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I am interested to say a heap of stuff, because I have been through so many experiences in my life. I have witnessed spirits with my own two eyes, I have dreamed of future events, I can sit here and write a 30 page thread about all the weird things that have happened to me and with me, etc. I wont even go into those things.
I have very individualized beliefs, and what I believe doesn't really match anyone's philosophy, teachings or way of life.
I am a bit of an outcast. I don't fit in anywhere. I can say though that I believe in God -- 110%, so therefore a lot of New Agers wont get along well with me because the New Age movement and traditional Christianity clash.
I don't fit in well with the Christians, because in my humble opinion the vast majority of so called Christians couldn't care less about God. They're more interested in being a part of the club.
My views tend to clash everywhere, no matter where I go. It doesn't matter what I say or how I say it -- it upsets someone or causes an argument. Even in spite of me being a person that can't stand conflict or argument and I am not a person that "has to be right".
I have been told that I am an Indigo Child. It was recent. I'd never even heard about what an Indigo Child is, so I looked it up online. This was a few months ago now. As far as I can see, there's no doubt that my personality and way of being matches that of an "Indigo Child" -- but it all sounds too new age for me (sorry if my skepticism upsets anyone, I am truly not trying to upset anyone). I am merely speaking what I believe.
Anyways, the whole reason for this thread is to see what kind of reception I get from what I am saying right now. If I get put in a stranglehold right off the bat, I'll just leave -- no qualms here. I'll go and leave you all in peace.
However, I am willing to discuss things. I do have a lot to share and I have so much I don't understand. I have so many experiences and personal attributes that I can't share with anyone, because -- well, no one understands.
So, now I'll wait to see what the members of this forum have to say about the above.
Last edited by CandlesAlight; 01-02-2008 at 01:47 AM. Reason: typo
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Last edited by MagdaleneGraceMae; 04-01-2008 at 11:00 PM.
Peace starts with each person.
Do random acts of kindness today!
Hi MagdaleneGraceMae, thanks for the welcome. My concern didn't come from any threads that I'd seen. My concern comes from my previous experiences of dealing with people online, and -- well, people in general (why should this forum be any different?). I don't mean to say that people in general suck, and I know that's how I might come across -- but I guess people are just different.Originally Posted by MagdaleneGraceMae
YOu are welcome here no matter your views. that is the beauty of us indigos. BUT you are wise to have concern. You must be observant and have noticed the attacks people get on here.
I don't fit into any mold, thank god for that!
Welcome to a place of family. YOu will find people who will relate to you, it may take a little while, it may not take but a minute, but you will find them.
Much love!
Peace.
*hugs*
If anyone understands me in "but a minute", well if it's a female I'll propose (lol) and if it's a male I'll suspect some sort of government surveillance :P
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..see, I just typed three paragraphs and backspaced them. I don't know how to relate to people so that people will understand things I say, and I am tired of taking the risk due to ridicule and misunderstandings. I always know what the reply is going to be, and I am always misunderstood and then I get upset because I knew better. I know that sounds as if I have a huge ego problem, but I don't ahve a huge ego. I am tired of people thinking that. People just don't understand things..
I am making no sense. I realize that. Sorry.
I guess I'm just hoping that one of these days something will just click and someone will understand things the same way I do.
I am so sick and tired of people -- but not in a way that I am angry at them, just frustrated and... hmm.. this thread is starting to sound like a cry for help. lol...
Why did I join? Why am I typing all this? I don't know. I'm going to have a cigarette..
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Last edited by MagdaleneGraceMae; 04-01-2008 at 11:00 PM.
Peace starts with each person.
Do random acts of kindness today!
A face like this; I could probably compromise a little on the understanding
I know., that's shallow of me.. but -- wow.
Sorry, I was just browsing the forums.. where were we?
Yeah, I'll probably have "one of those" days and open up sooner or later.
For now, I think I'll just enjoy chatting with someone who ends their threads with *hugs*
Hi Candles:
I also don't fit in with either new agers or Christians, but if I had to pick one I guess I'd pick the NA's. I've come to the conclusion that I love Jesus but hate Christianity and I need to stay away from church b/c it takes me away from God. I'm probably projecting here but it you know what people's reaction to you is going to be before you see them, you might be sending that energy on ahead of you and creating the outcome of your meeting with them. You know, that hokey secret or law of attraction or whatever the hell it is. I tend to shun society and maybe that's why. I can't often access a positive thought about the possible outcome of interaction with a group or even an individual I haven't yet met.
Well hell, it IS a cry for help. So what? Most of us arrive here trying to find someone who will just LISTEN.. You will find that here for sure.
Indigo is WHERE you are in the divine spectrum of light at this point. A huge percentage of Indigos have suffered abuse for what it is worth but not all. We all unquestionably need love or have love to give. The giving and receiving becomes like breathing after a while and you soon discover that as you have received, you begin to give - in your own version - which inevitably, is the precise version that someone coming (or someone already here) really needs.
The love is UNIVERSAL. We are individuals.
I read you on another thread - wow - you got some raw spots, don't you?
That's OK.... it will hurt but it will heal.
Whatever topic you might be interested in, you'll connect with a keyword on the search line. MANY if not most of our Indigo-relevant problems have been addressed and archived in this past couple of years. Your questions may have already been answered.
Nonetheless whether you stay or go, you are welcome in this rather friendly hot-tub of Indigo Individuals with like minds.
Give it a great big bite, chew slowly and enjoy.
♥
Family is all about "agreeing to dis-agree". You may have arguments with your family, not understand where they are coming from or why they are saying certain things, but you LISTEN.
You have found a nest of listeners.
"Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to "die before you die" — and find that there is no death."
I'll reply to you as honestly and genuinely as I can. I suppose what I wrote above is a cry for help, which is why I stated as such. I recognized that as I was typing. However, I also realized that I'm not likely to find it on a forum, so I went and had a cigarette instead. To elaborate, considering that what I've stated has now been highlighted, the best way I can explain my "cry for help" is that I am having great difficulty living in a world where so many people are so messed up. It's difficult for me to relate, and as often as I think people are crazy -- I sometimes wonder if it is me. I do realize that making such a statement can open the doors to be labeled insecure and confused, but I wouldn't put it like that. I'd use the word dismayed.
The above sentence doesn't provide me with anything useful that I can ascertain. I don't intend on being blunt. That's the only true response I can give to the above paragraph.
No argument there. I agree entirely.
Don't pacify me please. I am not hurt about anything. At least, that other thread was not caused by any amount of hurt. The other thread that you're referring to was caused, to be frank, because I am tired of seeing evil spread into the world, yet people lap it up like it is good. This perplexes me and caused a great deal of confusion, because I cannot understand what is causing the blindness in people.
Thank you, but I have no interest in searching the forum for self help. If I do a search, it will be for perusal purposes. I'm not likely to learn anything new. I can say from experience, that not too many people have information that I find enlightening, but what people say usually causes me to sigh one more.
I'm not going anywhere. At least, I didn't intend on it. I'm going to be perfectly frank here. Usually when I am frank and display how easily I can see into people, they resent it and it causes friction. However, I'll say that the reason for the above statement is that you can't stand what I said in the homosexuality thread. You genuinely don't want to argue with me, I know, but your ego is insisting that you are right and I am wrong and if I am wrong, there must be a reason for it. The best explanation you can come up with, is that I am hurt about something, which I must insist again -- I am not; I'm just dismayed. However, I understand that you have a limited tool set, so I am not upset with you. I also understand that what I just typed sounds egocentrical, but as far as I can see what I've said here is accurate.
As hungry as I am, and even as thirsty, I wont be taking a bite out of anything I've read in the last hour or so. I'd rather be hungry and thirsty than ill.
Last edited by CandlesAlight; 01-02-2008 at 08:38 AM.
Unfortunatly I don't subscribe to the agree to disagree concept.Family is all about "agreeing to dis-agree". You may have arguments with your family, not understand where they are coming from or why they are saying certain things, but you LISTEN.
You have found a nest of listeners.
I am looking for utter truth always -- and perfection, and if I do not find it I will not settle for less. That is a part of what makes things so difficult for me -- because it's hard to live and think in such a way when almost everyone else couldn't care less; and will settle for less.
At this point it looks like most all has been said, but hey.
Honestly, I've never visited a more accepting place on the internet. As a walking, talking, breathing skeptic on everything I approach, entering this site was quite the cautious experience for me. I suspected that there was about a 90% chance this was another forum composed of ego, post count, false compassions, and ignorance. It was an extremely pleasant surprise to find that the people who gathered here were open-minded, accepting, bright individuals.
Are there disagreements? Yes, but as long as everything is conducted with respect, they're peaceful - less "squabble", more "friendly debate".
"Most of us arrive here trying to find someone who will just LISTEN." - FreeSpeak (Oh, how true that is.)
As for what you said of "individualized beliefs" and Christianity - I understand completely. I could write a novel regarding those two issues alone, even with a mere 16 years of experience under my belt. I wouldn't be too shocked if yours was twice as big as mine; alas, that's why I love this place.
P.S.: I already have an instinctive feeling about how you'll reply, but hell, I'm being me. Go for it.
Last edited by avant.garde; 01-02-2008 at 08:32 AM.
A sinister history and a hopeful future.
I know exactly what you're saying. So many people don't know God, yet they call themselves Christian so they can be a part of the club. I am in a similar position to you. I'd love to attend a church that is centered around God, but what I find is centered around tradition, religion and the serving of self. So I don't bother. However, I will never deny God and I'll say to my dying breath, Jesus is Lord.
I am not looking for someone who will listen, per se. I am looking for someone who will hear what I say. Man, this whole thread is turning into just another big misunderstanding. I should just laugh now -- not being sarcastic, but this is about take 5,300,534
I know, I sound like an egocentric know-all that is better than everyone else, and I know more than everyone else and I look down on everyone and I'm right and I wont hear people's opinions.. I can finish this thread all by myself.
You want someone who will substantiate the views and opinions that you already hold.
Good luck
"Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to "die before you die" — and find that there is no death."
YEP---- You're a nut.
Me too.
♥
Sigh. I am going for another cigarette..
As for listening - yeah, I know what you're getting at. I don't need someone to grab my opinions and give me a professionally formatted, 5-page essay. It's ridiculous. Sometimes, I put up my opinion... just because I have my own two cents to drop in. My apologizes for not wording that more specifically.
[useless paragraph] Honestly, as a 16 year old, I'm sick of having my opinion slip through the cracks in this world, and I've searched long and hard for proof that I'm crazy, paranoid, and self-centered - wouldn't it be easier to fix myself than everyone else? But no... no. It's ignorance, denial of the ultimate good that's right in front of their face. [/useless paragraph]
I read your opinion on homosexuality, and damn! You're thorough. Do I agree? Not really. Will I tell you why with a pretty quoted post and links? I'm pretty sure I'm not going to change you by doing so. I'm overjoyed, actually, to see someone so solid in their beliefs. You know what you believe. I appreciate that.
A sinister history and a hopeful future.
16 huh? You're doing ok for 16
Yes, you're right. I know what I believe, and as sshenry pointed out in a partially correct manner -- I am looking for someone that will substantiate the views I already hold, because I have no will to change anyone. It would be nice to come across someone one day that actually sees things the way I do -- which is basically what I started saying in the very first post of this thread.
Yes, I am very thorough, because my whole thought process is thorough. One has to be thorough in order to reach structured ideas that can be shelved and easily improved or corrected later.
See, the problem with so many people today is that they give in to the world and adjust their personality to fit in with everyone else -- not because they actually care about the other people, but because they're afraid of being different. Yet these are the exact same people that will say we're all different and we're all individuals and we all have our own opinions. See, when you understand the reality of all this, it gets really hard on your brain trying to figure out what people actually mean as opposed to what they're saying.
I see so many people, like I mentioned above, they'll do their very best to fit in with all this new age garbage where everyone pats each others backs and mirrors each other and they agree to disagree, and these are the very same people where if you push them hard enough (to see who they really are), fangs and streams of venom appear.
See, I understand all this, I've seen it time and time again. You can't please everyone, so you've got to work out what YOU believe and you can only do that with a thorough, constructive and diligent thought process -- but at the same time you need to be open to correction and use your heart and everything all at the same time. It's not difficult to be such a way, but it is extremely difficult to get along with people who take the easy road all their lives and then want you to feel like you've lost the plot because you've diligently and genuinely tried to do what's right and what's best and not just what's easy or accepted.
Being 16, and I don't mean to be insulting, you're growing up in a completely different world than when I was 16, and I am only 31 now (32 on Jan 4). It really wasn't that long ago, but I've seen the world change so much in this short time. Yeah there's more technology and there are cell phones and the Internet, stuff that was only starting up when I was your age, so technology has increased which is different -- but I am not talking about that. With the TINY bit of hindsight I have from being just a little bit older, I feel so much for the kids of today. This world was once a better place, and it wasn't very long ago. The sad thing is that it's getting worse -- real fast, and this last generation is the one that has to deal with the consequences -- through no choice or action of their own.
You're not crazy, just having a hard time dealing with the STUPIDITY you've been born into, and know deep down that it's just not right.
16 huh? You're doing ok for 16
Yes, you're right. I know what I believe, and as sshenry pointed out in a partially correct manner -- I am looking for someone that will substantiate the views I already hold, because I have no will to change anyone. It would be nice to come across someone one day that actually sees things the way I do -- which is basically what I started saying in the very first post of this thread.
Yes, I am very thorough, because my whole thought process is thorough. One has to be thorough in order to reach structured ideas that can be shelved and easily improved or corrected later.
See, the problem with so many people today is that they give in to the world and adjust their personality to fit in with everyone else -- not because they actually care about the other people, but because they're afraid of being different. Yet these are the exact same people that will say we're all different and we're all individuals and we all have our own opinions. See, when you understand the reality of all this, it gets really hard on your brain trying to figure out what people actually mean as opposed to what they're saying.
I see so many people, like I mentioned above, they'll do their very best to fit in with all this new age garbage where everyone pats each others backs and mirrors each other and they agree to disagree, and these are the very same people where if you push them hard enough (to see who they really are), fangs and streams of venom appear.
See, I understand all this, I've seen it time and time again. You can't please everyone, so you've got to work out what YOU believe and you can only do that with a thorough, constructive and diligent thought process -- but at the same time you need to be open to correction and use your heart and everything all at the same time. It's not difficult to be such a way, but it is extremely difficult to get along with people who take the easy road all their lives and then want you to feel like you've lost the plot because you've diligently and genuinely tried to do what's right and what's best and not just what's easy or accepted.
Being 16, and I don't mean to be insulting, you're growing up in a completely different world than when I was 16, and I am only 31 now (32 on Jan 4). It really wasn't that long ago, but I've seen the world change so much in this short time. Yeah there's more technology and there are cell phones and the Internet, stuff that was only starting up when I was your age, so technology has increased which is different -- but I am not talking about that. With the TINY bit of hindsight I have from being just a little bit older, I feel so much for the kids of today. This world was once a better place, and it wasn't very long ago. The sad thing is that it's getting worse -- real fast, and this last generation is the one that has to deal with the consequences -- through no choice or action of their own.
You're not crazy, just having a hard time dealing with the STUPIDITY you've been born into, and know deep down that it's just not right.
Whats we try to do is open their awareness to these faults so they themselves can correct them. The trick is how you approach them and in what way. Patience is the key. Lead by example. I think sites like this exist because many people feel just like you. I feel you came to this site for a reason to make sense of all this. Perhaps we all have. You may feel the need to help these people you speak of. Focus on the solution to the problem intsead of the problem itself. I have a driving force to correct the problems in the world. I think thats the indigo part of us.
I know this is totally off topic and for that Forgive me but I have to say itI love you all dear ones
Mia
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