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    Question Abortion dream & indigos (do you understand dreams?)


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    Last night i had a very intense dream.

    I was in my dream first visiting some friends, doing toghether some awkening exersices, was very interesting.

    Then, my counciousness shifted to another place.

    Was all very dark, like dark streets, and i was at the base of a building.

    I saw a woman with blond hair.
    Then, blood.
    Then, many women laying down on cirugy tables, but all of them at one big area, over the building, not in a room but in an open space, like a big roof. Next to this open roof was another building, like a place you can enter.

    On this roof were all these cirugy tables, and about women 50 bodies, bleeding, all of them. Was very terrible, becouse was clear all of them were actually daying, becouse bleeding, was just a matter of time. But nobody did ask for help for them really.

    My atention focused on a women standing next to one of this tables, there was a women laying down on the table. I think the blond woman was showing me smething i had to see.

    The women on the table had a gray-blond hair.

    Suddenly, was not clear any more, who did what of these women, but the women laying down stand up having a recently born child on her hands. And a knife on the other hand.

    I saw the table, and there was still a women, a women that was actually kind of transparent in her body, and this womn on the table was bleeding, bleeding up to death. she had an open space on her aura, where the grey -blond women was entereing on her, to take the baby.

    The baby was golden colour. The baby was not crying, but you could feel many people crying, very sad.

    The women the as standing was just standing, did nothing at all.

    The women on the table could not react.

    The women with grey-blond hai took teh hild who started to cry, went to an area of the roof, close to wall, and was screeming horrible screemening, took the big knife to kill the boy.

    For a while i could not see that anymore.

    I did wake up, but i knew was not a dream. in my mind was something else, in another area happening at the same time...

    This part of the dream i did experience awake, like accesing the collective mind: long time ago in europe, there wwas a sect of women, that did work as "Hebame", people that help women have birth. This sect did believe that when a child is killed after birth, the child will go to heaven and become angel. So they were called to angel makers, becouse where killing many children inmediatly after birth. THese women were not discovered for years.

    recently, some weeks ago, i was helping at a family positioning therapy, and ther was a family that had a block into their family systhem, i was playing the role of the father of the family who actually took the spiritual responsibility to free the family from a very big heaviness.

    Through playing that role, along the therapy, (we were about 12 people, and about half of u where healers) we did find out that was a very negative full of bad intention and agression energy affecting the family for generations.

    We could find out about four generations ago, the prescence of a women, and that she did kill many children. When the prescence of this woman manifested through the sythem openning, my aura reacted inmeditaly, a big shield open up, my krone chakra open up two, my sword materialize enrgeticaly in my hand, i felt two wings moving in my body, acting with power over the event beyond time, and my whole body was looking forward to confront that women that i knew was killing so many children.....

    Spiritually i felt my self there to access that time in the past, discover that woman, and also destroy that negative force killing all these babies.

    my mind was projected on time, and i did in few second access the patterns in the past. Understood that womn was part of a sect, that ahd a global plan, to influence spirtually this world, and they did believe had a mission.

    Many children were after their death-after-birth, tortured in other dimentions, and did suffer. That is what i do remember, i did understand that such kind of sufferingw a snot necessary.... and actually the intention was to control and do inate this recently-birth souls. That children had important missions,a nd the parents all of them were so naive and arrogant that could not notice their own children have been killed.

    I did not put atention any more to the therapy,a nd did break the rules to follow some instructiosnof the main therapist ( i knew was an opportunity for a confrontation, a spirtual confrontation), and move inmeditaly to the spot in the room where this negative energy was manifested, and putted myself between the whole family and this bad negative intention.

    Four children were killed, and i was ready to destroy the origen of that action... i flt a very instinctive force comming form my whole body, i knew exactly what to do, spiritully speaking!

    i felt the wings of a hugh angel moving me there, in that time-place, with that power,

    I felt another angel who was follwoing generation after generation this family lineage with the intent to wake them up, in relation to the damage they whole family house did receive, and wake them up, inspire them to stand spiritually this destructive power against them.

    I was ready to act on and against the energy also in other side of my counciousness, and suddenly i was stopped by the leading process therapist, who intent to focus on the family therapy only, and not access the core of the problem, i think, she didint realitze the iportanc eof teh situation.... i did find this therapy team very naiv and blind... the other healers didint realize the spirtual meaning of the event not even the possiblity to do helaing beyond time and confront the orige of th power.... i felt very alon at th time...but kept my prescene and action wa sprojected on time.... the healers team, and tfamilyi positioning therapist, did change the systhem patterns which made not easy for me to keep tracking and acting agaisnt that force, actually oen fo them, very naive took teh role to "protect the family as grandfather..." within their "only- family-therapy-process. while i was ready for action.

    I was mssing you indigos to be with m at that point in a batle beyond time!

    I decided to tak some time, and instead of acting against teh healers group, care for my self, and kepe teh connection with that point of time. The batle can continue being reactivated in any moment. SO i decided to kepe my self awake an leade y self my own path, into the direction of collective ehaling beyond time. needed to do some research....

    The group of healers did not understood what i was doing, they didint feel it, and only later few days later, a couple of them that have also particular perception beyond time did agree with me that such action of protection and destruction of the corrupted frame of power acting over the family-house-systhem over generations was necesary. These healers friends did feel it but didint knew how to react, becouse were use to do the systhemic therapy in onl few dimention fo experience, even the did perceive mor sometimes they do not know what to do or are not able to react.

    At that moment i was for sure, playing active role, materializing energy and intention of angels. I had the power and experience to do it, and that is why i did put my self in front. I was very sure about that, my shield was tottaly awake, and i was ready for that btle, actually i felt like i was waiting for that opportunity.
    If you ask me about war, is a war in time, beyond time
    The therapy of this family, did good results, even the family could not realize that was necessary to do more steps, in relation to the family systhem healing. In time.

    I was talking th teh father, and then he did explain that was tottaly true, that an ancestor from them from central north europe was facing this problem with that sect, and that four children were killed. That my perception was tottaly true, that almost a 5th one was killed, but some how the woman that wanted to kill him was discovered.

    I was gald i could talk abit moe with him, and i knew i needed to do that...but this man was distracted with soem chammans and in hi stituation, is not able to ak a decision to opn that batle again, i think...
    then i just had only few seond to activat an impulse beyond time

    Maybe a connection beyond time, from the future was helping these family many generation ago, when they discovered the woman-killer, quite late for the other four children,. on the correct moment. maybe as me in a team with some angels, who knows, all is possible beyond time!

    Then, i was feeling in my body i need to visit that place and do something there, not only for thsi family, but in relation to many of these children form al families, a confrontation in time.

    But still experience the holding of the therapist taht didint wanted me to act, their energy is still fous only on one side of the family therapy, and i know there si an opportunity to solve something spirtually in time, in the past. so now i m trying to free my self from the therapist bound that do not know hwat to do beyond time. Becouse they dont know what to do really. and instead of hlping me , ar arraid and ignorant and intent to block me and control me.

    I needed to talk more with the father of this family, but they wwere nt awake enough time along folloing weeks. I still feel this impulse, but i m very carefull, i feel is iportant to arrive to the place with the access to the time-frame, through people envolved, otherwise will be not easy to correct teh key points in time.

    I was trying to comunicate with that father, but is stillnot moving-active taht communication, i wish will change....maybe this dream is a sign

    I was arriving to this thought in my mind, and suddenly i did notice i was afraid of my current dream, but i was feelings oethingw a sgoing on stil in my dreamming dimention....

    I decided to stand the fear and enter again the dream. i did learn that many times, long time ago.

    .When i did enter the dream i coul just feel many things did happend, i saw again all the women on the roof, and bleeding, almot dying, withot helpor able to ak for help, and this grey.blond women screeming, she did try to kill the golden-skin baby.

    and i think she really did.

    I understood she was using her prescence and mind, in order to kill those babies, she was entering the aura o teh women, weaking them, weking the mother care feeling, and taking the babies and killing them.

    The woman with grey-blnd hair was very clear had to do that. she had a spritual purpose on doing that

    i noticed where many rooms out of that roof, and the grey-blond hair women enter few of them, was like an hospital, all in white..... and sh had in the hand, right hand, they golden.skin baby, took from one leg, like a piece of nothing, like a bag with things!


    I understood was a relation between the two xperiences, my dream o these bleeding women and killing events. my awakening paralel dream in relation to the sect of angel makers, my memories about the family positioning therapy...


    but something else....too.
    my exgirlfriend, she was working in an oganization thatw as promoting abortions, in germany as a way to support women that were raped or taht for any reeason, even finnacila rason or age will decide to do an abortion.

    her boss, is an older women with grey-blond hair, that was controlling and helping this organization to grow in while germany. he was ver ypwerfull and actually her midn was dominting the field of decision, behavior an thinking of all employees, also from my ex-firfriend.

    my ex, was working giving "advice" to women and teaching sexual education" and teenagers schools.

    I did notice every time after the advice sessions for abortions m ex was not an more herself, she was tottaly blocked and could not access her own emotions.

    i did understand whs was also later acting against herself. she did this advice twice a week, and along the week was mpossible to access any emotionla communication, she wa slike not there.

    But i did realize also, my ex was envolved in her female body by a very stressed energy pattern, that belongs to the manager of the organization in that city, this grey-blond hair woman.

    When my ex told me her booss will quit this year i did understand something will chang in taht organization and things might get better. And that my ex might be free then to find a new job.

    I can also say, my ex was blond. but i am very sure she was not in my dream.... for a while i did feel my ex was doing an abortion ( i dont see her since few months and i knew she was looking for another guy already...)

    As well recently along an individual healing session i did met a family that was having abortion, and they had to experience many years of suffering an sepration after that even they have a very important love bound.

    But any way, i was also born after the abortion of my brother, my concpetion was about some weeks after, then i had access to all the experience of my brother in my mother womb! no nice memories i have to say.
    what came to my mind, after-during meditation today, was also this vision:

    I saw my ex-girfriend, who is scared about herself (an probably she had a spirtual power similar to indigo), she was talking with other women and along their talk, they were discussion about reasons for abortion, like sickness and AIDS, and exual abuse,a nd so on...and then a friend of my ex- say: "if they are inidgos, might be also a good idea to abort them"... not for my surprise the whole goup did agree.

    The question they had was: "how to recognize indigos before they birth.

    For me all thse experiences along these month and my close reltionship with my ex- and that family positioning therapy, are keys to unlock one story that is going on.

    The prescence of indigos on earth might be welcome for some, and might scare others, that do notr understand. If is leagyl accepted that "ndigos" can be aborted, becouse is considered a sickness, i think is something to consider for while.



    I experience mex is possesed by a powerfull energy, that activates her ego, she was abduced and controlled many times, also by other woman, long distance. they were entering her dreams and even hypnotoizing her many time.

    I might say my ex is an indigo, but i could not do nothing for her, she was tottaly conditionated, and crashed,a n was finding security under the control of tha power. she could leave and help herself,i did healp until that point, but then, she decided for a corrupted behavior, instead of love. THat was for my surprise an event that make me experience a doubt if she was inidigo or not,


    She did experience an awakening while she was with me, but also her self was getting weak... she was pushed by this external forces alot, and also by her job. spirtualy.suddenly i feel very aware that she might try to reject her indigo source, or reject it ( if i am right she is possesed), and act against inidgos, through the abortion.

    an inidgo getting corrupted? possible?
    IN any case, that is an event close to my life....

    might be reduced to her, my ex, but in general i think there is more behind the act of abortion, that what we really know, spiritually.

    And the intent of many to generate a dignose of indigos as sick, might match the fear of conditionated women and parents, to expose these new birth to abortion.

    something to do or think about.

    i will apreciaty your spirtual assitance and vision regards this point.


    for love and life

    daniel
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    Here is another reply.


    Take care man, you are a fugitive, and if you know what I know. You do know you have been spotted and you know how we haunt.

    But you should know how easy we forgive, you just don't want to be where you belong.
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    Hi Roier

    thanks for your notice, you are my best fun in IS, you always write in all my threads, you always say non-sense things, and better.... it seems that you still dont know if you are indigo or not.

    But you always talk like you belong to something, that you know something, that you are something... who knows who you are...but only you

    i really dont get you, Roeier...

    but today, you did write something that really impress me...

    Maybe you can write open what you feel, think, believe....with open words, instead of playing a game that you cannot win, while i dont play it with you!
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    by The way, who is hunting and who gets hunted?

    who are you Roier?

    why sometimes you seems to be friendly, and sometimes it seems you write something nobody gets?

    any way, i hunt at night, and eat my own meal....

    now...are you afraid!?
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    can any body write here about teh sect, abortion, inidgos and so on?


    this place is a messs, where are the senior members?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo Traveler View Post
    by The way, who is hunting and who gets hunted?

    who are you Roier?

    why sometimes you seems to be friendly, and sometimes it seems you write something nobody gets?

    any way, i hunt at night, and eat my own meal....

    now...are you afraid!?
    You go buy chips at the 24/7 drugstore isn't that right?
    You tend to look at your friends as

    [ ]sidekicks
    [ ]heroes
    [X]potential prank victims
    I lol'ed
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    Quote Originally Posted by EnemyAtLineSix View Post
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    Hi Enemy, probably a got the 50 visit now...... thts how we go, every body reads, every body knows, and who writes....?

    Is always about cooperation, somtimes i miss that time where IS was a colaboration space, where spirtuality and care for each other were the main point....

    i know still is, there for, i willw ait for the visit 81, as usual, after 81, the threads beggins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eriol View Post
    You go buy chips at the 24/7 drugstore isn't that right?
    you mean at the 36/7 gas-station?
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    I am very confused by your posts in general. To me I can't understand what the hell your talking about. If you are trying to help why not put it in terms we can ALL understand. Then you write a book and try to sell it. Why would you want to make money off of your knowledge that is not our way. I also question you tatics and wonder what your motives may be. You worry me quite frankly. You may be a fugitive at this point. I will consider this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roier View Post
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    Take care man, you are a fugitive, and if you know what I know. You do know you have been spotted and you know how we haunt.

    But you should know how easy we forgive, you just don't want to be where you belong.
    Ahhh, yes, i did forget...you are a very good friend from DFIsher, he always save you everytime you do missrespect people in IS, DFisher helps you that much, that you were accepted ll teh time to come back and come back.

    I onder why Dfisher do something lik that, to keep alouding you, to post and b misrespectfull....

    maybe is a question, why Dfisher do not communicate with many that try to communicate with him, why Dfisher did create IS and organized this call to all of us....but do not communicate or answer the letters we send to him, regards organization of IS...maybe is not in his busines splan..am i right?.... I wonder...why you are still here Roeier....

    Ah, yes...somebody is paying you to write this sentences on my threads? why why you let them manipulate you? otherwise why you do it?
    Will i see you at night today...we will hunt!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by greygoose View Post
    I am very confused by your posts in general. To me I can't understand what the hell your talking about. If you are trying to help why not put it in terms we can ALL understand. Then you write a book and try to sell it. Why would you want to make money off of your knowledge that is not our way. I also question you tatics and wonder what your motives may be. You worry me quite frankly. You may be a fugitive at this point. I will consider this.
    Grey.... you will understand my text ones, i am very sure about...that you do not doesnt mean many do not, actually many does!

    no worry, one day you will understand them....my texts....

    sure, some misspelling, some wrong words, i can understand makes not easy for many of you to understand, but you will, you will understand.

    Maybe that you, and few do not understand now, is the help you and few others need: to focus in what you need and understand instead rounding aroun in fields that you cannot care of, wher you still dont understand yourself.

    I was asking many months ago to Dfisher, about the possibility to open private threads and organize subgroups in IS that we can communicate with teams and people that understand thmselves,a nd enjoy a common language, for some maybe a complex language (or other kind of language), but Dfisher not even answer me neither to others. Dfisher is so closeed in his Management of this Forum, that nobody knows what he really does and why.... he is actually ghost!

    Maybe this text, GREY, was not for you! why an effort to understand somthing ou do not, to read something you dont value (you cannot pay for), to understand why, abook is ment to be sold...why? did you ask yourself why?

    Yes, i sell my book, in the correct moment.... you can buy it with the weekend money your parents give to you....

    Will you travel to MT Shasta Gathering? what do you do for a job?

    papa and mama will not give me money for cinema, you know...out there, indigo adults have to work....and to spend hours for you and other to dont even try to learn or understand a word, not even ak fo clarifications, actually doesnt help me make a living....

    you are right, i migt rather dont sell a book...neither write for you here...

    Yo are still very young and that is why you think you deserve to access knowledge for free, just becouse you did born indigo?

    at least you need to do some effort, if you didint access to it by yourself...

    at least you need to respect and ask for it...did you ask me for a free copy becouse you dont have the money?...no..becouse your ar very arrogant...am i right? you ego doesnt aloud you to ask for something....you have to rceive it...

    ohh my prince, we all have blue blood here, you understood!

    You decide that your strategies are correct becourse you dont use money...becouse you live hidding yourself...becous you wait fr the crash of the systhem...becouse nothing lse have value here but your own way.....

    but i have a new for you...money is energy, as earth it is..if you cannot ride that energy...are you able to help the planet to ascend? earth energy have many forms...i do no limit my way, neither reject anything of this world...all is manifestation of the same power and love and hide knowledge in it self, ...is a secret... the keys and the reading...why to share that secret with you...you ar just curious...you dont need it..otheriwse you will be abl to ask an access fo it...

    if you dont understand the value of the work the people that live in the indigo front line do, do you deserve to get it for free..? why?

    There are many kind of indigos, many ways, many strategies...why to judge just accord your own limitations and soft way of behavior?

    Mybe my words ou will not like, i like all inidgo ways, so far we are able to share and learn from eahc other as usual....

    why to be inidgo if you can be crystal, why to be this if you can be that?

    maybe the front line is not for you... maybe that is why you better keep strategies underground....in a world where your dayly meal are paid by somebody else that work hard in that horribl systhm you dont want to touch with your soft clean hands...

    what do you know about me...? just your own judgement....

    you have no idea how many did learn with me...but there were brave enough to communicate and respect, (not to judge and complain, becouse they coul not understand....)

    people with the strategy of living underground, and doing everything as you like it...might be right, but no need to consider yourself better than others...

    My motives? ask the grid!

    A fugitive run away from something..... i meet you there where you wait for me! i am there at the spot where you dont see yourself! i breath next to you when you forgot to breath! i care for you when you play nintendo! I look after you, when you walk blind the streets! i provide meals for you when you dont care about how the bread did arrive to your table today.....and my friend..you are still alive...why?

    plase, my motivation.....?

    just ask the grid...but up there where they know....not down here, where the followers chat in a coffe shop, and the truths are sold in the market of lies.

    you can know my motivation your self, if you take the time to participate in my work, instead of judging with your arrogant attitude, from outside...

    you want to know, then you can help....you can exchange..everyone that knows me, know how it really is, but you didnt even try it, didint even made the effort to approach me or my work neither....

    that you only judge the form, tell alot about what kind of knowledge are you ready to receive... for my knowledge you will need to pay, just to read, what you cannot understand yourself.....

    Many did learn with me already in IS, and i did learn with all of them too...many people to learn from...why are you worry about not being able to pay for a book?

    where you can learn? exactly where you cannot arrive...becouse you need a simple effort: awareness, awakening, intention, respect, colaboraton...intead of only asking for...complaining and judging....

    as i said, you ar very young
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    Your idea of an indigo/crystal or whatever else you consider yourself is totally different from the indigo/crystals I know. First "this place is a messs, where are the senior members?". Indigos and crystals I know would not be concerned about senior and junior members just the truth and helping one another accomplish a mission. Indigo/crystals are one and are on one mission every last one of us is created equal and have a equally important task in our mission. Second, I spread my knowledge for free because its part of my mission I do not charge for it. Third I believe you are misleading and confusing many of us and taking us off the right path. My mission is not fully understood but it definately deals with helping others see the light and become spirtual ridding oneselves of our 3d problems. If enough people realize this and they will a change will occur. I have helped many people in my life. I am known as a healer to most. I can honestly say If I wasn't sure I was an indigo/crystal person and I came on to this site and read your post. I would turn the other way. Thats not what were about. Peace/love
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    Hi Juice, nice you are here....

    thanks for the wishes, i will be fine, i gt today more ifnromation regards this pttern of information related to my own access to the matrix...some keys to b understood..

    you are very true about the dreams field, is very true our own inner activity and memories, even earth 3D or spirtual or 5D patterns, might create a dance...

    i just dont agree in the idea of a difference between an earthy mind and a spirtual mind...for sure there is a difference between the brains we have (head, heart, body...cells) and the higher self.

    for sure, while you experience all and each of thm as something different, it seems to be different..

    but ones i did experience that openning, where the mind at the source of all manifestation was brighting.... since then, all is just like a vase, empty that receive everything and let it manifest, as it is....and that experience aloud me to integrate and know and purify myself too... not easy at the beggining but gets better...

    The real mind, is at the source of manifestations..i think that is the core experience of a multidimentional indigo.

    I think the dreams, meditation visions, and stories fro dayly life, where like synchronized, along the last moth, with the event of collecive-family systhem healing....

    i think ll of them are realted to each other, but also to me, it seems i could solve something else beyond time, that is why i wonder if any of our friends here, with a bit of time in between own mission, might have a look there too, maybe we can do some team work for a while...

    i was planning actually to travelt o that location where this sect was operating four generations ago....

    and by the way, i think that sect had to do with something still active in the modern society, systhem, now. i am very sure people like raven mther for sure did find information about ones, but information is not enough, i know is possible to act beyond time on it, and i got some keys for doing that,...my question.

    if any body lse in IS had access to thsi informaton and events along the last two months, and if does exist any snychrone events in IS community and in 5D...just for us, ...i am looking for an activation of the Indigo-power, a key, that shows which kind of action is needed from us, or me only.

    I am very use to work alone, but also enjoy team work.

    As well, i wonde if this is also a theme for any of you.

    And also if there are any news or 3D information related to "inidgo=sickeness", and "how to find out if your child is indigo or not before the birth?"

    that are my question really, maybe you have an idea?








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    G'Day Bro, Prety epic sorts of dreams you is having there. I personly dont like trying to interprete other peoples dreams, because I feel peoples dreams symbols should be a persons own unque interpretation and they should find there own symbols from dreams.

    So although I maynot comment on the actual content of your dreams, I felt to write something.

    Its not suprizing to me that your soul would be busy while your earth body rests and sleeps, etc. and maybe your dream is reflecting parts of that.

    Some dreams I found in my life, are sort of beyond interpretation, which can sort of result in one giving there power away to the dream in a way, particulary if it was a high emotionaly charged dream,like peopel can think about the dream all day and it can drain there energy sort of.

    It can be tricky in dreams somtimes determining if the dream is a actualy soul travel experiecne, or its a higher self that one is recolecting, like if the soul is in the persons higher self body and they is sort of experiencing it lucidly.

    Or a dream could just be sort of a subconscious tape loop and the mind sorting through subconscious charges and clearing things from daily ponderings etc.

    The thing is with Higher self or soul travel lucid things,IMO. is many of those sorts of dreams can sort of be camoflaged, for many reasons, some being, so a person doesnt find out to much what there higher self actualy does out there in its world, so as not to draw to much attension to them self, and for a protection, timing so the mind can handle the information in the right way, etc., becasue trying to interprete ones higher selves reality with a human mind can be very strange, hehe as our minds just cant handle the same information and hold the same knowledge in this world, IMO.

    Like if we was sleepling her on earth, and our soul goes into one of our Higherselves, and say that particular Higher self is a Angel. sometimes if we sort of come on line lucid with our human mind in that Higher self body, we sort of interprete the experience with the human mind. Or sometiems we might get a couple of seconds of clear Higher self sort of interpretation within the dream, but its tricky casue the human mind also wants to kick in sort of, hehe.

    Any ways I wish all your Divine Dreams come true and the knowledge and wisdom you require comes easy and gentle to you.

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    Take care man, you are a fugitive, and if you know what I know. You do know you have been spotted and you know how we haunt.

    But you should know how easy we forgive, you just don't want to be where you belong.
    Roier, please, as ususal, PMs, you are forcing people spirtually, becouse your believ by teleporting or astral travel you can influence or bothr other beings... astral travl is not a big deal, but just an experience...

    you believe you are old...but you might be old, but you dont respect at all the space of other people, what you o, in 3D world might be considered a rapenning...

    I warn you, i am not patient any more with you!

    I told you already many times, that many in yur family did kill themselves is a problem you have to solve by yourself! dont use me to solve your problems...you dont need my mirror, neither my power...but to be yourself truely!

    and respect others, starting by being less arrogant!
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    By the way, from my knowledge humans have the ability to be greater than the angels due to Free Will.

    Now I will try to steer this back on topic.

    Your dreams could simply be dreams. Have you ever read Freud/Jung? Some of the things you saw could simply be metaphors for other things.
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    I am 34 years old. I own 7 houses which I can verify. I have 2 houses of my own one in pa and one in dowtown orlando, 5 investments. I am the owner/ceo of heritage realty co. I also own a second company called dna development. I have a masters degree in business. I also work for one of the biggest communications companies in the wolrd. I have a 6 digit salary. All of which I can verify. I also have very powerful physic abilites. For example this week I was able to predict a certain individual would right an article found in local newsapaper under "letters to the editor". I did not know this individual and never met him. I predicted this to 5 people on sunday, 5 days before it happened. I predicted the exact section page, name of article, date the article would be printed and the exact name of the person who wrote it and was able to read a paragraph of the article word for word in front of these people. 5 days later on the date I said it happened, and it happened exactly. I also predicted many other things to this detail. You are very judgemental. I did not judge your 3d charcter just your intentions as they are in the wrong place my friend. You are probably a very power individual yourself just a little corrupted by the 3d world as you previous post on this thread indicate.
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