Saturn Return - Come again?

[GenericIndigo]

I turned 28 last month
i've been at least a few different people in the last 12 months
at certain times i've been a happy manic extravert
other times a depressed introvert
a motorcycle riding surfer
a sluggish potheaddy sloth
an angry destructive killer
i'd probably have to agree with a schizophrenic diagnosis
except that I know what's going on and I'm controlling it
now-- anything can make me happy
yet anything can make me sad
it's like nirvana
but it's also like a still pond

[AscendedLegend]

Here... This might help you with what you're going through.

http://www.sunfell.com/generati.htm

http://www.sunfell.com/saturns.htm

Generation Three (Gamma): Born between 1978-1988: Here is the first generation of minimally overlaid Indigos. If they have an overlay at all, it is generally violet, with some appearances of Crystal/Octarine. This is where some of the earliest manifestations of apparent ADD and ADHD in Indigo children began. Saturn’s Return/Awakening for this generation will be from 2006-2016.

Best of luck, and cheers.. Let me know how things go, alright?

[rabana]

this is what i had posted in the 'April '83' thread:

you all will enter your saturn return (astrological milestone event) in november 2012. it will begin to affect you before that and lasts for months, affects you for decades. look it up-- probably better to know its coming...

[AscendedLegend]

Really? Where's that? Can I have a link please?

EDIT: Never mind, found it!

[rabana]

http://indigosociety.com/showthread.php?35197-April-83

[rabana]

i just read that the USA is in the middle of its 8th saturn return. this debt crisis and discussion has occurred during one of the intense points of the return.

[leila]

not only the saturn return eventually in the next decade or so we will have a pluto return, and theres a lot of other aspects in the chart all being highlighted at once.

usa s birth chart has pluto in capricorn, in a wide applying square from saturn in libra, and with uranus now in the mix too....


this is a good in depth article about the us chart, its a bit thick with astrospeak.

http://mountainastrologer.com/tma/ve...-crisis”

and some more, theres a lot of articles about this.

http://garybrandastrology.com/articl...2-12-2010.html

http://starcatsastrology.wordpress.c...and-usa-chart/

i generally use the november date rather than july 4 date to draw the countries chart. there are different opinions about which one to use, but the independence of the country from england (july 4, 1776) was different than when the usa became a country(the articles and paperwork which laid out the basics of the government- november1777), so when that actual date was, and exact time, is a disagreement among astrologers.
other countries dont have this, their charts are commonly accepted as being accurate with clear dates and times.

that date as the birth date of the country, rather than the july 4th date seen more commonly when astrologers do work on the chart, would make america instead a scorpio sun sign (the eagle/phoenix) with a gemini moon (duality- east/west north/south) and humanitarian and idealistic aquarius rising.

http://astromuse1.webs.com/therealuschart.htm

the other is fitting too- the july 4th chart showing america with a sun sign cancer, sag rising, and an aquarius moon. so its hard to say one is more relevant than the other. if you go by the alternate, usa has saturn in early scorpio and wont have the return for another year or three years (?)....they are similar charts being within the same general time period and have the same transpersonal planet placements.

heres the alternate version, or at least one of them:

The Scorpionic America Chart

Nov. 15, 1777, 12:46pm EST in York, PA (39N58, 76W44)

http://www.hermes3.net/scorpusa.htm

there are a couple of other alternate versions too...on the july fourth date people have disagreements about the exact time. making america either have gemini, sag, or scorpio rising

[leila]

it seems really obvious we need a major debt forgiveness.
why was it not entirely obvious too, that if the government is giving tax money to bail out banks, that money should directly apply towards forgiveness of people debts, especially their home debt ?

a quote from that article on the astrology of the debt crisis

http://mountainastrologer.com/tma/ve...risis%E2%80%9D

Does the phase-angle return of Venus in the 8th house suggest we need new sources of tax revenue? Since this only happens in the natal sign every eight years, and the Bush tax cuts were in 2001 and 2003, astrology’s answer would seem to be “you betcha”! Could a reform of our tax laws to eliminate loopholes also be in order? Absolutely. It’s been way more than eight years since the Tax Reform Act of 1986. That’s almost a Saturn cycle. It should be noted that even Republican presidents (like Reagan) raised revenue through raising taxes when needed. (3)



When we consider that we are moving toward the nation’s first Pluto return (2022), we might ask whether The Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act was an appropriate response to the “too big to fail” dilemma? (Banking is a 2nd-house matter and banking regulations fall under Capricorn.) This is possibly the single most important issue we have recently faced as a nation. The current Congress cannot respond constructively to the debt ceiling problem, while the previous Congress helped protect the economy in the long term. If the government is responsible for bailing out the banks, it should have the responsibility and the means to regulate them. It is only by punishing those who create situations whereby they can greedily prey on consumers that we can avoid yet another financial crisis. If there are no consequences other than being bailed out, why would it be any different next time?

[Kelly Crawford]

Is that so?


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[rabana]

bump....................

[LucidDreams]

Don't know if I've been through my Saturn Return, but the stuff that lady was saying reminds me very much of a hitchhiker I once picked up. She also was saying all sorts of "crazy" things that didn't seem to make any sense at the time. I thought to myself, great, I picked up a psycho. But then again I just seem to attract that type of stuff and it's nothing new to me. In hindsight not only did a lot of the stuff she said make sense later on down the road, I thought to myself, that she was there waiting "just" for me. It was a long, straight road and she didn't put her thumb out until the exact moment that I was coming... not for any of the other cars in front of me. And something compelled me to pick her up. Normally I wouldn't even consider it, but I just thought she looked like such a nice lady, nothing could possibly happen. And I wanted to help her. And after I dropped her off she just stood there staring at me as I drove off, I could see in my rear view. It was kind of eery. It was very similar to many of the "vanishing hitchhiker" stories you hear about, only, she didn't vanish on me.