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    2012 - The Truth As It Is - as told by a Living Enlightened Master

    In this ground breaking discourse, Paramahamsa Nithyananda elaborates on 2012. This is the truth, not just a prophecy, coming straight from the enlightened consciousness of a living avatar (incarnation).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O68SCfXgBo

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    It's interesting that he would put his guru career on this prediction.

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    That is interesting, as 2012 is just around the corner. He's just sharing what he's seen and knows it will happen. I'm at the ashram right now actually finishing up an intensive program and asked him this very day bout clarification on this. He said the gravitational pull will reduce very slightly and thus by 2012, a person's weight may reduce by 0.1 mg, and it will continue to reduce until 2015 where it may reach 4.0 mg. The big difference will be in the thoughts, they will reduce heavily. For meditators this will be a big boon, for many people they won't know what's happening and may go into depression.

    He said that you will be able to scientifically measure this change. The change I referred to of 0.1 mg is for an adult person, if you take a small 10g weight and measure it, it will go down by the same proportion but not the same amount of weight. Hope that makes sense.

    Personally, I've seen too many miracles around him and the massive transformation in my own life, that I know he is sharing the Truth with us.

    If he was making this up, posting it on youtube and sharing with the world and he wasn't a Master and was making it up it would one of the stupidest things one could do to sabotage his reputation and his organization. As 2012 is just around the corner.


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    How does he (or anyone) know he is a living avatar? I mean, does he have a certificate? Do angels follow behind him strumming harps and singing his virtues and wisdom? At least the Dali Lama has a system of proof to establish the incarnation.

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    In this ground breaking discourse, Paramahamsa Nithyananda elaborates on 2012. This is the truth, not just a prophecy, coming straight from the enlightened consciousness of a living avatar (incarnation).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O68SCfXgBo

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    Are you being serious? How does an Avatar know he is one? Or is the real question where's the proof for regular folks that he is one?

    Only one which is Enlightened can recognize another Enlightened being.

    Paramahamsa is also the highest title one can have. Mahavatar Babaji was the one which first told him his name, before his enlightenment. He thought at that time that he needed to go search and find a Paramahamsa Nithyananda, only later he realized after a teacher of his gave him his name the Truth of it.

    Also he says at 12 he got enlightened but at 21 he realized his Avataric Mission on planet Earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by TruthSeeker11 View Post
    Are you being serious? How does an Avatar know he is one? Or is the real question where's the proof for regular folks that he is one?
    Well if there's no proof why should anyone believe him?

    Only one which is Enlightened can recognize another Enlightened being.
    That's not much help for those of us that aren't that special.

    Paramahamsa is also the highest title one can have.
    So it's about titles now?

    Also he says at 12 he got enlightened but at 21 he realized his Avataric Mission on planet Earth
    That's still just his word.


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    Have an open mind and take it for what it is. You don't need "proof" for everything..utilize your intellect WITH your intuition..not just one or the other.

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    I generally do not take everything at face value, thats all I am saying. A lot of people profess to be enlightened or avatars. A good example would be Jim Jones or David Karesh, two men with charisma and attitude, though very little spiritual propensity. When a person declares himself to be an avatar or whatever, it is a red flag to me. If dude reached enlightenment at the age of twelve, than more power to him. I am not impressed by titles, no matter how high ranking they may be. I am a gnostic, I do not look to a spiritual leader/avatar to tell me how to communicate with Creator, or save my soul with rhetoric.

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    Are you being serious? How does an Avatar know he is one? Or is the real question where's the proof for regular folks that he is one?

    Only one which is Enlightened can recognize another Enlightened being.

    Paramahamsa is also the highest title one can have. Mahavatar Babaji was the one which first told him his name, before his enlightenment. He thought at that time that he needed to go search and find a Paramahamsa Nithyananda, only later he realized after a teacher of his gave him his name the Truth of it.

    Also he says at 12 he got enlightened but at 21 he realized his Avataric Mission on planet Earth

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    I have an open mind, I simply was curious as to what the benchmark is that distinguishes an avatar from an average being.


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    Have an open mind and take it for what it is. You don't need "proof" for everything..utilize your intellect WITH your intuition..not just one or the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmt View Post
    How does he (or anyone) know he is a living avatar? I mean, does he have a certificate? Do angels follow behind him strumming harps and singing his virtues and wisdom? At least the Dali Lama has a system of proof to establish the incarnation.
    I don't see how you could ever satisfy a question like this about someone else.

    Not sticking up for this perfect teeth Guru nor am I putting him down. I simply don't see this question going anywhere other than leading the OP to constantly prove him/her self.

    And what is the system that the Dalai Lama uses? I spend plenty of time with Tibetan Monks and they will all tell you that until your enlightened you won't see or know anything about how they work. Are they right? I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TruthSeeker11 View Post

    Personally, I've seen too many miracles around him and the massive transformation in my own life, that I know he is sharing the Truth with us.



    I am interested in what we ordinary folk call miracles. What 'miracles' have you personally seen him perform, maybe that will give his title as an avatar some credibility

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    They search for the Dali Lama, they have an established plan prior to his departure and then they wait three yrs and go look for him, house to house examining each male child born in the proper tie frame They bring his belongings, to see if there is recognition and what is recognized. Things dear to his heart. They question the children and watch for signs recognition. With the current Dali Lama, not only was he able to pick his personal items from a pile of like items, he pointed to one of the monks and said the necklace he was wearing was his as well, which it was but he had given it to the monk for this purpose.

    I could care less if the dude is an avatar or not, I was curious how it is established. I see miracles every day, they occur quite often, if one takes the time to notice. It is nice that he brings so much to your life and provides a good role model or spiritual mentor for you, OP. I don't mean any disrespect, nor do I give his words/opinions any more weight than I would any other being. He helps you, so regardless of his ueber important top shelf title, he is a good spiritual guide.

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    I don't see how you could ever satisfy a question like this about someone else.

    Not sticking up for this perfect teeth Guru nor am I putting him down. I simply don't see this question going anywhere other than leading the OP to constantly prove him/her self.

    And what is the system that the Dalai Lama uses? I spend plenty of time with Tibetan Monks and they will all tell you that until your enlightened you won't see or know anything about how they work. Are they right? I don't know.

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    Perception is self imposed delusion. Anything could be perceived as anything.
    Walking on the ground can be just as miraculous as walking on water.
    I am more interested in those types of phenomenons that are far out.... se raising the dead, or disappearing and shit.
    A brain that has tapped and mastered such possibility is worth attention.
    So I ask again what far out 'miraculous signs' have you seen the guy perform.

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    He's not going to perform the type of miracles you want to see just for the sake of attracting people to him. He's here to guide seekers, not for a magic act. Personally, when I first met him I had some bad excema (skin condition), which wasn't the reason I went but I found out later he does healing so I asked for a healing at darshan time. He touched my head and about 2-3 minutes later I could feel something happening to my skin, it was slightly itchy but by the time I came home that night I could tell a big healing had occurred. And in 2-3 healings my skin was completely clear. Before I went to india a couple years ago for a 10 day program, an acupuncturist that could read pulses checked my pulse and told me I had too much mental stress and to meditate. It was only afterwards I realized that the constant stream of thoughts in one's mind that you can't stop and in which you have very little control over isn't very healthy and it puts a great deal of mental stress on ones body. I couldn't even quiet my mind so in the gap between thoughts not even for 5 or 10 seconds I could keep it completely quiet. I have heard people who have been meditating for decades have very quiet minds. However after those 10 days, I went from a nonstop stream of thoughts to a quiet peaceful mind. I could relax at any point of the day and just be and not have the clutter of thoughts, every now and then they may come but it was incredibly quiet on the whole. You still have to be conscious of this otherwise thoughts will come, although not even close to the level they were coming before. This has affected to a great deal everything I do, I'm calmer in all situations, I feel I am living a conflict free life and very little stress.

    Many people have miraculous stories that they have shared with me but they aren't my experience so I won't share them. However he just held a 48 day program, and some of the group, even my friends wife who has never meditated in her life and was only their cause her husband had a very intense desire to go. When we were doing a 'samana' process they were levitating, or getting lift off - you could say bouncing, and they were in padmasana so they can't get any help for lift off. Of course I've been around him enough that nothing surprises me any longer, I try not to hold an preconceived ideas but I can definitely say that this isn't normal, just by his presence all this was happening.

    Have you heard of Nadi Leaf's? Written by Saint Agastya and 17 other great masters about 3000+ years ago. They contain the records of your life, this one and previous births as well. I went to one and got an interesting reading, if you are open to that of course - I went to another city and it was amazing as much as it was shocking.

    Healing has always been a calling card for Masters. And I've been to a few different Masters programs and by far the most healing I've received was from Swami Nithyananda's intensives and the biggest shift in bliss, balance, peacefulness and love.

    I also know that as far as performing magical feats so people will come too him, I remember an ashramite telling me after his enlightenment he went to Sai Baba. And I believe Sai Baba told him not to do any of this instant manifestation type miracles because all the wrong people come to you then. He's interested in seekers, not people who want a circus act. Any true seeker would go and watch his discourses on youtube which he has a massive amount of and increasing everyday and see he's talking from a very high level of consciousness. If you feel you can resonate with what he's saying then continue otherwise no problem.



    He had a very interesting youtube video which related to indigo kids recently.

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    I can't watch the video. Can anyone sum up what it says for me?

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    "guru" trend disgusts me
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    Guru ha ha, more labels.

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    Perhaps there was a time when mankind needed "masters", individuals who could act as conduits for higher purpose - higher truth.
    Perhaps there are still individuals who feel the need to receive their truth filtered through the interpretation of someone else.
    But personally, I believe that each and every person has the ability to become an enlightened being - without the help of a third person - and that each and every person receieves truth directly to their own hearts, and that the key to hearing this truth, is simply to learn how to listen.

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    I don't think it's about getting the truth from a third party. As far as I understand it it's being guided to find the truth yourself. It's the difference between conceptual and direct experience.

    If you don't know a particular road you need to find to reach your destination you ask for directions or look for some kind of map. However, you could just drive in a direction hoping you'll get there but why would you do that when someone who knows the way is willing to show you. Assuming the way shower actually knows the way.

    As for the Guru hate I think it's just a matter of trying to be "cool" like the prideful person who won't ask for directions. There are many fakes out there but when you meet a real one everything you thought you knew just fades out in such way your glad it did. And if your lucky you might get a glimpse of something real.

    I'm grateful everyday for having met my Master and for the opportunity to see as he does even if it was for a brief period.

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    Swamiji has said that he's only there to awaken the inner guru within you. You may not need a Guru, but you could say he's a major major catalyst for spiritual growth.

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