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[Clandestined]

I found this site years ago, was very intriguing but I was not ready for the information contained in it. Have since found it again, by chance, and feel it is imperative I share some of this with you all- open as a forum for discussion.


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For those of you with the time to read a VERY LENGTHY yet FASCINATING article about the working of COINTELPRO that may or may not apply to IS as we know it (again, for discussion purposes) please use the following link:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/intro08.htm

The entire cassiopaea site is very interesting- and has stood the test of time, I think i found it in 2003 and is still in operation now.

For those of you who do not have the time, I will include a quote from the site that I find very troubling, the more I think about it. From this we can discuss what we deem are problems that we face that we are NOT talking about, and that we are NOT DOING about. Hope this sparks a great discussion and we can, in turn, help each other face the REAL adversary, once we figure out what that adversary is.

Machiavelli observed that religion and its teachings of uncritical faith, hope, charity, love, humility and patience under suffering were factors that render men weak and cause them to care less about worldly and political things, and thus they will turn political power over to wicked men who are not influenced by such ideals (though they may easily pretend to be). Of course, the real trick is to convince people that the "afterlife" is the only thing worth thinking about, and it is to this end that the monotheistic religions have been formulated. It is also to this end that many of the New Age beliefs and "formulations" of the "subjective truths" seem to have been engineered. All you have to do is have faith or meditate so as to feel "love" for everything and everybody. Nothing is said about the day by day struggle, and the necessity for action that could contribute to different, positive outcome in the present, objective reality in which we live and move and have our being. The future is forged in the present by what we DO. The Butterfly Effect.

This brings us back to the problem we face in our reality: that "the science of living beings" has not proceeded apace with the sciences dealing with the physical objects in our reality.

It also seems that counter-intelligence has played such a HUGE field in New Age beliefs. I strongly urge anyone and everyone with sufficient attention to read the article linked above. I am only ankle deep in beginning to understand what cassiopaea is all about. I will continue my research and report back to this thread what I find relative to Indigo's (which I believe in and is very important to me) and Indigo Society.

ANY AND ALL FEEDBACK IS STRONGLY ENCOURAGED!!

[Ignis]

I've read the page and it does make some interesting points. Paired with your quote, the implications are unsettling.

I've often considered such possibilities myself. It's not hard to see that religion serves those in power as a means of control. It's also not hard to see that there are those who don't respond to that system of control at all--those who ask questions and insist on answers, those who don't accept automatically everything that is offered to their minds, those who are individualistic and will go their own way.

It's always seemed to me that if the Powers That Be have gone to the trouble to wrest control of major religions, the media, government and the economy, and industry, they must have a way of sweeping up the people who ask questions, too. I've often thought of a lot of New Age material as nothing more than a new religion with broader boundaries, expanded for the purpose of fitting oddballs into its scheme.

By and large I'm not satisfied by most of the New Age authors who manage to find notoriety. There's always been something fishy about them to me. I always assumed they got so successful by finding a formula that sells and jumping on it. I hadn't considered that they might be part of a scheme of disinformation but I did suspect they were more about serving themselves and making money. Either way I felt something "off" about them. To say nothing about the authenticity of people like John Edwards and Sylvia Browne, it just seems to me that they wouldn't be so widely publicized if they posed a threat to the system. I don't even bother going to places like the New Age section at Border's. I've found it to be a waste of my time, pretty much jam-packed with the material about the Grays and Satanic Abuse. David Icke writes some wacked out stuff that combines both. Very interesting, but totally nuts in my opinion.

But to point some criticism at the web page you listed, like many other sites and pages that focus on conspiracy, not much is offered in the way of proof. Many things are said as statement of fact and the reader is expected to take it all at face value. Particularly when FBI or CIA projects are discussed, names of these projects are given, and terminology such as "as most people know" seems to be used in reference to them, like, "Yeah, everyone's heard of Operation Often. Get with the times!" That's not to say those references don't exist; but I don't see citations and that bothers me. I used to get very wrapped up in conspiracy theories, but I realized that hard evidence is lacking in them. Very interesting ideas are discussed, and they're plausible on some level, but in order for the flow of logic to remain valid, one must assume that all parts of the equation, including massive government mind control, are true. The reader may often make those assumptions for the sake of seeing how the presented big picture fits together, and then the fear sets in and overwhelms logic for the time. The picture becomes frightening and debilitating to some. It's happened to me in the past, and then in a couple days I start to think about the lack of evidence, and the whole house of cards comes tumbling down.

WHo knows? It's just as likely that the government creates stories about its own supposed secret mind control programs and CIA spooks to frighten inquiring minds into believing they have capabilities that they really don't? How do we know those sites aren't the real disinformation, put there to scare us or cast doubt? It's much easier to whip up a campaign of disinformation and make people think you're controlling their mind than it is to actually do it, and it serves very well to confuse people who find New Age material to be a real source of empowerment. Not all New Age material turns its readers into complacent sheep awaiting the dawn of the Fifth Density.

[Clandestined]

Thank you for the sincere reply. I agree one hundred percent, and as I've said before I test certain ideas for their resiliency and the Machiavelli reference struck me! I thought about it and thought about it. When it comes to actual doing I haven't much been productive recently- maybe that's what I feel I'm lacking in. Action.

But that's impossible, it is the 'butterfly effect' to co-exist and thus enhance peoples lives accordingly and there would be no way for me not to make impact. That is the illusion. I have changed more in this world that I will ever come to realize (realization as I perceive it now) and guilt for not doing more in my life and others' lives is counter-productive. I am doing. I am creating. I am... accepting all of this.

I also recommend reading the introduction to the cassiopaea website:
www.cassiopaea.org and then if your interest piques you, as mine sure has, you can navigate through and find the series of writings having little or nothing to do with conspiracy theories, but the bulk of material that was kinda forced 'underground'. This is called the wave series, though I think I started reading it prematurely, like I am missing tidbits of information that have been covered before... Either way, you may enjoy the site. And Thank You

[EnemyAtLineSix]

I found this site years ago, was very intriguing but I was not ready for the information contained in it. Have since found it again, by chance, and feel it is imperative I share some of this with you all- open as a forum for discussion.

For those of you with the time to read a VERY LENGTHY yet FASCINATING article about the working of COINTELPRO that may or may not apply to IS as we know it (again, for discussion purposes) please use the following link:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/intro08.htm

The entire cassiopaea site is very interesting- and has stood the test of time, I think i found it in 2003 and is still in operation now.

For those of you who do not have the time, I will include a quote from the site that I find very troubling, the more I think about it. From this we can discuss what we deem are problems that we face that we are NOT talking about, and that we are NOT DOING about. Hope this sparks a great discussion and we can, in turn, help each other face the REAL adversary, once we figure out what that adversary is.



It also seems that counter-intelligence has played such a HUGE field in New Age beliefs. I strongly urge anyone and everyone with sufficient attention to read the article linked above. I am only ankle deep in beginning to understand what cassiopaea is all about. I will continue my research and report back to this thread what I find relative to Indigo's (which I believe in and is very important to me) and Indigo Society.

ANY AND ALL FEEDBACK IS STRONGLY ENCOURAGED!!

its interesting.
i totally agree with whats been said in the first post, especially the quoted part of it. that isnt here?
knowing everything and knowing nothing
its a fairly simple puzzle to digest, if you can willingly accept that all parts of the whole are equal and serve a purpose , even that which doesnt serve you, serves a purpose to you. interesting how THAT works.
its saying, i know what i know because i have a purpose to know this, it serves me., i know not of that for it doesnt serve me to know that.
when it serves me to know this, i will know that.
get it?