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    Sixth Sense?

    Just a small theory I've been pondering lately and I wanted to get some feedback on it. Generally, I'd say that most consider the sixth sense to be interacting with worlds other than this one, but the more I think about it, the less sense that idea makes.


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    In my opinion, ESP is not the sixth sense. Empathy is.

    ESP abilities are simply extensions of the regular five senses. Like clairvoyance is an extension of sight. The other reason behind my theory is clairsentience, the ability to sense the spirit world. It really has no corresponding regular sense, but I think empathy fills the void quite nicely.

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    I think all the sensory devices of a being interact dimensionally. Especially emotionally charged ones, because that is the center of feeling, the way it speaks to the heart.
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    Very clever! Perhaps instead of lacking a sense, our current ones are just diminished. Although, to be a bit of a Debbie Downer, there are actually between 7 and 21 senses.
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    What if the "sixth" sense varies from individual to individual, depending on which of the myriad other senses we have but don't use regularly, is the strongest for that person?

    So, for one person, the sixth sense to develop or manifest would be telepathy, for another it would be clairaudience or whatever is their strongest point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx View Post
    Very clever! Perhaps instead of lacking a sense, our current ones are just diminished. Although, to be a bit of a Debbie Downer, there are actually between 7 and 21 senses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sshenry View Post
    What if the "sixth" sense varies from individual to individual, depending on which of the myriad other senses we have but don't use regularly, is the strongest for that person?

    So, for one person, the sixth sense to develop or manifest would be telepathy, for another it would be clairaudience or whatever is their strongest point?
    That's sort of what I'm thinking but it doesn't seem to factor in people that have more than one of those abilities. The way I see it is, everyone has the capabilities, just most don't know how to use them. Like with seeing auras, you have to train your eyes to work differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephish View Post
    Oh you, always spoiling my fun.
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    I don't know but empathy definitely seems important.

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    I like your theory, and it makes a lot of sense, but I think that empathy has more to do with the brain than with ESP. Don't get me wrong, I believe in ESP, but as far as empathy is concerned well it has a lot to do with the mammalian part of the brain and its interactions with the frontal lobs. For example, in teenagers the frontal lobrs and the mammalian part of the brain are not fully developed yet, that is why teenagers can be so mean. There is a specific area in the frontal lobes that deals with empathy, but I don't remember what it is called. Also when people suffer from brain damage to these areas of the brain they become unable to feel empathy, and in turn become really nasty people. This is what happened to a man in the 1800's named Gauge. He was working on the railroads, and there was an explosion. Anyway a beam went through his head and left a hole. He survived, as a result that certain part of the frontal lobes was destroyed. He in turn became a really negative person.

    I know I am disagreeing with your theory, but I mean no disrespect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Owlman View Post
    I know I am disagreeing with your theory, but I mean no disrespect.
    I posted this thread as a way for me to learn more about this, so criticism is more than welcome. However, you actually brought up another aspect of it that I feel lends it more credibility.

    when people suffer from brain damage to these areas of the brain they become unable to feel empathy
    There are also parts of the brain that control other senses, and if they become damaged that person may lose that sense. That logic might be reaching a little bit but it seems to fit with everything else.
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    I just went out to get a sweet tea at a local gas station. Anyway, I was thinking about your theory, and I thought that maybe this area of the frontal lobes acts as a receiver for picking up ESP information in regards to other peoples emotional states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owlman View Post
    I just went out to get a sweet tea at a local gas station. Anyway, I was thinking about your theory, and I thought that maybe this area of the frontal lobes acts as a receiver for picking up ESP information in regards to other peoples emotional states.
    Possible. I have very limited knowledge of how the brain works, and even how empathy works for that matter.
    Perhaps empathy was the wrong way to word it... Maybe just 'emotions' or something like that. As you can tell it's still a work in progress.

    I am so glade that you were no offended, I was starting to feel kind of bad about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Owlman View Post
    I like your theory, and it makes a lot of sense, but I think that empathy has more to do with the brain than with ESP. Don't get me wrong, I believe in ESP, but as far as empathy is concerned well it has a lot to do with the mammalian part of the brain and its interactions with the frontal lobs. For example, in teenagers the frontal lobrs and the mammalian part of the brain are not fully developed yet, that is why teenagers can be so mean. There is a specific area in the frontal lobes that deals with empathy, but I don't remember what it is called. Also when people suffer from brain damage to these areas of the brain they become unable to feel empathy, and in turn become really nasty people. This is what happened to a man in the 1800's named Gauge. He was working on the railroads, and there was an explosion. Anyway a beam went through his head and left a hole. He survived, as a result that certain part of the frontal lobes was destroyed. He in turn became a really negative person.

    I know I am disagreeing with your theory, but I mean no disrespect.
    Quote Originally Posted by Owlman View Post
    I just went out to get a sweet tea at a local gas station. Anyway, I was thinking about your theory, and I thought that maybe this area of the frontal lobes acts as a receiver for picking up ESP information in regards to other peoples emotional states.

    I am so glade that you were no offended, I was starting to feel kind of bad about it.
    This makes a butt-load of sense, actually, and does not exclude Seph's theory. Why wouldn't all ESP have something to do with the brain? Everything does.

    Perhaps empathy in the psychic sense is simply an extension of our empathy and sympathy for other people; simple kindness. Your referring to the mammalian part of the brain and it's development reminded me that primates are about the only creatures who have thus far shown actual kindness; they actively help others, because they understand their plights. That basic empathy is held by only a few of the more evolved animals, so it would stand to reason that an extension of that would come with further evolution.

    Also, a thought I just had; a brain that's not fully developed cannot often discern the correct results of it's actions; that's why so many teenagers are reckless- many don't fully grasp causal relationships yet. Perhaps with the development of understanding cause and effect also comes the ability to understand others and why they do what they do (the means and the ends), and perhaps even beyond that, precognition.
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    I like your theory Ive also thought about that like clairvoyance being an extension of the sight sense cause its like youre looking beyond the appearance of something sort of the eyes acting in union with something else you know what I mean? uhmm although for me both intuition and empathy have some sort of sixth sense to them although yeah intuition could also be related with empathy sort of you just knowww something youre not sure how same with empathy sometimes when you just know or have a feeling of something hapenning maybe its not so much that all the senses are separated but more like they interact together and when you learn to use them in a certain way you start developing other gifts ¿?

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    also I agree with the parts of the brain helping to develop certain abilities but I still dont understand how some people when they get in some sort of accident and they end up not being able to use a certain part of their brain then after a while they actually get to develop whatever abilities that part of the brain was supposed to help with developing also people who are already old then others dont have so much luck but it really interests me in that way like could the neurons of the brain really have such an ability to change and develop any ability a person might be lacking just by pure intention of thought or need?
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    my ability is getting stronger someone ask me could i figure out who or what this man did and ect all i did was look at him and figured it all out .......scary in a way but then i knew it was stronger than ever.....something happening ....ANYONE else?

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    that's an interesting thought there Seph,
    IMO all psychic faculties fall under the 'sixth sense', the sense of the aether, we all share it but experience it in different ways. Hence psychic see, smell, hearing etc. They all have this common underlying link between them all, which is why it's not uncommon to have these abilities used simultaneously e.g having a 'vision' but being able to hear the 'scene' at the same time. Two senses in one.

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    Some people think there are actually 12 senses:

    Identified Lower Dimensional Sense Facilities
    1 Visual - Sight - Sense Nada Hova Body (dimensions 1-2-3)
    2 Auditory - Hearing - Sense Nada Hova Body
    3 Tactile - Touch - Sense Nada Hova Body
    4 Olfactory - Smell - Sense Nada Hova Body
    5 Sense of Taste Nada Hova Body


    Unidentified Higher Dimensional Sense Facilities
    6 Audurea Merkaba Sense
    Encompasses ALL Hova Bodies
    Primary Attribute: Manifestation Circulation of consciousness & frequency accretion

    7 Tristet Cellular Telepathy
    Alphi Hova Body (dimensions 4-5-6)
    Primary Attribute:Inner Audio-visual-direct Cognition (reading energy signatures)

    8 Nurgode Transmutation Sense
    Betcha Hova Body (dimensions 7-8-9)
    Primary Attribute:Molecular Transmutation (shape-shifting)

    9 Ragode Transmigration Sense
    Betcha Hova body (dimensions 7-8-9)
    Primary Attribute:Transmigration Projection of Consciousness

    10 Geuard Transfiguration Sense
    Mahara Hova Body (dimensions 10-11-12)
    Primary Attribute:Bi-location Multiple holographic manifestations

    11 Shara Centrifugal Sense
    Raja Hova Body (dimensions 13-14-15)
    Primary Attribute:Electrical Projection Consciousness enters dimensionalization

    12 Aurt-u Electrical Projection
    Raja Hova Body
    Primary Attribute:Magnetic Accretion Consciousness exits dimensionalization

    Quoted from Keylontic Science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyder View Post
    that's an interesting thought there Seph,
    IMO all psychic faculties fall under the 'sixth sense', the sense of the aether, we all share it but experience it in different ways. Hence psychic see, smell, hearing etc. They all have this common underlying link between them all, which is why it's not uncommon to have these abilities used simultaneously e.g having a 'vision' but being able to hear the 'scene' at the same time. Two senses in one.

    I like this discussion

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    That was the other thing I was considering, that each one was just a piece of a whole. That got me thinking that perhaps that's how the normal senses work. And that of course, led me to thinking that it's possible that each world or whatever had it's own senses. It's hard to explain, but an interesting thought nonetheless.

    Quote Originally Posted by penpencilpaper View Post
    Some people think there are actually 12 senses:

    Identified Lower Dimensional Sense Facilities
    1 Visual - Sight - Sense Nada Hova Body (dimensions 1-2-3)
    2 Auditory - Hearing - Sense Nada Hova Body
    3 Tactile - Touch - Sense Nada Hova Body
    4 Olfactory - Smell - Sense Nada Hova Body
    5 Sense of Taste Nada Hova Body


    Unidentified Higher Dimensional Sense Facilities
    6 Audurea Merkaba Sense
    Encompasses ALL Hova Bodies
    Primary Attribute: Manifestation Circulation of consciousness & frequency accretion

    7 Tristet Cellular Telepathy
    Alphi Hova Body (dimensions 4-5-6)
    Primary Attribute:Inner Audio-visual-direct Cognition (reading energy signatures)

    8 Nurgode Transmutation Sense
    Betcha Hova Body (dimensions 7-8-9)
    Primary Attribute:Molecular Transmutation (shape-shifting)

    9 Ragode Transmigration Sense
    Betcha Hova body (dimensions 7-8-9)
    Primary Attribute:Transmigration Projection of Consciousness

    10 Geuard Transfiguration Sense
    Mahara Hova Body (dimensions 10-11-12)
    Primary Attribute:Bi-location Multiple holographic manifestations

    11 Shara Centrifugal Sense
    Raja Hova Body (dimensions 13-14-15)
    Primary Attribute:Electrical Projection Consciousness enters dimensionalization

    12 Aurt-u Electrical Projection
    Raja Hova Body
    Primary Attribute:Magnetic Accretion Consciousness exits dimensionalization

    Quoted from Keylontic Science.
    I'd never heard of those before, but the latter ones sound more like abilities than actual senses. It does sort of fit with what I said above to Spyder though, about each dimension having it's own attributes and what not, though I can't say how accurate they are. Personally I think a lot of the things they mentioned, like transmutation and bilocation, can be accomplished in the here and now, but that theory is for a different thread.
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    I believe.......you are right.

    But I also believe, there are far more than "6 senses" but they extend into a multi-dimensional awareness that we simply don't have access to at this moment...(some do in small amounts).

    Pen you are correct about the 12 senses....although as sephish pointed out, they are actually 12 abilities, or rather, erhm, for lack of better word- our mutli-dimensional potential. And within each one, is a MULTIPLE set of "senses" that go along with it.

    I guess...many intuitive "senses" spill out from a basic sense of empathy. But this is not entirely true. For example, the pineal gland can be opened and used like an organ- or even a "technology" almost...that does not necessary require extra ordinary amounts of "Feeling." There are "visual" components to psychic abilities too, for people who remote view for example. Although that's a mixed bag, as empathy is involved in that too.

    MOST people "feel" things....and empathy is a STRONG part of that. In fact, out of many of humanities psychic intuitions, their ability to "feel" things is the most common because emotion is so strong in our way of lives. But there are senses that go out beyond empathy.... That I've only had a small glimpse of.But in sense you are right, because many of them involve the ability to "feel" what other things/people feel as an essential pre-requisite to almost any ability.

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