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    I keep typing stuff about this, but it's all nonsense. Making good diary entries though. Someday I might share more of what I think I know about Lyrans...but I'm still to scattered to do much more than share stories. I start connecting to it and it goes too far with me. I fall in.

    It got a word once, via a similar channel to what you describe, when I was spiritually debillitated from an attack. Still searching for meaning there. I also experienced seeing the word written, and had a few associations immediately. Any of that going on?

    I will say that plants, trees, critters, and the word itself are not hard hits for me. I remember a lot of scoured landscapes, space stations, cockpits, junk like that

    I remember a period of war when everything looked like a blue-night forever.

    The dots on the hand however...that does spark my interest. Did you get to use them? You might have to open the door of course...was the door connected to something? A structure? Was the door upright or at a slight angle? What shape was the door and how did it open?

    Can you describe the man any further?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    well i know i m a "starseed" (thats a stupid term, isnt it?) since im a kid.
    my "family" is very present in my life since the last year. (They were allways there actually, i just didnt know or couldnt see it)
    sometimes they talk to me while i meditate, mostly in their language. I dont understand it but feels familiar and comforting. Sometimes when i sing i sing their songs in their language without even noticing.
    i dont know what i m saying but it relax people animals, plants and the atmosphere of the place.

    I dont think the name of the star/planet/system is important in itself ( like hey, i m from blabla) because as long as you have the conection with this beings the rest doesnt matter. But i m trying to find people alike, to share memories, a bit of everything... It s very difficult to find them if i dont know how these place is called in english/spanish/german, etc...

    So tell me what information would you like to have and i ll pm you.

    Thanks
    Hey, great! Basically just looking for the same thing. Similar story. I love singing some of the old songs too. Challenging to sing that low.
    At leas the music on this planet is awesome. With the advent of Dub, I don't have to try to explain Lyran music. lol..

    Will totally pm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamoth View Post
    I keep typing stuff about this, but it's all nonsense. Making good diary entries though. Someday I might share more of what I think I know about Lyrans...but I'm still to scattered to do much more than share stories. I start connecting to it and it goes too far with me. I fall in.

    It got a word once, via a similar channel to what you describe, when I was spiritually debillitated from an attack. Still searching for meaning there. I also experienced seeing the word written, and had a few associations immediately. Any of that going on?

    I will say that plants, trees, critters, and the word itself are not hard hits for me. I remember a lot of scoured landscapes, space stations, cockpits, junk like that

    I remember a period of war when everything looked like a blue-night forever.

    The dots on the hand however...that does spark my interest. Did you get to use them? You might have to open the door of course...was the door connected to something? A structure? Was the door upright or at a slight angle? What shape was the door and how did it open?

    Can you describe the man any further?
    I've never seen the word before.
    I didn't see and of those things, it was mostly like jungle.
    It was just the door from and the door. When you went in it, it was like the same place but in a different area (like a teleporter).
    I didn't get to use the dots at all. The door was just there, it was upright, it was a regular wooden door with a knob, and the upside down triangle on it. And it opened inwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StardustAmante View Post
    I've never seen the word before.
    I didn't see and of those things, it was mostly like jungle.
    It was just the door from and the door. When you went in it, it was like the same place but in a different area (like a teleporter).
    I didn't get to use the dots at all. The door was just there, it was upright, it was a regular wooden door with a knob, and the upside down triangle on it. And it opened inwards.
    Fascinating. What colors were the leaves?

    More later.

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    I would really love to hear those songs from these worlds....
    I'm very much into music and I think these songs are very beautiful?
    Maybe one could record the singing and upload it.....?
    Or can you refer it to some kind of earthly music?
    How does it sound like?

    <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamoth View Post
    Fascinating. What colors were the leaves?

    More later.
    Like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StardustAmante View Post
    Like this.
    I did not see the image, but the title is good enough for me.

    That's a very good hit for extra-planetary conditions. Most plants are red-purple, imho.

    You are looking for a place with high uv content in the sunlight. Possibly, a reddish star:

    http://voices.yahoo.com/nasa-says-ot...es-298897.html

    These kinds of details are what really help narrow the field of terrestrially observed stellar candidates.

    WE have a spectra class, possibly. More information like this could be helpful. Details are the answers to details.

    Which star? that's just a detail.

    Really wondering if you aren't seeing an offshoot colony. I'll scan the pleiadean cluster for a good candidate.

    Here's an illustration of how Nasa imagines common extra-solar plant life:



    There are many variations. Chlorophyll can do some neat things, and has many variations besides the common greed and red we have on earth. Purplish, I recall, was especially common.

    Did you see any stars or sky at all?
    Any beams of light?

    How did the air smell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Second Sunrise View Post
    I would really love to hear those songs from these worlds....
    I'm very much into music and I think these songs are very beautiful?
    Maybe one could record the singing and upload it.....?
    Or can you refer it to some kind of earthly music?
    How does it sound like?

    <3
    (shrug) Lyran language and music is a bit...heavy handed.

    I'll share some sometime. Maybe soon if I can remember the whole song...
    I remember the tune, it was a simple work-song.

    Lyran music kinda sounded a lot like dub when they had their kit together. Otherwise is was just a low male vocal chorus in simple harmony. Imagine throat-singing a klingon opera, and that's basically it. They weren't terribly innovative musically as I recall...but something I'm missing here...nags at me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamoth View Post
    I did not see the image, but the title is good enough for me.

    That's a very good hit for extra-planetary conditions. Most plants are red-purple, imho.

    You are looking for a place with high uv content in the sunlight. Possibly, a reddish star:

    http://voices.yahoo.com/nasa-says-ot...es-298897.html

    These kinds of details are what really help narrow the field of terrestrially observed stellar candidates.

    WE have a spectra class, possibly. More information like this could be helpful. Details are the answers to details.

    Which star? that's just a detail.

    Really wondering if you aren't seeing an offshoot colony. I'll scan the pleiadean cluster for a good candidate.

    Here's an illustration of how Nasa imagines common extra-solar plant life:



    There are many variations. Chlorophyll can do some neat things, and has many variations besides the common greed and red we have on earth. Purplish, I recall, was especially common.

    Did you see any stars or sky at all?
    Any beams of light?

    How did the air smell?
    It was pretty much like that, minus the green though. It had a tropicalness feel to it. I didn't see no sky at all, or at least I didn't pay attention. No beams of light that I know of. There were many orbs around me though. The air had a musty/misty feel to it, it smelled... I don't know, like apples. Apples would be the best descriptive way of the smell that I can possibly recover from memory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StardustAmante View Post
    It was pretty much like that, minus the green though. It had a tropicalness feel to it. I didn't see no sky at all, or at least I didn't pay attention. No beams of light that I know of. There were many orbs around me though. The air had a musty/misty feel to it, it smelled... I don't know, like apples. Apples would be the best descriptive way of the smell that I can possibly recover from memory.
    Ethylene Oxide I'm betting.
    guessing...whatever.

    Grain of salt with all of this, I jsut find the idea amusing of picking our stars...Don't take me too seriously here. I'm going with very little data and just having fun. Don't get carried away. If any of this helps then enjoy! G type variant or K-type perhaps for the chlorophyll spectra observed. Earth once had such an environment, by the way, earlier on in our system's history. Not likely a Pleiadean star...Those are much bluer stars.

    Looking for candidates in the lyranoid colonization corridor with that spectra yields some results. So namely I'm looking for red shifted g-types and k-types that are roughly within 80 degrees declination (due north off the ecliptic) from our system that are within 400 light years (the approximate range of Lyrans during my time). This is about where my usefulness in this process ends.



    Name |right ascention | declination | sprectral class | distance in light years
    Unnamed
    HR 6322 16 45 58.1 +82 02 14 G5III 326
    Ursa alpha minoris or something like that.
    HR 3751 09 37 05.2 +81 19 35 K3IIIa 91
    Alpha Chamaeleontis
    3318 Alp Cha 08 18 31.6 -76 55 11 F5III 4.07 +.053 61


    You can check out more here:

    http://migall.fastmail.fm/astronomy/...g_distance.htm
    Just look at distance, within 450 ly.
    Look at declination (DEC2000 in this table) and go for as close to 90 as possible for the first number.
    No less than 75.

    Note: It could be interesting to extend south, but I'm not thinking they made it far past this planet. I really wish I had a better galactic chart. Can't believe we don't have such things online...

    EDIT: I got a lot wrong in the above. I just could really use a better galactic mapping tool. This is what I mean - nobody can help you.
    Dunno why I though vega was a pole star here. I think it's because this system (sol) is a pole star on Vega. See? It gets my damn stellar cartography all messed up...I over identify with these types of memories and contacts.

    Gotta let this one rest for a bit unless anything interesting pops up here...
    Last edited by Hamoth; 07-09-2012 at 03:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamoth View Post
    Ethylene Oxide I'm betting.
    guessing...whatever.

    Grain of salt with all of this, I jsut find the idea amusing of picking our stars...Don't take me too seriously here. I'm going with very little data and just having fun. Don't get carried away. If any of this helps then enjoy! G type variant or K-type perhaps for the chlorophyll spectra observed. Earth once had such an environment, by the way, earlier on in our system's history. Not likely a Pleiadean star...Those are much bluer stars.

    Looking for candidates in the lyranoid colonization corridor with that spectra yields some results. So namely I'm looking for red shifted g-types and k-types that are roughly within 80 degrees declination (due north off the ecliptic) from our system that are within 400 light years (the approximate range of Lyrans during my time). This is about where my usefulness in this process ends.



    Name |right ascention | declination | sprectral class | distance in light years
    Unnamed
    HR 6322 16 45 58.1 +82 02 14 G5III 326
    Ursa alpha minoris or something like that.
    HR 3751 09 37 05.2 +81 19 35 K3IIIa 91
    Alpha Chamaeleontis
    3318 Alp Cha 08 18 31.6 -76 55 11 F5III 4.07 +.053 61


    You can check out more here:

    http://migall.fastmail.fm/astronomy/...g_distance.htm
    Just look at distance, within 450 ly.
    Look at declination (DEC2000 in this table) and go for as close to 90 as possible for the first number.
    No less than 75.

    Note: It could be interesting to extend south, but I'm not thinking they made it far past this planet. I really wish I had a better galactic chart. Can't believe we don't have such things online...
    Wait, so what exactly are you trying to tell me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StardustAmante View Post
    Wait, so what exactly are you trying to tell me?
    ?

    Didn't you ask me to help you identify a star? I was trying to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamoth View Post
    ?

    Didn't you ask me to help you identify a star? I was trying to do that.
    So the star that you're trying to tell me is the Unnamed one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StardustAmante View Post
    So the star that you're trying to tell me is the Unnamed one?
    All i can provide you is leads...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamoth View Post
    All i can provide you is leads...
    And that is perfectly fine, Hamoth.
    I'll be trying to meditate more, hopefully learning more about the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StardustAmante View Post
    And that is perfectly fine, Hamoth.
    I'll be trying to meditate more, hopefully learning more about the place.
    I've found some lore about Lyran offshoots. I don't trust anything that is written by others about this subject that I haven't personally seen or somehow verified...but I read stuff when I'm stuck or to check up on whether or not any real Lyrans are out there seeking others. We were very crew-oriented by preference, so I think back and wonder sometimes if I'm not missed in some way. Doesn't seem like us to do things alone, and the stuff people write is tantalizing, but usually presented alongside stuff I find pretty hard to swallow. (See any book that mentions Lyrans, lol)

    These were a practical people. I don't think I ever saw one meditate.

    Blah blah...

    Anyway, the triangle on the hand can be a marker for a Lyran that uses NIU tech (direct nervous integration with machines). I don't remember these pads and sockets glowing though. However if you had em-enhanced vision, like what the thinkers might have gotten, then maybe you could see the nerve interface circuitry. A triangle on the hand did mark something else sometimes too...but that is another thinker thing, I believe. It is unlike Lyran soldiers to allow contact with biologicals, though I recall Hamoth liking to visit the hair-beasts and having a preference for garments made from their cuttings. Though alternately, it's a common type of mark to put on one's hand, so could be any damn thing. Your recollections appear to be fairly consistent with a legitimate off-world observation. Please be careful with such things.

    You might find the Lyran offshoot colonies of interest, or maybe not. First let me repeat that I think I spent some time on Vega 2 and on the replacement space station they had up there (first one didn't last long). Far more Lyrans on the station than on the world. During the war, planet side got too dangerous. We lived mostly in space. Planets became chess pieces, not colonies. The only colonies were far from wherever I would have been. I was in the places it was not safe to colonize. In ships, stations, hollowed out rocks, that kind of thing. I remember one colonial effort...and that was here, so (shrug).

    I believe this is one of the last worlds they tried to colonize. Their enemy was already here, or a hostile earlier Lyran faction or something. I think it was something black, hard, and with a gift for computers and mining sub oceanic rifts. Tall tans, I think. Towards the end, the colony was reduced to logging - so I know they had wooden technology like we do and that they were living off the land - they had altered their genome a bit by then too. The trees were green at this time. I'm thinking somewhat recent, last 50k years or so.

    During the war, there was talk of - and contact with - a lyran-looking offshoot race from a distant colony - they had gone beyond vega shortly after the settlement period there - the colony was remote and far from the war. I never made it out that way but some in my crew had. They came back with stories...peaceful and creepy, as I recall. Promising but alien. Very important projects there. My kind kept far away. There were more women there...pretty. They had gene stabilization tech like ours, but had more mindfulness - they were sharp. I can't recall why, but I have long called them the "Cyrstal people". Something to do with their world? They had unusual ears and their eyes were...varied. Sharp teeth, that's why I thought soldiers...but more refined...just one or two snagglers. They spoke perfect Lyran warrior language, so much that I thought one of them was a navigator or something (often navigators were women) then I saw the ear. TO Lyrans, unapproved genetic modifications like these ... it's like being an ant in the colony with the wrong scent. Repelling and fascinating at once. Pure xenophobic thrill.

    These might be your proto-pleaideans if there's any truth to that stuff.

    Every other world I set foot on, we scorched first.

    That's as much as I can provide. Here are what some people (not me) report as Lyran off shoot colonies (as as they put it...refugees. hmph) :

    I don't really swallow most of this, but It felt wrong to hold this back.

    HYADEANS
    The Hyades in the constellation Taurus, like the Pleiades and Vega, are said to have been the destination of yet another group of refugees from the ancient Lyran wars.
    (could be that remote colony...crystal-people...maybe)

    PLEIADEANS
    Blond or in some cases brunette 'Nordic' type humans based in the Pleiadean 'Taygeta' and other systems, which were allegedly colonized by refugees from their former planetary abodes in the Lyra constellation which were invaded by reptiloid entities from Alpha Draconis. The main Pleiadean planet of 'Erra', was reportedly 'Terra-formed' by the Lyran refugees [Lyra being much nearer to earth--around 30 light years]. The Pleiadeans were apparently the first 'humanoid' society to develop hyper-space travel (the U.S. government has reportedly known how to tap-in to hyperspace ever since the 'Philadelphia Experiments' of the 1940's. The Pleiadeans claim that their technology surpasses our 'International' technology by about 3000 years. This may explain why the humans in Lyra were able to travel the vast distances from this part of the galaxy to colonize the Pleiades, some 430 light-years from Terra-Earth. The Pleiadeans consider themselves to be part of the "ANDROMEDAN COUNCIL" based within some of the planetary systems within the Andromeda constellation.

    UMMITES
    Humans claiming to hail from the general area of Wolf 424, some 14-plus light years distant from the Earth-Sol system, and possibly having ancient ties with the 'Lyran' colonies in that the Ummites (from the planet Ummo) are like the Lyrans-Pleiadeans said to be 'Scandinavian' in appearance, and therefore may tie-in with the so-called 'Nordic' or 'Blond' societies. They reportedly work closely with the Vegan humanoids.
    (Has a U in it, lol...weak connection, but worth looking into as the reports of contemporary "vegans" indicates descendents of thinkers, more than likely.)

    VEGANS
    Relatively peaceful and gentle humans descended from refugees from the 'Lyran Wars', who work closely with other refugee-colonists now living in the Pleiades, Wolf 424, and elsewhere. Often described as "dark skinned Orientals" similar to the native residents of the nation of India.

    http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicspecies2.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamoth View Post
    I've found some lore about Lyran offshoots. I don't trust anything that is written by others about this subject that I haven't personally seen or somehow verified...but I read stuff when I'm stuck or to check up on whether or not any real Lyrans are out there seeking others. We were very crew-oriented by preference, so I think back and wonder sometimes if I'm not missed in some way. Doesn't seem like us to do things alone, and the stuff people write is tantalizing, but usually presented alongside stuff I find pretty hard to swallow. (See any book that mentions Lyrans, lol)

    These were a practical people. I don't think I ever saw one meditate.

    Blah blah...


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    Anyway, the triangle on the hand can be a marker for a Lyran that uses NIU tech (direct nervous integration with machines). I don't remember these pads and sockets glowing though. However if you had em-enhanced vision, like what the thinkers might have gotten, then maybe you could see the nerve interface circuitry. A triangle on the hand did mark something else sometimes too...but that is another thinker thing, I believe. It is unlike Lyran soldiers to allow contact with biologicals, though I recall Hamoth liking to visit the hair-beasts and having a preference for garments made from their cuttings. Though alternately, it's a common type of mark to put on one's hand, so could be any damn thing. Your recollections appear to be fairly consistent with a legitimate off-world observation. Please be careful with such things.

    You might find the Lyran offshoot colonies of interest, or maybe not. First let me repeat that I think I spent some time on Vega 2 and on the replacement space station they had up there (first one didn't last long). Far more Lyrans on the station than on the world. During the war, planet side got too dangerous. We lived mostly in space. Planets became chess pieces, not colonies. The only colonies were far from wherever I would have been. I was in the places it was not safe to colonize. In ships, stations, hollowed out rocks, that kind of thing. I remember one colonial effort...and that was here, so (shrug).

    I believe this is one of the last worlds they tried to colonize. Their enemy was already here, or a hostile earlier Lyran faction or something. I think it was something black, hard, and with a gift for computers and mining sub oceanic rifts. Tall tans, I think. Towards the end, the colony was reduced to logging - so I know they had wooden technology like we do and that they were living off the land - they had altered their genome a bit by then too. The trees were green at this time. I'm thinking somewhat recent, last 50k years or so.

    During the war, there was talk of - and contact with - a lyran-looking offshoot race from a distant colony - they had gone beyond vega shortly after the settlement period there - the colony was remote and far from the war. I never made it out that way but some in my crew had. They came back with stories...peaceful and creepy, as I recall. Promising but alien. Very important projects there. My kind kept far away. There were more women there...pretty. They had gene stabilization tech like ours, but had more mindfulness - they were sharp. I can't recall why, but I have long called them the "Cyrstal people". Something to do with their world? They had unusual ears and their eyes were...varied. Sharp teeth, that's why I thought soldiers...but more refined...just one or two snagglers. They spoke perfect Lyran warrior language, so much that I thought one of them was a navigator or something (often navigators were women) then I saw the ear. TO Lyrans, unapproved genetic modifications like these ... it's like being an ant in the colony with the wrong scent. Repelling and fascinating at once. Pure xenophobic thrill.

    These might be your proto-pleaideans if there's any truth to that stuff.

    Every other world I set foot on, we scorched first.

    That's as much as I can provide. Here are what some people (not me) report as Lyran off shoot colonies (as as they put it...refugees. hmph) :

    I don't really swallow most of this, but It felt wrong to hold this back.

    HYADEANS
    The Hyades in the constellation Taurus, like the Pleiades and Vega, are said to have been the destination of yet another group of refugees from the ancient Lyran wars.
    (could be that remote colony...crystal-people...maybe)

    PLEIADEANS
    Blond or in some cases brunette 'Nordic' type humans based in the Pleiadean 'Taygeta' and other systems, which were allegedly colonized by refugees from their former planetary abodes in the Lyra constellation which were invaded by reptiloid entities from Alpha Draconis. The main Pleiadean planet of 'Erra', was reportedly 'Terra-formed' by the Lyran refugees [Lyra being much nearer to earth--around 30 light years]. The Pleiadeans were apparently the first 'humanoid' society to develop hyper-space travel (the U.S. government has reportedly known how to tap-in to hyperspace ever since the 'Philadelphia Experiments' of the 1940's. The Pleiadeans claim that their technology surpasses our 'International' technology by about 3000 years. This may explain why the humans in Lyra were able to travel the vast distances from this part of the galaxy to colonize the Pleiades, some 430 light-years from Terra-Earth. The Pleiadeans consider themselves to be part of the "ANDROMEDAN COUNCIL" based within some of the planetary systems within the Andromeda constellation.

    UMMITES
    Humans claiming to hail from the general area of Wolf 424, some 14-plus light years distant from the Earth-Sol system, and possibly having ancient ties with the 'Lyran' colonies in that the Ummites (from the planet Ummo) are like the Lyrans-Pleiadeans said to be 'Scandinavian' in appearance, and therefore may tie-in with the so-called 'Nordic' or 'Blond' societies. They reportedly work closely with the Vegan humanoids.
    (Has a U in it, lol...weak connection, but worth looking into as the reports of contemporary "vegans" indicates descendents of thinkers, more than likely.)

    VEGANS
    Relatively peaceful and gentle humans descended from refugees from the 'Lyran Wars', who work closely with other refugee-colonists now living in the Pleiades, Wolf 424, and elsewhere. Often described as "dark skinned Orientals" similar to the native residents of the nation of India.

    http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicspecies2.htm
    Thank you for this info Hamoth. You've been very helpful!

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