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    Unconditional Love and the Ego Part 3 in series


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    UnConditional Love is the Real love of God....and the Truth in Higher thought or higher dimensions of consciousness...Ego cannot go here..as we truly connect with the One consciousness from within, Ego disappears, ceases to exist. So lets take a look at some of the qualities of an ego and true love for they cannot exist together. The ego has set up belief systems we can also call BS for convenience, within the realms of higher thought there are not any belief systems, only openness and honesty without any filters, in truth, unlimited thought with no boundries. Love never judges, condemns, controls or puts things in any order, the ego however, blames, critizizes, seperates, puts importance on something outside of self and has neat little boxes to compartmentalize everything instead of seeing everything wholistically. The ego always is looking for anwers outside and then demands proof, while real love requires no proof it allows, accepts, and embraces from within and sees all whole and perfect as it is. The ego is unable to change, it is static, inconsistant, defends as if there were something to defend and dictates that the ego's way is the only way. When in truth unconditional love and the true being are the only way through. Love always offers knowledge of SELF to empower others and continues consistently to practice love in action as an example, ego can only offer the illusion of love for the true being of love is always in the present, while ego is in the past and the future. Love always tells the truth no matter what, and ego always runs from the truth, because it cannot exist any longer when truth is presented. Nor can ego even "see" the truth because it has no clue what real is and so it "forces" and justifies its stance, as well as it can be very subtle and appear as real love, however ego is unable to grow and change as in love its constant growth and change. Love is transforming and brings about equality for all. In closing true death is the letting go of the ego, so the space can then be filled with joy of the true inner being and with the Love energy the more we bring in is when the body begins transforming itself into ETERNITY> Love is all there is, Love is the answer...

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    yes, the words seem to correctly connect with unconditional love but do we realize it applies to the ugliest actions upon this earth?????

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    If there is action and it is not loved can there be unconditional love???? Now the trick is to love the person not the action in all truth. It one was to delve truly in the subject I imagine that none would love the action including the players in the drama. Yet if there is a force that we label unconditional love and that force exists then that force would love everything. So either the players in that drama would be loved by such a force or such a force would not be true.

    Now I am going to speak a little more boldly upon this subject since this is the second time I have had someone respond to unconditional love with about the most atrocious act that could be found though this instances it is not quite as harsh as the last. It is easy to love Mia but much harder to love Charles Manson or any other individual whom does things to others that are despicable yet unconditional love demands love with no conditions that is why it is such a hard space to find and even harder to hold.

    Now I just happen to believe this physical body is just a vehicle I have used ( built ) to come down to this plane to experience energy in. It is something like a car and when my car is damaged in an accident I do not want to kill the individual who damaged my car. What happens to this physical body does not happen to I only to this physical body which I presently inhabit. I am far greater then this physical body. When this physical body dies and we all know it will die I do not die I transition to another form. When I am ready or when the desire becomes great enough I will again build a physical vehicle and return to this plane. I do this to learn and everything that happen here in this illusion which seems so real is but illusion for nothing here harms my true self. So if two individuals chose to come here and experience something that here is judged to be despicable that is their right. That always gets me what if right in front of you so and so did this to so and so you would just watch. Well it ain't agonna happen in front of me the energy that I chose to surround myself with and to hold will not let such drama take place. I can not convey this properly across cyber space but if you were to experience me in the physical or astral as far as that is concerned over so called time you would begin to know what I here say. This is not my first trip down here and while it may not be my last it is getting near.

    Now for the record, I have many times mounted my steed, adorned my armor and slain the bloody dragon to such a point that the dragons chose to play away from where I stand. I been to war in many lifetimes including this one I have slain the dragon called fear in this life and many others I do not chose to experience the energy that silly people tend to bring up in response to true unconditional love and I do not care which of you out there believes or disbelieves what I write or choses to respond that you can not have unconditional love in all aspects of this world. I honor your right to live in the ugly of this creation if you so chose but do not in the least of your thoughts think that I will join you in such action. I have been there done that and have the tee shirt to prove it more then one time. I believe in the force of unconditional love and while I might not understand why some things happen in this world exactly I have strong feeling as to the energy that is allow to linger here that allows such things to take place and that energy comes from us. In that respect we are responsible for every act that takes place on this plane of existence if it may be called such. It is a cumulative creation which everyone of us contributes to. When we all reach far and work to achieve true unconditional love we will no longer experience those thing made of low energy and heaven will be here upon this earth. That is what these eyes see as the heart of what Lay Element and the group she is working with wishes to share with us but who am I to make such bold statements but one individual among many who may or may not be correct. Thank you for this opportunity to express.

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    i hear and feel you.i think the unconditional love, does have feeling.
    it FEELS like you feel. and speaks how you speak, and all the things that you choose to do. i think things served a purpose and now the things that were in a part of human behavior that no longer serve are being dissolved into source to be turned into something new again. people can and will take what you say and twist it according to their own view, im a walking example of having that experience happen to me. believe me.

    all we're trying to do is to get people to realize that there is no division, we are here for each other and nothing we say is meant to harm hurt or push people away.
    its just we love people so much we dont want to see them go DOWN you know?
    we want them to go up, but as we know, we cannot force, we must accept allow and embrace the choice of another. and continue on with our own experience.
    one cannot dictate to another, tribalized democracy + integrity = where we need to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice View Post
    In my reality.. world 2, the world where ascended masters, angels and light beings are, how I view it.

    There is a Allience, JC Buddha, Ascended Masters the Angels, Light Beings are in this Allience. Billion and billions of beings/planets in it etc.(our higher selves)

    To be a part of this Allience, means, To not violate free will, No Murder ,No rape and No tourture.

    If we on present earth was totaly in and a part of the Allience we would not do that , and the Earth would be in world 2.

    The earth is shifting to that, world 2, and will becoem a part of The Allience,etc.

    But the New Earth is also already exsisting in world 2.

    Love to All.

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    Don't we need the ego in order to remain an individual?
    I do not see why God would remove our egos, because he created all of us individually for a reason. Remove one person from life, and all their scenarios and experiance (including people, places, and objects they came into contact in) would not exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice View Post
    I apologize if my comments are seen as silly or some kind of taint to the thread.The angle I am trying to express is difficult to put in words.
    I would not murder/rape tourture anyone, (I apologize if some people find those words offencive) is not a act of love to me. Buts its possable to love the soul and spirit unconditionaly and forgive them for doing the act.

    Here I am talking about acts done embodying the force of Love, for me not all acts are done embodying that force, but that force can forgive and love unconditionaly all souls and spirits and Life as one, The All. everything happens for a reason in my view, but we all grow and hopefully evolve.

    In my meditations my inner world, my source experiecnes, tell me that My Higher Selves,Ascended Masters, Angels and ArchAngels, Light beings etc Gods/Goddess, do not murder, rape and tourture and they do not violate free will . thats what I am told/experience in my inner world, so I apologize but I will trust that over any channeling, book , teacher or person on earth.

    In my personal opinion it was niave for me personly,(I did practise that beleaf for some years) to think every act a being can do , is all part of there plans at the highest level of them self . Makes me wonder what sort of love they is feeling or what they even call love. Thats why I am in a way weary and dont trust so much people who say love is not a feeling, and many dont practise that feeling, becasue then tis all mind stuff, in my personal view. I do know its very possable for a person/being to send love and another not feel it.

    To me tis a beleaf created, so that some people can sleep better at night,its something some people can slip back into when everything gets to much and they cant deal , , some can use it for really nice feelings and a source of inspiration. I feel it has slipped into just about most of the teachings on the planet, particulary the big non-duality beleafs which of course is there free will and I honor it.

    If people want to try and point and assume the dragon slayer white horse hero tag at me from my words, I cant help they get that from my words, to me its just simply they are not understanding me properly and assumeing things from my words, or storys of the past I might of told.As only I know myself. Unity is the path for me.

    I feel if I really wanted to I could go and live in the mountain, and sit is bliss just about most of the day, as for me I do know a system of beleafs I can practice that can bring that.(but they are not the truth,imo) I am interested in the Truth, and with that comes things I may not want to actualy know.I feel with acts,it all comes down to what a person feels and thinks a Unconditional Loveing and Enlightend being would be like.

    JC who in my view, had many energies try and get rid of him and his message on earth, and done all sorts of horable things to him, and he said "forgive them for they know not what they do" In my view in one way, its becasue if people knew what they was doing, they wouldnt rape murder and tourture and violate free will in the horable ways they do.Many on earth have had amnesia for a long time. Its a bit rough to get down on somone if they cant rememebr anything , no memory. JC did not do those sorts of hoarable things ,and as far as I know most of the famous earth masters didnt. maybe some probably did at some point of there evolutionary exsistence.



    Love to All.

    ROFLMAO, you will have to excuse the last outburst as it seems much of it was from a past experience. When you wrote that rape and murder watching may have been my gig it brought back other memories of other words of similar value and it seems I may have let some of that energy hang about. ( if soemoen was trying to murder and rape soemoen in front of me I wouldnt love that action, I understand that might be your gig, ) Rereading it brings a different prospective though what I wrote is what I feel when comforted by behavior I have not had. Saying something will not happen in this life and watching atrocious behavior seem to be much different. My point was that we cannot hate any actor for their role in any drama on this plane though we need not accept the act and we are certainly in agreement on that. Much love and light to you Juice and thank you for the opportunity to express.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charity View Post
    Don't we need the ego in order to remain an individual?
    I do not see why God would remove our egos, because he created all of us individually for a reason. Remove one person from life, and all their scenarios and experiance (including people, places, and objects they came into contact in) would not exist.
    Depends on the teaching and the definition of this thing ego as it seems to have many different meanings. It can be a very confusing word.

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    LadyElement, what is your definition of ego? I would like to know before posting anymore in this thread.

    It's like talking about experiance at a Nintendo convention.
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    My Definition of an ego is(and I shall try to explain this as best i can) like when someone posts nothing but unconditional love and out of fear the ego attacks,so i guess one might say for me ego is fear itself that takes off running in the other direction or attacks when one shares nothing but unconditional love

    does that make sense? sometimes when i try to explain things my thoughts get jumbled and i dont always make sense

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