparently have been, it is most necessary to use every effort to bring it properly back. Make the Body of Light coincide in space with the physical body, assume the God-Form, and vibrate the name of Harpocrates with the utmost energy; then recover unity of consciousness. If you fail to do this properly you may find yourself in serious trouble. Your Body of Light may wander away uncontrolled, and be attacked and obsessed. You will become aware of this through the occurrence of headache, bad dreams, or even more serious signs such as hysteria, fainting fits, possibly madness or paralysis. Even the worst of these attacks will probably wear off, but it may leave you permanently damaged to a greater or less extent.

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