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    Question Need help with some odd stuff

    Let me preface this question by saying that I consider myself spiritual and am open to a lot of things, and the more I open myself up to the spiritual, the more I see and experience of it. Experience helps me believe, which opens me to more, which allows me to experience more, etc. I still will treat some things with a degree of skepticism, and so I want you to all understand that I'm coming from a viewpoint of accepting skepticism. In other words, I believe spiritual things that I read or that people tell me, but I may try to seek alternate explanations or approaches if I find a simpler or more plausible explanation.

    My friend is a druid and has a great deal of spiritual experience from astral projection to dealing with spirits. In the year that I've known him, I have not been around him when he is exercising any of the myriad of abilities he claims to have, but I have asked him to teach me once I move in with him (this, however, is beside the point). Recently he has become frustrated with my current workplace for reasons I won't get into. In a moment of particular anger, he decided to place a curse on the store/the employees in the store. So far one girl's mother suddenly decided to kick her out of her house (she just turned 19) one man had an accident involving a car while riding a bike (destroying the bike) and a woman's son suddenly came down with a fever that doctors spent the past week trying to determine the cause of (with no success). While the first two can be explained away as mere coincidence and are much more manageable issues (the girl should be able to settle things with her mom or find someone to live with, and the man bought a new bike that's better than the old) I'm concerned about my coworker's son's fever and wish to heal him without revealing what's going on (if it is in fact my friend's curse).

    Several of my coworkers have yet to report any symptoms of the curse. I have limited knowledge of how these things work, so I don't know why that might be (were it not for the boy with the fever, I'd dismiss the whole thing as coincidence). In my case, however, I think I may have inadvertently shielded myself with a node I tried to create in an experiment I did about two months ago. I had been bored one day and decided to gather and siphon off energy into a spot underneath where I normally stand at work. Note that any abilities I may or may not have are not advanced enough for me to know whether or not I'm actually succeeding at anything, and my lack of success in certain departments has led me to be skeptical of my own abilities, thereby making it harder for me to have any success or notice it when I do. Anyways, it's possible that in making this node, I shielded myself from the curse that my friend sent my way. If that's true, and my coworker's son's illness is caused by a curse, then how can I tap into that node or connect her to it so that the curse no longer effects her, thereby possibly helping her son out? If that's not possible, or if the whole node idea seems far-fetched, does anyone know of any distance curing/shielding things I can do for someone who isn't spiritually minded? Lastly, to cover all bases, what type of herbal/natural remedies exist for tricky fevers?

    To those of you who know me on the site, I know I've been not at all active for the past couple months, and this is because my focus has been required elsewhere (my writing, my work, things at home, moving, etc.). As my life settles down again, I plan on returning to being as active here as I used to be, maybe even more so. I've missed everyone here, and hope you've been doing well ^_^.
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    Assuming that they did cause it, if you can find out how they did it I could probably think up a good countercurse of sorts. It'll be just like Harry Potter!

    Interesting about the node though, I've only recently come across any mention of them and've been meaning to try to make one myself. Perhaps if you were able to expand it to surround the store it would nullify any negative energy there. If that's not possible at this stage though, perhaps just try and create another one with specific healing intent and attach it to something that belongs to your coworker's son, or even something as simple as a 'Get well soon' card could work.

    I'll send some healing energy his way too. Might be able to use my supa 1337 vampyre skillz to poke around, see if there's anything that shouldn't be there.
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    Ah, glad to see you around tonight, Seph ^_^. After all, it's your thingie that you shared with me on Facebook that taught me about nodes and had me playing with them that day.

    From what I've read, nodes are specifically attuned to the person who created them, and so even if I covered the entire universe with a node, I'd be the only one protected by it (although I'd be protected wherever I went). I'd encounter that same problem no matter what method I used with the node unless I find a way of allowing another person to use it/be protected by it. I'm not that good of a healer in my experience, so I'm hoping to find someone with a bit more expertise to help me in that regard if I need to take that route.

    I know my friend used his own blood for the curse, but when I asked him about it, he said he wasn't really sure of all the particulars of how it was supposed to work, just that it was an area curse that would effect anyone who spent a lot of time in the store (I'm making the assumption that the longer a person is there, the greater the effect). The way he described it, it seems like it's designed to simply bring misfortune to the employees of the store. but unfortunately one person's misfortune has ended up effecting an innocent bystander, which has me upset with him. If I could reverse it and send the energies he used to make it right back at him, I would, and I think he'd actually be more amused at the fact that I was able to do it than upset that I did. As it stands, though, I'm not well trained enough to even begin to approach a task like that, and the one person I know around here who might be able to do it probably wouldn't have the chance and would need to actually be near the store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMV View Post
    Ah, glad to see you around tonight, Seph ^_^. After all, it's your thingie that you shared with me on Facebook that taught me about nodes and had me playing with them that day.
    Weird, lol.

    From what I've read, nodes are specifically attuned to the person who created them, and so even if I covered the entire universe with a node, I'd be the only one protected by it (although I'd be protected wherever I went). I'd encounter that same problem no matter what method I used with the node unless I find a way of allowing another person to use it/be protected by it. I'm not that good of a healer in my experience, so I'm hoping to find someone with a bit more expertise to help me in that regard if I need to take that route.
    Rules are always open to interpretation. Could always just replace the term 'node' with 'shield' or something like that. Any method of getting the energy to him would work, the possibilities are endless.

    I know my friend used his own blood for the curse, but when I asked him about it, he said he wasn't really sure of all the particulars of how it was supposed to work, just that it was an area curse that would effect anyone who spent a lot of time in the store
    Mages everywhere just facepalmed. Blood magick's some serious shit, bad idea to try it unless you know exactly how it works.

    If I could reverse it and send the energies he used to make it right back at him, I would
    That's possible. Even just bringing a small mirror in and putting it somewhere inconspicuous might do the trick. Or if you want to go a different route, try subtley messing with him. It's no secret that indigoes are master manipulators, so it should be fairly easy to convince him that something's going wrong with it. If his confidencee falters the curse will too.

    As it stands, though, I'm not well trained enough to even begin to approach a task like that, and the one person I know around here who might be able to do it probably wouldn't have the chance and would need to actually be near the store.
    It's possible to distance workings, and I'll help in anyway that I can too. Feel free to PM or whatever too, I fear if I ramble any longer about this I'm liable to end up back in the mental hospital.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephish View Post
    Rules are always open to interpretation. Could always just replace the term 'node' with 'shield' or something like that. Any method of getting the energy to him would work, the possibilities are endless.
    True, although I don't have much confidence with shielding, yet... I'll see what I can do tonight, though

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    Mages everywhere just facepalmed. Blood magick's some serious shit, bad idea to try it unless you know exactly how it works.
    Agreed. He's one of those kids who is mature enough to handle himself like an adult in most situations, but immature enough to think he's immune from harm and can do whatever he wants and get away with it every time. I'm still waiting for something in his life to go horribly wrong so he wakes up to the fact that he's not invincible. He definitely has quite a bit of growing up left to do.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sephish View Post
    That's possible. Even just bringing a small mirror in and putting it somewhere inconspicuous might do the trick. Or if you want to go a different route, try subtley messing with him. It's no secret that indigoes are master manipulators, so it should be fairly easy to convince him that something's going wrong with it. If his confidencee falters the curse will too.
    Where do I put the mirror and what do I do with it? I have no experience or knowledge in this department at all.

    Manipulating and scheming I'm good at, lying, not so much. So far nothing has gone wrong in his eyes, even though the effects are likely beyond what he had in mind. He is a bit worried about the karma if it does cause someone to die, though.

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    It's possible to distance workings, and I'll help in anyway that I can too. Feel free to PM or whatever too, I fear if I ramble any longer about this I'm liable to end up back in the mental hospital.
    Thanks ^_^. I'm not ready to handle this sort of thing on my own. And right now I'm thinking we'd be sharing a room in said mental hospital. Seeing friends get possessed and dealing with curses and such definitely leads people to think a person is mad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMV View Post
    Where do I put the mirror and what do I do with it? I have no experience or knowledge in this department at all.
    Anywhere really. I suppose the more people that see it the better, but I'm not sure what you can or can't get away with there. Some sort of reflective charm or something near a front door or something would work and look nice too.

    I'm not ready to handle this sort of thing on my own.
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    Actually, I think having the mirror is more of a reminder/enforcer of intent. If the reflective intent exists in the will to remove the curse from the area, then that reflection will happen. I've been doing a bit of focusing on visualizing the store surrounded by a mirrored ball. I'm hoping that with the right intent and focus that will reflect everything back on my friend. I also tried to focus a bit of healing energy on Nick (the sick boy) but I won't know if that had any effect until Saturday, probably (since I don't work tomorrow).

    I'm kinda' lazy and impatient sometimes, which doesn't help me get results >_<. I wish I had some sort of status bar that told me how I was doing. *sigh* if only life worked more like video games, sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMV View Post
    Actually, I think having the mirror is more of a reminder/enforcer of intent.
    Precisely. It'll also help to implant that intention in others and strengthen it without them even realizing it.

    I also tried to focus a bit of healing energy on Nick (the sick boy) but I won't know if that had any effect until Saturday, probably (since I don't work tomorrow).
    When you find out anything, let me know.
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    I'm not sure that this could apply to a curse or something as big as a store but I've heard that salt can absorb negative energy into itself. maybe sprinkle some here and there?

    Also what is a node or how do you go about doing that? Should I just google about it or is there anything in particular that you could share that I wouldn't be able to find otherwise?

    I've been trying to push away other people's negative energy from myself over the past couple of days but I feel like when I put it down it all just hung around and came at me then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SereneDream View Post
    I'm not sure that this could apply to a curse or something as big as a store but I've heard that salt can absorb negative energy into itself. maybe sprinkle some here and there?
    Not a bad idea. Putting some around the building or even just the corners might help too.

    Also what is a node or how do you go about doing that?
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    Seems strange to me that someone who claims themselves to be spiritual would 'curse' others? Isnt that a contradiction? Surley being a spiritual person he would fully understand the law of the echo, putting something out so negative is really going to hit him hard at some point, just curious here

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    Dear RichardMV,

    I always love your energy. It is so expansive and alive , like a bright meadow. Love it.

    The feeling that I am picking up from the situation is that your roomie is throwing spiritual juju tantrums and casting off fits of frustration and neediness. He explodes temper outwards with domination, rage, demanding of respect and iron fisted power trips. I see him lashing out with everything he has in order to try and convince everyone around himself that he has the very attributes he himself doubts and craves.

    He wants to be respected, feared even. He wants control over his life. He wants to be the shining figure of spiritual power and wisdom. His higher soul is already that person. His higher soul is worthy of respect, has wisdom and is in control...but he has not allowed himself to believe that he could really be that way. He doubts.

    He also has picked up a few negative entities that are manipulating him by provoking his fears and uncertainties. Those etheric parasites that he once used to make and cast spells have in turn decided to use him. They are feeding off of his wild rage and insecurity. This makes it tough for him to relax and become who he knows he really is.

    Before I go any further I want to also state that I see him as a passionate and loving person. He seems to have a wonderful hidden side that he shares only with his inner circle of trusted loved ones. That loyal and devoted individual is beautiful to me.

    If you can begin to only notice him at his best it will help to lessen the frustration around his will and personal energy.

    Just for fun, if you like. You can create a shield around your targeted workplace that transmutes all negative intention to wealth, harmony and wellness. Simply walk around the work property counter clockwise and meditate on your intention to shield and protect that location and all who dwell there. As you picture this clear glass sphere of protection all around the place add a special ingredient to it...a filter. This filter will capture any harmful energy and transmute it into wellness, wealth and harmony, whatever good attribute you wish. Your clear intention alone can do this.

    Watch over the next 3 days as the circumstances and opportunities begin to change for the better. Notice how healthy everyone will begin to feel. See how people tell stories of how they find money in the street, are getting along, and heal faster from illness. It will be a nice confirmation of the good energy work that you have done.

    Good luck and I will lend my positive intentions to your situation as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SereneDream View Post
    Also what is a node or how do you go about doing that? Should I just google about it or is there anything in particular that you could share that I wouldn't be able to find otherwise?

    I've been trying to push away other people's negative energy from myself over the past couple of days but I feel like when I put it down it all just hung around and came at me then.
    The link Sephish posted is where I learned about them from, but there's a lot of info in that book about a lot of things, so in summary, a node is basically a collection of energy that is created and bound to a person. That person can draw from it consciously or subconsciously and use it, often for shielding. Generally it is considered a sanctuary for the person who made it, as the energy they fed in will protect them from outside negative energy.

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    Seems strange to me that someone who claims themselves to be spiritual would 'curse' others? Isnt that a contradiction? Surley being a spiritual person he would fully understand the law of the echo, putting something out so negative is really going to hit him hard at some point, just curious here
    I think Indigo Dog nailed his problem very well. He's frustrated with circumstances he can't control and vents like this to feel some sense of control over them. Also, just because one is spiritual doesn't mean they're all love, butterflies, and rainbows. He has a very dark personality and hasn't quite fully grasped the concept that all life is connected. He's still young (17, turning 18 in November) and has coped with a lot in his life (a lot of bad influences around him, as well as the loss of his mother at a young age) so a lot of what he does stems from finding an outlet for his pain and inner turmoil. I've sort of made it a mission to heal him by showing him the love that he hasn't gotten enough of from the people who were supposed to have been his friends, and to give him a positive environment where he can develop into the person I know he can be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo Dog View Post
    The feeling that I am picking up from the situation is that your roomie is throwing spiritual juju tantrums and casting off fits of frustration and neediness. He explodes temper outwards with domination, rage, demanding of respect and iron fisted power trips. I see him lashing out with everything he has in order to try and convince everyone around himself that he has the very attributes he himself doubts and craves.

    He wants to be respected, feared even. He wants control over his life. He wants to be the shining figure of spiritual power and wisdom. His higher soul is already that person. His higher soul is worthy of respect, has wisdom and is in control...but he has not allowed himself to believe that he could really be that way. He doubts.

    He also has picked up a few negative entities that are manipulating him by provoking his fears and uncertainties. Those etheric parasites that he once used to make and cast spells have in turn decided to use him. They are feeding off of his wild rage and insecurity. This makes it tough for him to relax and become who he knows he really is.

    Before I go any further I want to also state that I see him as a passionate and loving person. He seems to have a wonderful hidden side that he shares only with his inner circle of trusted loved ones. That loyal and devoted individual is beautiful to me.

    If you can begin to only notice him at his best it will help to lessen the frustration around his will and personal energy.
    I see the good in him that a lot of people don't see. He is very, very physically attractive and charismatic, so he draws a lot of people to him for that reason alone, but those people don't see and love him for the person he is inside. so either they get bored of him and go to someone else, or he finds another admirer and relegates the former lover to being just a friend (And those people often don't care enough for him to stick around, so they leave him). I've seen him hurt by people who have claimed to love him because they'll be with him for a while and then leave him, and he always acts as though it doesn't effect him, but I've seen that his heart/spirit is a ball of pain. He opened up to me spiritually once (I have an ability to read people) and I just felt this flood of anguish that made me almost cry. I know I haven't even begun to understand him completely, but I hope someday to know what made him who he is today so that I might be able to heal some or all of that pain.

    I am totally in love with him, and I wish to stay by his side through everything, even if it might be painful at times with some of the things he does. He has a problem with being a bit untrustworthy at times, but I feel like he'd never do anything to hurt me on purpose. The way you've described him is perfectly accurate, and you see things in him that most don't see, so I'm sure you can understand why I not only feel as I do for him, but why I feel the need to heal him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo Dog View Post
    Just for fun, if you like. You can create a shield around your targeted workplace that transmutes all negative intention to wealth, harmony and wellness. Simply walk around the work property counter clockwise and meditate on your intention to shield and protect that location and all who dwell there. As you picture this clear glass sphere of protection all around the place add a special ingredient to it...a filter. This filter will capture any harmful energy and transmute it into wellness, wealth and harmony, whatever good attribute you wish. Your clear intention alone can do this.

    Watch over the next 3 days as the circumstances and opportunities begin to change for the better. Notice how healthy everyone will begin to feel. See how people tell stories of how they find money in the street, are getting along, and heal faster from illness. It will be a nice confirmation of the good energy work that you have done.

    Good luck and I will lend my positive intentions to your situation as well.
    Honestly, I hate that store. It has a negative energy about it, and the employees are totally different people there than they are when they are elsewhere. I even find myself caving to that energy now and then, and when I'm home I have to wonder how I could let it do that to me.

    When my friend told me he was cursing the store, I actually had no objection, thinking it would effect only the store itself, not the employees, who are good people who I'd wish no harm upon. I guess my desire to see harm befall the store is immature, but I wouldn't know the first thing about removing that negative energy and replacing it with positive. Perhaps I will do as you suggest, although I won't be there to see the results. The reason my friend was upset was because I'd put in my notice that I was leaving about a month ago, but my boss was refusing to take me off the schedule until she hired two new people (the second of which she supposedly chose sometime this week). He's been wanting to do something for a long time, and was waiting for my arrival, since I have a car and a drivers license and he has neither. Last week I was thinking Sunday was going to be my last day (since I'd given my boss my notice 3 weeks before that Wednesday), but I discovered that she'd put me on this week's schedule, as well, and considering how small the store is, I couldn't just leave. She finally agreed to let me leave after I sent her an e-mail last weekend telling her that I wanted this to be my last week. For all my friend and I know, if I hadn't, she would have kept me on even longer.
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    OK. I understand now why you don't want to invest any energy at that workplace. I hope that the next job situation you get is better, more rewarding and totally inspiring for you!
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    I need to get a job that encourages me to be more creative, since I'm sick of jobs where my brain just shuts off while I'm at work. I've had too many of those types of jobs. One of the reasons I'm moving in with my friend is that he lives near the artistic center of the state (and the biggest city, as well). I'm sure I'll be able to find something good down there if I really look for it. My main goal, though, is to finish editing my novel and get it ready for publication. I'm about half done and really proud of it so far, and think it would be popular enough that I could begin to live almost entirely off of my writing once it's published. Also, I've been making simple facial cleansers and moisturizers, and want to see if I can market them, especially since I can make them organic (and they work wonders, too!). My dream is to make a living off of my creativity, whether in the form of stories, music, or anything of the like ^_^.

    Also, I know this is starting to get off topic, but it's my post, so I don't mind ^_^. On that note, my coworker said her son's fever has gone down, but he still feels "blah".
    "Quantum physics lead us to / Answers to the great taboos / We create the world around us / God is every living soul" - Epica, Kingdom of Heaven
    "No one surveys the whole, focus on things so small / But life's objective is to make it meaningful" - Epica, Sensorium

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    Ok Richard, the backround of his age and life experience does help me see just what your getting at here, and of course spirituality isn't all sunshine and rainbows, I beleive we all have played out our dark side to some extent in our life time and will continue to do so for some time, and being the powerful people we are in terms of emotional depth and understanding it does lead to needing an outlet in this extremely tough experience we face, I respect that. I wish the best to you and your friend. Continue to do the right thing, you are obviously a deeply caring individual

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    Good day

    OK, this is going to be very... broken. My concentration for normal conversation is gone, but my
    intuitive side is going berserk, so hold onto you hats, we are going for a ride.

    Your druid friend is not a druid.

    Yes, the curse is real.

    The best way out of this is to forgive.


    OK, first your friend is not that advanced so that he would know how to teach you.
    He is still learning, trying things and poking around the aether. You see, the druids
    were like 'such', and your friend is not like such.
    Its kinda like people who are wiccan calling themselves witches. They are two different
    things, but to beginning people wicca and witch means the same thing, and a 'witch'
    sounds cooler, meaner, more powerful, etc.
    Your friend is a young witch, someone studying witchcraft.
    The only thing to take away from this string of words is that your friend is not suitable to teach you.
    He is not a teacher, not yet. He may be some day, but you will have to look elsewhere.


    The curse he placed is real. You see, the way this universe works is that everything happens
    by the easiest path possible. And one of the foremost tricks of the universe is to make it all
    appear natural, scientific, linear and absolutely plausible. This is a trick, but what a hell of a trick.
    The easiest thing to watch is synchronicity. Start becoming aware of more and more, and
    then you will get to a point where you will believe that if it is all luck, then too many people
    are getting too lucky. Kinda like 1 in 100 people winning the lottery, when the odds strictly
    say 1 in 10,000,000.

    You will have to learn and comprise your own data. You will encounter your own messages.
    You will live your own lessons.


    Now, the breaking this whole thing up. The easiest way I can see for you is forgiveness.
    You will need to forgive your work, you will need to forgive the boy, the daughter, the
    bicyclist, your friend (the druid) and most importantly
    you will have to forgive yourself.

    This is a real thing, not something wishy washy

    There is a kahuna in hawaii that cures diseases in other people by going deep within himself
    and forgiving himself for the disease. You see, what you see out there is a reflection of what
    is in you. If it is not within, you will not see it(period). (There are lots of things you do not
    see. Look for them out of the corner of your eyes.)

    So, go deep within and forgive yourself. See the blood used in the ritual dissolving. The
    chemical and energetic bonds disintegrating. Forgive work for being such a miserable place.
    Forgive yourself for working there.




    And, I would really program
    .. see yourself working somewhere that you enjoy with great people that you like.
    Focus on the best things about your current job. This will bring about change


    be well

    BuilderOfCastles

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