Calls to action! Which way do we go?

[Zen O]

There have been several calls amongst members of this board to get organized and do something, Or at least suggesting that we should. So as a point of motivation, perhaps we should share our ideas on what we see as focal points or projects that we should get together on. Not all of us may agree, but that is OK. It will give a chance for like minds to identify each other, and form sub groups. Much can still be accomplished without major funding or the formation of official organizations. It can be grass roots and from the heart. Organic-ization!

Please keep your initial focal points short and sweet. No need to get into details until the subgroups form. This thread is just for a short, easy to read list for directional purposes only. Later other threads can focus on individual subjects and refine each idea into a workable format.

Example:

1) Plant food organically

2) Organize / build community

3) Prepare for infastructure breakdown

Etc...

[TheRavenMother]

I think we should prepare for the fall of civilisation, and going back to nature - learning forgotten skills such as agriculture, woodland and wildlife food resources, making hides and shearing sheep, using a loom, and living without electricity and gas etc, water filtering, and most of all learning to walk long distances and carry heavy weights to survive and the art of self defence.
These are very important for the future, this is what I feel.
I think people should get together right now and train for those basic survival skills.

[TheRavenMother]

Oh, and if we are sensible we wont need any funds to start this, just a campsite somewhere resourceful and not too protected as a nature reserve, to use our skills two to three times a year as a base point.
Or if at all possible a permanent campsite, like the iron age camps that are around England, where people live and work permanently or temporarily.

[Calibas]

I've felt the same way for a while now, that I should be doing more but I'm not sure what to do. The problems I see in the world seem to stem from low levels of consciousness so I've been trying to raise my own consciousness and the levels of those around me. I've wanted to be more aggressive in helping others but a quote from Jesus often comes to mind: "You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." Coming from this idea I've centered on my own spiritual growth and helping others in similar situations. Boy howdy, it ain't easy to bring light to someone who doesn't want to see. To come to a point, which is actually a bit different from what I originally intended, I think our actions should be mainly removing the planks from our own eyes and those who ask for help. We could start a message board! Oh wait...
Though I'm not sure exactly how to do it, I think one of the best uses of our time would be to search for others who are spiritually aware but don't have any support.

Will H

[rug]

I've felt the same way for a while now, that I should be doing more but I'm not sure what to do. The problems I see in the world seem to stem from low levels of consciousness so I've been trying to raise my own consciousness and the levels of those around me. I've wanted to be more aggressive in helping others but a quote from Jesus often comes to mind: "You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." Coming from this idea I've centered on my own spiritual growth and helping others in similar situations. Boy howdy, it ain't easy to bring light to someone who doesn't want to see. To come to a point, which is actually a bit different from what I originally intended, I think our actions should be mainly removing the planks from our own eyes and those who ask for help. We could start a message board! Oh wait...
Though I'm not sure exactly how to do it, I think one of the best uses of our time would be to search for others who are spiritually aware but don't have any support.

Will H

amen

[Zen O]

Thanks for the input people. Just a reminder to make it easier when the thread goes to multiple pages...

Please keep your initial focal points short and sweet. No need to get into details until the subgroups form. This thread is just for a short, easy to read list for directional purposes only. Later other threads can focus on individual subjects and refine each idea into a workable format.

Example:

1) Plant food organically

2) Organize / build community

3) Prepare for infastructure breakdown

Etc...

Raven Mother, that sounds like the way I have been living for years. I agree!

Calibas and Rug, I also agree. If your action is self preperation, then you are all you need to do that. Good fortune.

[azurerowe]

I agree 110%

I think we should prepare for the fall of civilisation, and going back to nature - learning forgotten skills such as agriculture, woodland and wildlife food resources, making hides and shearing sheep, using a loom, and living without electricity and gas etc, water filtering, and most of all learning to walk long distances and carry heavy weights to survive and the art of self defence.
These are very important for the future, this is what I feel.
I think people should get together right now and train for those basic survival skills.

[Belobog]

I am currently "acting" if you want to call it that. I am hoarding precious metals for when the economy fails. I also am supporting nationalist movements in Eastern Europe. There will come a time when the NWO will be destoryed.

[EnemyAtLineSix]

im preparing period.

infact im already prepared.
i live from theh eart, i create from the heart, im living my dreams and desires and being myself, which is how it all comes into play.

word up

[Zen O]

While we are waiting for everyone else's opinions, here is something that everyone can do to some extent, where ever they happen to be at the time...
http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?f...6969C826484389

[Juice]

i live from theh eart, i create from the heart, im living my dreams and desires and being myself, which is how it all comes into play.word up

I agree with Eals that is the way to go. By being myself I play my part, just by being myself I am fullfilling my role, just by being me.

In life I have found many people tried to hijack and take over my path, try and convince me, and sometimes even force me, through fear to do what they are doing.

So I feel its important to do what I wanna do. with the ideal being geared towards love , peace and Unity.

Unique Self Love

[TheRavenMother]

In regards to the link you sent us Zen, I agree that it is a good idea.
I used to grow vegetables at the bottom of our garden a few years ago, but mum saw fit to rip it all up for an ornamental pond - so I then suggested to use the troffs in the front garden and mum said - no because everyone else will nick it, and I asked her why is that a problem she just said - because... that was all she said.
There was no reason why no one can help themselves to it - it was just her own greed and sentimentality of owning things.
I am lucky to live in the part of the city where there is a lot of green verges and green space - and at the cul de sac there is a big green with a willow tree and on the side of the cul de sac is a big piece of over grown land, which I wanted to put some potatoes there as they grow fast, but I heard something ridiculous about asking government permission - i also wanted to plant somethings in my local woodland, like more blueberries etc for the wildlife, as the animals there looking quite thin.

[TheRavenMother]

What I absolutely dislike is the fact on land you see that isnt being used, or places such as woodlands, if you are doing something productive like growing food or bushes for wildlife, you shouldt need permission. You should only need permission if its destructive. I think it should be allowed purely because its a contribution to the wildlife and country you live in.
I even heard something ridiculous that you need to ask permission to harvest blackberries and weeds now.

[Patryc]

yup have to agree - become as self sufficient as possible - become one with the land

[makwaiskwew]

Hmmmmm.BUMP

[wolf89]

i chose do do something by not doing something fizicaly .I bring light in this world by loving the negativ and pozitiv sides .This is my path i prefer to love them all insted of faithing one side .I love my dark family and my light family , i love my dark side and my light side .Sow most of you wold ask my why ? well i am and advance being i am bout light and dark , i am one :P sow i love all.Sow for the omes that don;t like my thinking plz do not respond and if you do respond and are a critic well you can bite me ) .LOve you all

[Sephish]

Questions.

1. How far back do y'all intend to bring civilization?

2. What's to stop it from just moving forward again?

Meh, dunno why I bother...

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And yes, I know the thread is years old, some people are still around though and it's buggin me.

[Arishia_Yume]

Believe it or not, me and my friend on here has felt this call to action. (I've for a very long time) We have started our own starter webpage. We are looking for certain members who feel the way we do about the comeing years...and who have a similar mission... We are trying to create something greater...if anyone would like to message me, explain what kind of group you are seeking, hopefully we're are what you are looking for. (We are also teamed up with other groups)... (FYI: We understand this is serious stuff and we only want people and there familys who are on the same boat as us) So if anyone feels the need to group together and start something greater, I hope you'll message me.

Thanks

~Alicia from Ohio

[PsychoActiveSoul]

I like the tree idea.

I think We should become brilliant physicists, biologists, philosophers, engineers, and then take action in implementing the latest and greatest in efficient technology.

If we educated enough people on the theory of knowledge we could form a circle of people who know how to determine BS from legitimate theories, and then begin posting articles dense with concepts of how the world works.

eventually create another site which could be something like a cross between forums, and Wikipedia. Where people could talk to each other, and explain some things which aren't clear, or discuss some earth shattering new idea for a technology.

That website of course would be the predecessor of an elaborate web 3.0 which would be self governed, but also totally interconnect the world. Live, or in a static environment, across all media types.

with the power of technology we could create democratic entities to mutually invest in something no individual could do alone. This would almost completely eliminate the inertia of the economy. The trick would be tight, 30 person direct democracies who essentially create employee owned corporations in which the management is decided by the democracy.

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to recap thats

1. create a culture focussed on the attainment of useful knowledge

2. create a website for that purpose

3. start coming together and investing together in the next wave of technology companies, or into self sustaining communities.

[oreides]

i think if we started communities around the globe, network them together online or through association... live from the earth... everyone shares responsibility. everyone teaches the younger ones, a form of home-schooling with other community children.
i guess this would seem like a cult. hmm.
i guess the funds to do something like this, wide-scale, would be tough to dig up.
but i feel like pockets of stable communities is the answer.