anyone got insight on what is going on with Egypt?

[tmt]

I saw some really interesting stuff on Ancient Astronauts and the area of the middle east The show focused more on Turkey and Mayans than Egypt but it is a multi-part series they are playing on the History channel. It talked about Zorastian traditions and their actual meanings.

I also talked with an entity that only identified himself as "Pharoah". He was very nice and all smiles. He was not wearing any type of head wear and actually resembled Telly Savalas very strongly; dark eyes and brows. He said he has a gift to give; apparently, it is related to the events in Egypt. Something big as far as confirmation/affirmation of the incredible technology that existed in the ancient times in the region we call Egypt.

I also saw an entity that did not provide any name; he was very tall and wore a turban and robes in white, blue, and teal. He were very dark skinned, like a really dark tan on a white person and piercing blue eyes. He literally ran from the vanishing point of the horizon to directly in front of me and began communicating. He has come to me several times and always very urgent. Dude is never smiling; a very serious and businesslike demeanor. He calls me Mah, not really sure why. Anyway, he says basically the same thing for the regions we call Israel and India. New information on ancient technologies from the regions.

I love the information age, so much to hear/see/understand.

Yes indeedy, keep your eye's on the 3 cups, as for Obama's flop I would say thats a good move

Although said agency's seems are having a good clear out.

Either way Disclosure will be a surprise to some, and not to others, I am still voting for everyone having their amnesty heads on the day though, because all this is like a dog dragging it ass along the carpet.

[tmt]

This is so profound and true, the positive thoughts develop positive actions in the world; literally. Every situation that we look upon or think about with a concious effort toward finding the positive aspects helps bring positive motion into that action as it is developing. I don't mean looking at the world through rose colored glasses (like I do, but mine are Rosy Croix) unless you have the strength to do as such. I mean finding any positive aspect and putting thought energy there to help that action gain momentum.

More importantly, do not look at anything with fear or negative intent. These are the weapons of the information age that are used against the population in general. When individuals speak about 'revolution' or warlike intimations - this helps the malevolent to gain. WAR IS OFF THE TABLE. The tradition of war, slaughter, dislocation by gender, age, race, religion, or region is no longer effective in the sense of historical successes using these avenues to further and develop fear/hate. The currently in charge 'shadow governments' worldwide understand the futility of war at those levels and it is just not going to be considered as an option.

Yup

It sucks that such a well learned man has a negative opinion on the fate of mankind....sigh. As I said in the past, I am not sure if the world is "savable" (that's not our responsibility anyways), but I think its all about those individual souls who truly want to make a difference. I greatly enjyoed his project camelot interview though...confirmed lots of what I've been researching/intuitively felt.

Good bein on tha journey with ya...although more and more lately my mind has been sharper, and well- being around people in some ways is becoming difficult. Knowledge can misguide us, but it can also make all the difference. Not feeling human, not just physically/mentally/spiritually, but in almost every way imaginable is a strange feeling. When the truths become so "easy to see" and most have not even asked a question-reality becomes a strange thing to live in haha.

Anyways....gotta stay positive!

[FirstWave]

It's tied into timewave zero, the end of the Mayan calendar and the apocalypse. What does that all mean? It means that we are getting to a point where there will be no more secrets and people will not blindly obey. The consciousness is changing just like the earth is changing and the Egyptians are acting it out.

[Aris_G.o.w.]

It tied into timewave zero, the end of the Mayan calendar and the apocalypse. What does that all mean? It means that we are getting to a point where there will be no more secrets and people will not blindly obey. The consciousness is changing just like the earth is changing and the Egyptians are acting it out.

i love that statement. i hope it is so

[Magnus]

tmt wrote:

More importantly, do not look at anything with fear or negative intent. These are the weapons of the information age that are used against the population in general. When individuals speak about 'revolution' or warlike intimations - this helps the malevolent to gain.

I think this is true. Fear is a main power of demonic forces.

[tmt]

It was meant to diminish the USA, but it did not. Just Obama. That is an additional gift from the Norway Spiral - it focused attention on the individual aspect of character. Obama's actions and arrogant greed in accepting an award without earning it are a reflection of his own character NOT the character of America.

Yes indeedy, keep your eye's on the 3 cups, as for Obama's flop I would say thats a good move

[AmentiHall]

Yes, fear, war like intentions, and huge violent revolutions will only feed the cycle. Furthermore it is what the puppet masters want, because they already have dozens of forms of martial law and hidden directives set up within various governmental systems so that when that day comes- they are able to employ them with ease. In otherwords, have the excuse to drastically militarize and change even the US government for their own gain at that particular moment in time.

The control system, the prison system if you will is an encapsulated matrix which begun long ago. Yes it is designed both in the manifest way our bodies/dna picks up "reality" and creates it, but the ability for the spiritual "sun" or self to radiate and manifest is as equally tangible. The issue is this takes work, determination, and ots of introspection. The solutions to everything is obviously quite simple, but something in our "bodily" nature, not to mention the prison system around ourselves makes it incredibly hard to see. The Veil is multi layered.

And yes it is becoming undone

The age of transparency is on its way. But do not underestimate the false ones (because I don't like calling them simply dark or demonic), they are very, very brilliant and we must be able to stay within the positive mind frame (as you say) and also discerning.

[Jeannie]

It was meant to diminish the USA, but it did not. Just Obama. That is an additional gift from the Norway Spiral - it focused attention on the individual aspect of character. Obama's actions and arrogant greed in accepting an award without earning it are a reflection of his own character NOT the character of America.

I have to agree about his accepting the peace prize without having earned it on his own merit. I think it was in recognition that we have come so far in accepting color to have placed a man of color in the White House. If that was what the prize was for then it should have been given to the people of the United States instead. It was the voters who placed a man of color in office showing that as a nation we have made peace with the past and forgiven our society for being against those of color.

So really shouldn't the Nobel had gone to us/the US?

And I am now off topic for my own thread.....lol

[tmt]

If I were a man of color, I would take it as a slap in the face if that was the reasoning. "Oh, let's give the black man a Nobel for winning an election." sounds like giving Rover a doggie treat for herding the sheep so well at the local contest. As if his blackness is a handicap to overcome.

If the Republican ticket won instead, should we have given the Nobel to Sara Palin for being a woman?

In my opinion, the Nobel should be earned by merit of the individual and their contribution to world peace. That is what it was designed to do. The benefactor, Alfred Nobel was the inventor of dynamite and when his brother died, the newspaper ran an obituary of Alfred Nobel in error. The article included references to dynamite and the advances of technology in weaponry and war due to the stabilization of explosive material. Alfred was disgusted at the thought of being remembered in this way and proceeded to create the endowment for the Nobel Peace prize.

I have to agree about his accepting the peace prize without having earned it on his own merit. I think it was in recognition that we have come so far in accepting color to have placed a man of color in the White House. If that was what the prize was for then it should have been given to the people of the United States instead. It was the voters who placed a man of color in office showing that as a nation we have made peace with the past and forgiven our society for being against those of color.

So really shouldn't the Nobel had gone to us/the US?

And I am now off topic for my own thread.....lol

[AmongTheLillies]

I fear the US will become more authoritarian in the future as well, as things play out. Luckily, militaries will be losing their power. The current state of things is propped up on faith and momentum, but underneath it all, just going by the financial ledger, the US is about the most insolvent country there is, so it is like a powerless third world country still carrying a big stick and waving around big toys. The chess pieces are likely to tumble. I hope people have the awareness or desire to come up with something better, outside the order of empire and rulers. With so many changes afoot, we will likely have to work together and forget about the things that divide us.

[AmongTheLillies]

I have to agree about his accepting the peace prize without having earned it on his own merit. I think it was in recognition that we have come so far in accepting color to have placed a man of color in the White House. If that was what the prize was for then it should have been given to the people of the United States instead. It was the voters who placed a man of color in office showing that as a nation we have made peace with the past and forgiven our society for being against those of color.

So really shouldn't the Nobel had gone to us/the US?

And I am now off topic for my own thread.....lol

There's a novel thought! We are in the middle of two wars, have over 700 military bases stationed around the world,
and have been beating the drums of war towards Iran and North Korea for years now, meanwhile the majority of American
people sit at home apathetically, latching on to every sound byte the watered down news delivers them, like they were
vacationing at Disney World. Why shouldn't the US get the Nobel Peace Prize, just for the sake of irony?

[tmt]

Apocalypse (Greek: Ἀποκάλυψις Apokálypsis; "lifting of the veil"), is a term applied to the disclosure to certain privileged persons of something hidden from the majority of humankind. Today the term is often used to mean "End of planet Earth", which may be a shortening of the phrase apokalupsis eschaton which literally means "revelation at the end of the æon, or age".


Origins

Apocalypse technically refers to a revelation of God's Will (Bible), not to some knowledge that is or will remain hidden or unknowable. Thus, in Revelation, we see a clear pattern of future events: the various periods of the true church, shown through the letters to the seven churches in this age, which age ends in apostasy; the throne of God in Heaven and His Glory; the judgments that will occur on the earth; the final form of gentile power; God' re-dealing with the nation Israel [1] based upon covenants mentioned in the Old Testament; the second coming proper; the one-thousand year reign of Messiah; the last test of Mankind's sinful nature under ideal conditions by the loosing of Satan, with the judgment of fire coming down from Heaven that follows; the Great White Throne Judgment, and the destruction of the current heavens and the earth, to be recreated as a "New Heaven and New Earth" [2] [3] [4], ushering in the beginning of Eternity.


Terminology

Apocalypse, in the terminology of early Jewish and Christian literature, is a revelation of hidden things revealed by God to a chosen prophet or apostle. The term is often used to describe the written account of such a revelation. Apocalyptic literature is of considerable importance in the history of the Judeo-Christian-Islamic beliefs and traditions, because it makes specific references to beliefs such as the resurrection of the dead, judgment day, eternal life, final judgment and perdition. Apocalyptic beliefs predate Christianity, appear throughout other religions, and have been assimilated into contemporary secular society, especially through popular culture (see Apocalypticism). Apocalyptic beliefs also occur in other religious systems, for example, the Hindu concept of pralay.


Changes in meaning from the Second Century A.D. to the present time

From the Second Century A.D. onward, the term "Apocalypse" was applied to a number of books, both Jewish and Christian, which show the same characteristic features. Besides the Apocalypse of John (now generally called the Book of Revelation) included in the New Testament, the Muratorian fragment, Clement of Alexandria, and others mention an Apocalypse of Peter. Apocalypses of Adam and Abraham (Epiphanius) and of Elias (Jerome) are also mentioned; see, for example, the six titles of this kind in the "List of the 60 Canonical Books"[5]; and also Development of the New Testament canon.

The use of the Greek noun to designate writings belonging to a certain literary genre is of Christian origin, the original norm of the class being the New Testament Book of Revelation. In 1832 Gottfried Christian Friedrich Lücke explored the word "Apocalypse" as a description of the book of Revelation, a usage obtained from the opening words of the book which refer to an apocalypse (prophecy) of Jesus Christ given to John, who wrote the text. In Greek the opening words are 'Aπōκάλυψις 'Iησōῦ Χριστōῦ.


Characteristic features

Apocalyptic religious writings are regarded as a distinct branch of literature. This genre has several characteristic features.


Dreams or Visions

The disclosure of future events is made through a dream, as was the experience for the prophet Daniel,[6] which is recorded in the book with his name, or a vision as was recorded by John in the Book of Revelation. Moreover, the manner of the revelation and the experience of the one who received it are generally prominent. The account is usually given in the first person. There is something portentous in the circumstances corresponding to the importance of the secrets about to be disclosed. The element of the mysterious, often prominent in the vision itself, is foreshadowed in the preliminary events. Some of the persistent features of the apocalyptic tradition are connected with the circumstances of the vision and the personal experience of the seer.

The primary example of apocalyptic literature in the Hebrew Bible is the book of Daniel. After a long period of fasting[7], Daniel is standing by a river when a heavenly being appears to him, and the revelation follows (Daniel 10:2ff). John, in the New Testament Revelation (1:9ff), has a like experience, told in very similar words. Compare also the first chapter of the Greek Apocalypse of Baruch; and the Syriac Apocalypse of Baruch, vi.1ff, xiii.1ff, lv.1-3. Or, as the prophet lies upon his bed, distressed for the future of his people, he falls into a sort of trance, and in "the visions of his head" is shown the future. This is the case in Daniel 7:1ff; 2 Esdras 3:1-3; and in the Book of Enoch, i.2 and following. As to the description of the effect of the vision upon the seer, see Daniel 8:27; Enoch, lx.3; 2 Esdras 5:14.


Angels

The introduction of Angels as the bearers of the revelation is a standing feature. At least two angel-classes are mentioned in biblical scripture: the Cherubim and the Seraphim. God may give instructions through the medium of these heavenly messengers, and who act as the seer's guide. God may also personally give a revelation, as is shown in the Book of Revelation through the person of Jesus Christ.

There is hardly an example of a true Apocalypse in which the instrumentality of angels in giving the message is not made prominent. In the Assumption of Moses, which consists mainly of a detailed prediction of the course of Israelite and Jewish history, the announcement is given to Joshua by Moses, just before the death of the latter. So, too, in the Sibylline Oracles, which are for the most part a foretelling of future events, the Sibyl is the only speaker. Neither of these books are truly representative of apocalyptic literature in the narrower sense.


"Beast" - Endtime Ruler; also known as Antichrist

In the Old and New Testaments, a particular individual is singled out as the particular focus of God's wrath. This individual is known in biblical scripture by many titles such as the "beast", the "little horn"[17][18], the "prince that will come" and other titles. One ancient prince was singled out in scripture, the Prince of Tyrus, who may be considered a 'type' of antichrist. [19]

After the judgment of the Prince of Tyrus, God directs the prophet Ezekiel to write a judgment about the King of Tyrus, and from the scripture is learned that this individual is not a human being, but "the anointed cherub that covereth". [20] From further reading of the text it is learned that the cherub being addressed here is Lucifer (or Satan), as this was his former position before the throne of God before his fall. Satan is also viewed as a 'prince'[21] [22][23] that will eventually be judged.


Future

Apocalyptic visions through the writing of these scriptures is how the prophet is revealed God's justice as taking place in the future. This genre has a distinctly religious aim, intended to show God's way of dealing with humankind, and God's ultimate purposes. The writer presents, sometimes very vividly, a picture of coming events, especially those connected with the end of the present age. In certain of these writings the subject-matter is vaguely described as "that which shall come to pass in the latter days" (Daniel 2:28[24]; compare verse 29); similarly Daniel 10:14, "to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days"[25]; compare Enoch, i.1, 2; x.2ff. So, too, in Revelation 1:1 (compare the Septuagint translation of Daniel 2:28ff), "Revelation . . . that which must shortly come to pass."

Past history is often included in the vision, usually in order to give the proper historical setting to the prediction, as the panorama of successive events passes over imperceptibly from the known to the unknown. Thus, in the eleventh chapter of Daniel, the detailed history of the Greek empire in the East, from the conquest of Alexander down to the latter part of the reign of Antiochus Epiphanes (verses 3-39, all presented in the form of a prediction), is continued, without any break, in a scarcely less vivid description (verses 40-45) of events which had not yet taken place, but were only expected by the writer: the wars which should result in the death of Antiochus and the fall of his kingdom. All this, however, serves only as the introduction to the remarkable eschatological predictions in the twelfth chapter, in which the main purpose of the book is to be found. Similarly, in the dream recounted in 2 Esdras 11 and 12, the eagle, representing the Roman Empire, is followed by the lion, which is the promised Messiah, who is to deliver the chosen people and establish an everlasting kingdom. The transition from history to prediction is seen in xii.28, where the expected end of Domitian's reign -- and with it the end of the world -- is foretold.

Still another example of the same kind is Sibyllines, iii.608-623. Compare also Assumptio Mosis, vii-ix. In nearly all the writings which are properly classed as apocalyptic the eschatological element is prominent. The growth of speculation regarding the age to come and the hope for the chosen people more than anything else occasioned the rise and influenced the development of apocalyptic literature.

Though it is often defined as tragic end of life on the planet. Many zealots hope to bring it about, all have failed because God the Father is the only portion of the Holy Trinity that knows this moment of revelation.

Here's an interesting group that tried:

Knights of the Apocalypse

The Knights of the Apocalypse was a secret society created in Italy in 1693. Agostino Gabrino, the son of a merchant of Brescia, was its founder. Its professed aim was to defend the Catholic Church against the expected Antichrist, but it was accused of having political motives as well. On Palm Sunday 1693, when the choir of St Peter's was chanting Quis est iste Rex Gloriae? Gabrino sword in hand, rushed to the altar crying Ego sum Rex Gloriae. Though Gabrino was treated as a madman, the society flourished, until a member denounced it to the Inquisition, who arrested the knights. Though chiefly mechanics they always carried swords even when at work, and wore on their breasts a star with seven rays. Gabrino styled himself monarch of the Holy Trinity.

http://www.websters-online-dictionar...&sa=Search#922

It's tied into timewave zero, the end of the Mayan calendar and the apocalypse. What does that all mean? It means that we are getting to a point where there will be no more secrets and people will not blindly obey. The consciousness is changing just like the earth is changing and the Egyptians are acting it out.

[tmt]

This is not a novel thought, it's closer to the droning whine of the "do something, but not that" armchair quarterbacks of world management. Stick to watching and nothing more, you would never make it on the actual stage.

Just because the USA chooses to remain a strong presence around the globe does not mean we have to be warlike and most of our troops are engaged in humanitarian endeavors.

Lastly, it would be completely idiotic to give a Nobel to a country. It is designed to be given to individuals.

There's a novel thought! We are in the middle of two wars, have over 700 military bases stationed around the world,
and have been beating the drums of war towards Iran and North Korea for years now, meanwhile the majority of American
people sit at home apathetically, latching on to every sound byte the watered down news delivers them, like they were
vacationing at Disney World. Why shouldn't the US get the Nobel Peace Prize, just for the sake of irony?

[AmongTheLillies]

I think what you were getting at, FirstWave, was what Terence Mckenna alluded to regarding 2012 and the Mayan calender. If I am not mistaken, he came up with the idea of Timewave Zero by using the I Ching. It's the point at which the world becomes more and more novel until it reaches a singularity point where all is possible, or a period of enlightenment. Society has certainly grown more and more complex, and it is also reaching a sort of apex, and perhaps entropy. This will likely open to the door for many changes in itself.

[AmongTheLillies]

This is not a novel thought, it's closer to the droning whine of the "do something, but not that" armchair quarterbacks of world management. Stick to watching and nothing more, you would never make it on the actual stage.

Just because the USA chooses to remain a strong presence around the globe does not mean we have to be warlike and most of our troops are engaged in humanitarian endeavors.

Lastly, it would be completely idiotic to give a Nobel to a country. It is designed to be given to individuals.

Completely idiotic? It was sarcasm on my part; I thought that was pretty evident. And if you think that the strong presence
of troops in the world is more of a humanitarian effort, then you are naive. If it were truly a global humanitarian program, troops
would be wearing plain clothes, delivering food to the starving, and working to build communities, not carrying rifles, shooting
people, toppling regimes, supporting dictators, and being overall cogs in the wheel for global power and empire. Wake up.

[KalEl]

Just want to say while am in my Asmodeus mood.

I hear these suits, saying stop this and stop that in Egypt, Cameron says it Obama says it etc, as if over 200,000 Egyptians, are going to go, ok they said so so we are just going to go back to be good little robots, do these suits realise how stupid they look, its like asking water, can you stop running down the mountain, its not on water stop it now, I SAID STOP IT NOW, its no good other suits, I told the water and it wont stop running.

That being said world leaders you look STUPID right now, they are looking like they need straight jackets.

Its really funny though, wonder what would happen if Akashaa Mooji-fied em

[Magnus]

I think what you were getting at, FirstWave, was what Terence Mckenna alluded to regarding 2012 and the Mayan calender. If I am not mistaken, he came up with the idea of Timewave Zero by using the I Ching. It's the point at which the world becomes more and more novel until it reaches a singularity point where all is possible, or a period of enlightenment. Society has certainly grown more and more complex, and it is also reaching a sort of apex, and perhaps entropy. This will likely open to the door for many changes in itself.

Maybe the singularity he was seeing was transhumanism. The next leap in our evolutionary development may be based in technology. Imagine exercising this kind of free will...

Singularity: When technology advances to the stage that we can no longer predict the ramifications. The time when social, political, cultural, technical, and/or religious preconceptions no longer apply. The break between what we know and what we cannot fathom. An event--or events--that cause massive change in the very fabric of our human-ness. Generally thought to foreshadow across-the-board positive changes, yielding many advances in science, longevity, survival of the species, social responsibility, and the like. Also considered evolutionary -- as in the next stage of human development.

See also the Singularitarian Lexicon

http://home.mchsi.com/~deering9/futurenano.html

[AmentiHall]

I have to disagree and say that the technological path of transhumanism IMO is a wrong path. All the abilities for "paranormal" or even ESP are embedded deep within the cellular structure, the dna, and within ourselves. The human body is capable of great things, technology as a means to enhance this? Sure, but with the right maturity and mindframe.

As Einstein said, technology has far eclipsed humans, it has surpassed our spiritual maturity. I believe in this case, technology as a means to create harmony on our planet to facilitate life in a way that promotes well being and health (even spiritual) for everyone. But not as a means to simply empower us at the egotistical, physical level.

But I do agree with what you said, that the next step is transhumanism as if in an evolutionary leap. I do believe, that there are evolutionary paths. I think, humans should take the route which allows them to become spiritually and bio-physically in tune with the universe, and not just have technology do it for them. And yet, technology and science as a means to enhance this connection and finally bring an end to poverty and starvation

[tmt]

I don't THINK it I KNOW it. My brother in law in his last deployment, was assigned to protecting the Red Cross and other charity organizations from warring factions in Africa. My brother when he was in the Navy was on a ship that simply sat and monitored the distribution of goods from charitable organizations in the Middle East. My whole family is military, so please don't try to tell me what you have heard or been told. I lived the military and their peaceful deployment throughout the globe.

You are profoundly uninformed if you believe the drivel you read or see on television. Ask a Vet or active military and you will be much closer to the truth.

Completely idiotic? It was sarcasm on my part; I thought that was pretty evident. And if you think that the strong presence
of troops in the world is more of a humanitarian effort, then you are naive. If it were truly a global humanitarian program, troops
would be wearing plain clothes, delivering food to the starving, and working to build communities, not carrying rifles, shooting
people, toppling regimes, supporting dictators, and being overall cogs in the wheel for global power and empire. Wake up.

[tmt]

I like that idea, the Akashaa Mooji-fied. Though I would call it 'Moji-fier' as fier means truth.

Just want to say while am in my Asmodeus mood.


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I hear these suits, saying stop this and stop that in Egypt, Cameron says it Obama says it etc, as if over 200,000 Egyptians, are going to go, ok they said so so we are just going to go back to be good little robots, do these suits realise how stupid they look, its like asking water, can you stop running down the mountain, its not on water stop it now, I SAID STOP IT NOW, its no good other suits, I told the water and it wont stop running.

That being said world leaders you look STUPID right now, they are looking like they need straight jackets.

Its really funny though, wonder what would happen if Akashaa Mooji-fied em