Flower of Life - Wrong teachings?

[Kitsune]

The last days I was being bothered on how the flower of life is being interpreted by Ashayana Deane and Drunvalo Melchizedek. I was feeling that something is wrong, something doesn't fit on the way they represent it.

According to the keylontic dictionary, here are the differences between the Kathara Grid and the Metatronic Tree of Life.

Kathara Grid

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The Kathara Grid is the primary mathematical-geometrical organization of units of consciousness upon which Partiki units group to form morphogenetic field scalar grids.

Complete 12-tree Grid with Kathara Centers and complete connection points and lines. Balanced structure.

Height to width ratio = 2/1 = 2

It is geometrically structured as 12 Primary Kathara Centers connected by 15 Primary Kathara Lines.

The Krist Code allows for full At-One-ment to be experienced while being in Manifestation within Source. Eternal Life.

Perfect overlay between PCM and PKA Veca grids.
(source - keylontic dictionary)

Here is how it's applied on chakras and meridians.

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Metatronic Flower of Life

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12 & 8 centers (key grid connection points!) removed!.

No connection with Source. Finite Life.

A false center at 5 and Lines missing. No direct connection to its center.


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Width narrowed to 87% of Kathara Grid and Center 1 pulled downward.

Height to width ratio = 4 / √3 = 2.3 instead of 2.

Vertical symmetry of grid is broken.

Not possible for Veca quadrants to align properly because PCM and PKA grids cannot overlay due to width distortions and center misplacement..

Not possible to overlay with parallel grid.
(source - keylontic dictionary)

Here is how it's applied on chakras and meridians.



At the same time I downloaded in my pc the tree of life, observing it. My very first thought was the bees and how they create their hives. So I started making some research about this and I stumbled upon this site.
https://taicarmen.wordpress.com/tag/the-vitruvian-man/

So my thoughts here are, how universe is based on Golden Ratio and the Fibonacci sequence aka spiral form and the flower of life is not according to these teachings? My next step was to apply the Fibonacci spiral on the chakra system, starting from the heart as the center.

Why the heart chakra? I was observing the vitruvian man (Leonardo da Vinci's artwork) and the seed is supposed to be in the center of the solar plexus. Solar plexus has to do with ego issues and apart from that according to geometry, the seed should be on the heart chakra. The "Seed of Love" must find its place.

The expansion of the consciousness, the ascension, everything starts from the heart chakra. Unconditional love is the key. I won't start lecturing about unconditional love, there are already remarkable threads about it here in the forum.

I want to hear your thoughts about my observations. Thank you all for reading.

[Azure Prince]

think of the blue as you and the green the infinite possibilities that can be you. You need "eye's" in the back of your head to see it. It is not broken it is the change in the observer by him observing the dreamer. The watched has become the watcher.

[Kitsune]

Bump, any other thoughts?

[drakke1]

Wow -- some very complex issues here. I'll need to "try" to analyze this a bit before attempting any intelligent comment on the matter. Good for you that you have enough background to even raise the questions !!

[Kitsune]

Wow -- some very complex issues here. I'll need to "try" to analyze this a bit before attempting any intelligent comment on the matter. Good for you that you have enough background to even raise the questions !!

I forgot to mention that I had a channeling a couple days ago about these teachings. I don't know how it will make sense but I will try to explain it a bit. Ashayana Deane is not fighting Drunvalo Melchizedek but Metatron. Why is that? Metatron is one being with Drunvalo, he implies it in his biography.

It also helps explain a cryptic comment that Drunvalo once made that:

“I have known Lord Metatron from before the creation of this universe, and both of us are on every single major council on every level in this universe, along with other people of that region, of course. I know exactly how Lord Metatron feels and thinks about this subject, and he would never say anything as silly as XXX has said in his statement.”

This is because Drunvalo is what we call a “walk-in.” A walk-in is a being from a higher dimensional reality who has made a benevolent arrangement with an ordinary human being so that he can occupy a human body and personality to fulfill his task. Drunvalo “walked in” in April of 1972. The person whose body he now occupies agreed to pass on, in exchange for which his spiritual evolution was sped up and enhanced,

Drunvalo says that when he first entered his host’s body he could remember most of what his actual identity and life had been. But shortly thereafter, the vividness of these memories faded, and so, today, though he has access to higher dimensional realities in meditation and by other means, by and large, he is pretty much like any other human being.

The truth is however that he is a higher dimensional being having a human experience – and he knows it.

http://www.funfactory.spruz.com/foru...4-545BE3EA2782

I made some more research about Metatron and I stumbled upon this.

Sandalphon has also been said to be Metatron's twin brother, but I believe their relationship is not as "twins" in the way we might mean. Instead Sandalphon described himself and Metatron as being "Brothers in Arms". He pointed out that in many ways he and Metatron are polarities and mirrors of each other, although they do share many traits - such as love for humanity and the Earth; a joy in serving the Creator; a discipline and sense of positivity and impetus in carrying out the tasks they have agreed and are assigned.

They also quite obviously share a similar sense of humour. He went on to clarify how they function as a partnership: "It is not that we are two ends of the spectrum of existence. It is not that Metatron is of one side and I am of the other. The question is the difference wherein the main focus of our work lies. If you were to compare us with your energy body, you might say that he is the Soul Star to my Earth Star. There needs to be the two that are joined together in some shape or fashion, in order for information to flow from the other to the one, and the one to the other.

I show us here (demonstrates) as a circling of energy in a figure eight shape, like an infinity symbol. A constant two-way looping flow of energy and information between heaven and earth, linking the two, both on an energetic level (stabilising and supporting) and also mutually supportive and inclusive of our energies. This flow may be slow and rhythmic; it may be fast and frantic; it may be a mixture of the two. But there is always a harmony, a balance and a rhythm to the energy exchanges that take place, which are orchestrated by myself and Metatron as we work in harmony for this purpose together."

http://www.innerlightworkers.co.uk/a...sandalphon.htm

In rabbinic tradition, Sandalphon is the twin brother of Archangel Metatron and in fact one meaning of the name Sandalphon is 'co-brother'. Both Metatron and Sandalphon carry the prayers of people to God. Another meaning of his name is ' one who wears sandals before the Almighty': a reference to his humbleness in bringing forward the prayers of humanity. Sandalphon makes a garland of the prayers of the faithful and places this around the neck of the Lord.

http://www.touchedbylight.co.uk/Page...Sandalphon.htm

So the channeling is that Metatron is supposed to be the "bad" guy according to many but in fact Sandalphon is the one who is using his brother's frequencies for his plans. Ashayana Deane and Metatron / Sandalphon had a rival back to the godworlds, before time and space were created. They have admitted it already in public. (I'm sorry I couldn't find the interview that she claims it.)

More about this rival here:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age1089505/pg1

Edit: The problem here is that they are trying to prove each other wrong due to this rival. My channeling contained information or better pinpoint the absense of the golden ration and spiral in their teachings. Since when they interpret the flower of life ignoring this part and on the other hand they base their teaching on sacred geometry?

[Calibas]

Of course it's flawed, it's a 2-dimensional representation of something that can't be 2-dimensional.

[existencebeyondexperience]

calibas is very correct.

i notice at the outset that the keylontic one is symmetrical and the metatronic one leaves out the hidden, but marks it nonetheless. it's anyone's guess as to why this is, but perhaps the originators of the metatronic one wanted there to be something left to explore but this is only my conjecture.

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it would seem like the omission might be so done to hide, but i also know sometimes the tendency is to over-do things like that, when first describing something. for an excellent example, don't read the first two 'books' i wrote. alternately, the same overdoing provides a fullness to the view that, if the appropriate context is missing or lost would render the true meaning lost as well. see the second sentence of the second section of the first half of this post.

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i've seen a higher-d version of that tree and what i saw reflected both the hex-symmetrical form of a virus, as well as an octo-symmetrical tendril or trunk formed by the fact that what i saw existed in mind and not on paper, and we're right back to what calibas has just said.

[Kitsune]

calibas is very correct.

i notice at the outset that the keylontic one is symmetrical and the metatronic one leaves out the hidden, but marks it nonetheless. it's anyone's guess as to why this is, but perhaps the originators of the metatronic one wanted there to be something left to explore but this is only my conjecture.

I see both of your views - calibas and yours - but I mostly worry about those people who just blindly follow teachings without judgement. I didn't say that everything is wrong on their teachings but still there are fundamental missing points. You don't need to be an expert so as to make the observations. The one I mentioned about golden ration is based on how nature and universe works. In my opinion it's too obvious to be ignored.

[existencebeyondexperience]

the pattern of life and its offspring (egg, flower, seed, tree, garden etc.) are also demonstrations of fractal self-similarity; viewing the animations may give a sense of a spiral galaxy or a whirlpool, both physical manifestations of spiral motion on vastly different scales.

[existencebeyondexperience]

well, all i can say is i play music but feel i'm a better writer - but apparently mine is not to write, but to make music (much to my chagrin).

i gained mine by candle meditation and watching the glowing sphere materialize around the flame. chakras and sacred-g are within my realm, but not immediately so. my model exists as a dreamscape and at that, it provides only metaphoric insight into things i am to figure out or let go and keep safe for later.

that, and every time i draw a bunch of circles, i get something i want but at a cost, and also have no lead for the compass.

[Gaia2]

calibas is very correct.

i notice at the outset that the keylontic one is symmetrical and the metatronic one leaves out the hidden, but marks it nonetheless. it's anyone's guess as to why this is, but perhaps the originators of the metatronic one wanted there to be something left to explore but this is only my conjecture.

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it would seem like the omission might be so done to hide, but i also know sometimes the tendency is to over-do things like that, when first describing something. for an excellent example, don't read the first two 'books' i wrote. alternately, the same overdoing provides a fullness to the view that, if the appropriate context is missing or lost would render the true meaning lost as well. see the second sentence of the second section of the first half of this post.

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i've seen a higher-d version of that tree and what i saw reflected both the hex-symmetrical form of a virus, as well as an octo-symmetrical tendril or trunk formed by the fact that what i saw existed in mind and not on paper, and we're right back to what calibas has just said.

Does anybody know how to get out of this merkaba and this trap that drunvalo has set? How do you destroy this merkaba thing arround you? Its not healthy, its evil. I thought drunvalo was going to help me but instead he made my life hell.

Any ideas how to get out of this?

[Ronaloka]

You correct the distortion not by destroying the mutation effects of the Flower of artificial Life; aka Daisy of Death.

Never focus or directly fight the negative for it will only increase its power. You focus on what you want to see, not what you don't want to see. In KS there is a whole section in Kathara II and III manual that describes the Krystic Lotus structure and its proper function. Within this course it teaches you how to perform the 6 point "Lotus Bud Breath". I believe performing this breath/visualization technique over a period of time will begin to reverse the affects of using any techniques surrounding the the flower of life drawing and its teachings.

You may want to find a registered Kathara healer that can assist you in this endeavour.

You have all that you need.

[existencebeyondexperience]

oh, definitely. i've had good and bad experiences with both: what i come up with either seems right but turns wrong, or is wrong but not obviously so; what i'm told has the same since somebody somewhere had to have done the same to originate it, even if it was "given" to them by something higher.

my experiences with metatron as a concept show that as enoch was a human, metatron is a manmade concept which was granted favor by God; metatron is said to be ascended, or so the fortune teller lady i met in the city of gold and lead over a year ago told me. i feel more of a transcendental energy from that concept, as the name "beyond (garbled)" implies. this also fits with the idea of balance, especially if you delve into the gnostic writings on ialdabaoth as the antigod and make the connection to metatron in allegory.

whatever the truth is, is. whatever we think we know may not be the truth, but there's nothing yet saying it can't be and if/when that point arrives, we will have become anyway so it will be moot.

also definitely the golden ratio (as well as the existence of any maths or geometry in natural systems) is a pretty obvious clue.

here's how i noticed it:



this is a sack spiral, it's a manmade spiral with equidistant points representing integers, and in graphing these the numeric significance of each is sometimes represented by the size of the dot for each point.



the larger you draw the spiral, the more patterns begin to emerge, including a set of un-equatable curves formed by the locations of prime numbers along the manmade curve, meaning no mathematical laws are broken in representing a prime pattern but obviously when arranged by an observer, they organize along their own line.

http://www.amcomputersystems.com/primes/animations.html

the last link is to a page using animated GIF to demonstrate both ulam and sack spirals in this way.

[Kitsune]

oh, definitely. i've had good and bad experiences with both: what i come up with either seems right but turns wrong, or is wrong but not obviously so; what i'm told has the same since somebody somewhere had to have done the same to originate it, even if it was "given" to them by something higher.

my experiences with metatron as a concept show that as enoch was a human, metatron is a manmade concept which was granted favor by God; metatron is said to be ascended, or so the fortune teller lady i met in the city of gold and lead over a year ago told me. i feel more of a transcendental energy from that concept, as the name "beyond (garbled)" implies. this also fits with the idea of balance, especially if you delve into the gnostic writings on ialdabaoth as the antigod and make the connection to metatron in allegory.

whatever the truth is, is. whatever we think we know may not be the truth, but there's nothing yet saying it can't be and if/when that point arrives, we will have become anyway so it will be moot.

also definitely the golden ratio (as well as the existence of any maths or geometry in natural systems) is a pretty obvious clue.

I never tried any of the meditations, I followed my gut here. I have heard various experiences from people who both tried the kathara meditation and the flower of life one. My best guess is that they are influenced by the teachings already so subconsciously they have programmed themselves on what to expect afterwards.

The fortune lady was right, if you check my post about Drunvalo and how he's one with Metatron in this lifetime (hence the teachings). Metatron and his twin brother (some say that he's his twin flame) Sandalphon, how their energies are almost identical, I don't know it's fishy. Apart from that, it's not only my observations, it's the channelings and the past life regressions about them.

The part I mentioned about the golden ratio, I know it's only a piece of the many pieces missing here. I'm sure people later will come back with more observations if they are open-minded.

By the way, thank you for the site. Unfortunately I don't have any program to apply the spiral on chakras or even on the flower of life, at least I'm pleased that people understand my point.

[AmentiHall]

Hi , I have a lot to say about this.

I have studied the knowledge you posted. And I am proud that you are researching it. Not many venture that far.

I will come back to comment mor about it. BTW there is no "Wrong teachings" just variations on paths.

I will try and illuminate the differences between the "lattice of the flower of life" and the "keyonltic" interpretation.

[Kitsune]

Hi , I have a lot to say about this.

I have studied the knowledge you posted. And I am proud that you are researching it. Not many venture that far.

I will come back to comment mor about it. BTW there is no "Wrong teachings" just variations on paths.

I will try and illuminate the differences between the "lattice of the flower of life" and the "keyonltic" interpretation.

I have studied both of them too, that's why I made this thread. I guess the title was wrong but right at the same time cos as I mentioned before there are basic keys missing on both sides. I can't wait for your replies and drakke's too, he promised he will come back with more detailed post.

[AmentiHall]

I took this from the "Are we holograms thread" (at the end of this post). It is very similar to yours. I will come back tomorrow and post more. But for now here is a bit of rambling. First i have to say that ALL paths lead back home! KS has a bit of drama and duality in how people perceive it. BUT if you learn the true meanings of the teachings, and interpret it from a place of non-duality. It makes perfect sense. I have to say a few things, what the people at KS say is "distorted" or "inverted" physics, is in actuality what most of us (and the mainstream science, occultism etc) considers "our natural working universe. But it is well known among circles, that humanity is supposed to be "inverted" and even the way in which reality manifests is a "downward" and "veiled" phenomenon. In other-words, down here most of us feel "disconnected" from the infinite. And thus our bodies even reflect it. It must be understood that KS is transmitted material, from the view of "angelic" and otherwise beings, who simply can't help but look at this like a distortion. It is in their nature, just as it is in the nature of a white blood cell to try and eradicate certain imbalances/diseases. Therefore, as human beings we can't expect them to fully relate. And even in the teachings, we realize that ALL things, even the people, beings, and universes which are "cut off" From the immediate experience of Source, ARE Source. Hence this is all a desire and manifestation of the One/Source anyways, so viewing thins as "wrong" or "evil" is the wrong start. Now...there was a sort of beef between drunvalo and Ash. My pros and cons exist for both, although I resonate far more with the KS teachings because my mind is intricate in a similar fashion I guess. Yet it can also be convoluted and unecessary for most. What I do like about drunvalo is his focus on the heart. That's very important! But I don't know if his merkaba work is for me. For one you can only do it if he approves. I understand that. But also, I have heard from many that "group merkabas" are dangerous. Someone once told me, that in a meeting with various new age gurus (whom I don't trust half, for reasons I won't get into here), he admitted that he set the merkaba technologies in a way, so that in the group meetings he was in a way, harnessing the energy from those below him. Could be total BS. Dunno don't care. I am also a little wary in his talk of "angels" and how good they are. Another thing is he lied about some things, for example he lied about Ash's/Anna's interpretation of certain things. Ash/Anna for example never admonished Arch Angel Michael, or any of the ancient religions, but she DID warn that many of the "new age" channeling which use these names are in actuality, done by beings who wish to deceive (and even human beings). It was a very childish, and outward display of immaturity from a new age guru. He also says everyone is going to magically ascend even though little work was done by the collective....and another lie, is his talk about how "the grey's and all negative beings have left earth!" Um...I know from personal experience this is completely wrong. Back to KS...I do not appreciate how they call the flower of life lattice, among other things as "death sciences." But you must realize where this mentality comes from, again these beings view EVERYTHING of how our current "reality"comes into manifestation, as a distortion. Because there WERE higher consciousness which had a hand in this! The Annu-Elohim, or the "Logos" which some call the grand architect for example. If you understand the story, you'll understand what it means in that this massive consciousness (Which by all means, is "God" according to most interpretations) encapsulated our consciousness through manipulating the divine physics. Metatron was a part of this, although completely unintentionally. It is the same story of the Cathari and how "Satan" is in actuality the being who trapped us, and the divine spark (which is quite simply, god/source) into the lower realms of physicality, the same story of how Anu did similar things with our genetics (found in wingmakers material), and also of that of the Archons, and DemiUrgus found in gnosticism. What these teachings say, is there is a different, ORIGINAL divine blueprint, not just for our current bodies, but actually from a spiritual standpoint that humanity was destined to embody. Which in our grand bio-spiritual evolution, would end in us being completely At-One with the Source, not just internally but externally. The reality we are living in, is one which "veils" the source, or the ineffable/unknowable. And tells us, that we will NEVER get there. That the whole point is to reincarnate and die until eventually you "Ascend out." Which one is wrong, which one is right? Neither is wrong or right, it is a matter of opinion. It depends on whether you want humanity to achieve the harmony/unity with Source in even physical terms, or if one wants to continue the perpetuation of externalization of "God" within to our outside reality, and a "Strict" form of ascension through the systems of kaballah (and its tree of life) and others forms. Yet neither will teach anyone to ascend, they are just knowledge bases, and differing opinions of the same thing. According to Ash, the "angels" of drunvalo or a specific branch of "melchezidek" (what she calls, Templar-Annu) of the Annunaki. Ash too, uses the label "melchezidek" which was an old title for "kings" within the Jewish mystical systems, it was a title of a "high priest." Which were essentially, carriers or stewards of divine knowledge. What I suggest, is putting it all together. For example, trying drunvalo's techniques but with Ash's merkaba ratios. here is another tangent. Ash says the merkaba dynamics of drunvalo's teachings are the mark of the "Niburian cross" and the phase lock. It sounds bad right? No! What this means is that this merkaba (of drunvalo) is a dynamic which "Takes" energy from the immediate surroundings (this includes, the overall galactic template) to sustain merkaba, which is the way things work in THIS reality (as of now) anyways, whereareas ash says the proper "merkaba dynamics" is of BREAKING the phase lock, so that we may ascend out of this vibrational lattice over time. Another person described it as this, certain "angelic" beings want to keep our consciousness in the form of a star tetahedron, or merkaba/star of david (which is our perfected form now). But what the beings in KS want, is for us to eventually evolve into the Dodecahedron, or the 12 sided...which is, also a representation of the 12-24 strand template. Now, I had some KS validated by a completely unrelated group (whom one might say, belong to wingmakers and occultism), who in their manifestive techniques, realized that when "evoking" the frequency pattern YHVH, they were able to draw energy from the immediate template (earth, solar, galactic) but it "took" a bit of life away. Ash says the same thing about the anti grav tech that exists within underground facilities. The only difference between the supposed frequencies and templates of KS, and the ones we currently think are "natural and divine" is that these all draw energy from the "finite" universe we live in. In otherwords, our planet will one day die, our sun, everything withers etc. It is all "Recycling energy" from itself until there is no more. What is bein said by KS, is that within our DNA, our ability to draw energy directly from SOURCE is totally possible! And it has to do with the frequencies we tune into, and how we evolve in the future (how our DNA mutates, or rather, re-opens the 12 strands). Within Kathara, among other materials, it is described...IN DETAIL how we lost this, how our DNA mutated, what energy centers became disfigured, and how it all happened. In otherwords, how we got trapped in these bodies! They speak a great deal of how the higher energy became "Trapped" within a finite loop until our death, the "sextant" clock and aging, among other things. What they are trying to say is it is also in our DNA, to evolve to the point where our cells no longer are "copies of copies" until they degrade in quality, aging, and dying, but rather they "Regenerate" in a perpetual manner. This wouldn't be instant, it would take evolution. So what the teachings are about, is ALIGNING the general blueprint of humanity, back towards this path (instead of where we were going, which is the NWO, exploited, still-asleep to our higher potential) The difference is essentially, being under the same "influence" of Anu/Annu, the physical 10 dimensional universe, reflected in our current DNA, drawing energy ONLY from below Anu/Annu, which is, our immediate universe, and not having direct access to "Source" until we ascend out a sort of strict path. (this is about certain illuminism systems and not so much about drunvalo). What drunvalo is about seems to be about the heart, WHICH I LIKE, about using merkaba..which I like (but I dunno if I trust his method), and the "new age" form of ascension..which is, everyone magically ascends in an instant with little to no work or learning from the majority of people. I think this might happen for the few that are ready..but i dunno. And drunvalo also says that "everything will be ripped apart" and then we will be in a "new reality." What ash says is that there are MULTIPLE ways to ascend...and that not all of them lead to our ideal location! In other words, ascension occurs through this process of merging with certain realities, above our own (or one can go straight back home, to Source if you will). Some beings have the agenda, from HIGH up, to help us "Ascend" into their domain/universe, for the purpose of utilizing our energy (and that of our universal time matrix, or multi-verse) to sustain their own! So whose to trust? I dunno really, don't even care. I just take the BEST of what both have, and integrate it all together. That's my motto! I trust in Source and the divine will to show all the path back home! Anyways here is my post

Everything moves in Circular, and is Spiral in nature. Who are the engineers of our hologram? Well WE are the engineers, originally. WE are the ones who Chose ALL this. The question is, has our hologram being hijacked? Are there others at play here who might have had a say? As I mentioned above, our GENETICS is key into how we PERCEIVE our hologram. Can this be changed? Some say yes.... We are currently tuned into what we call the Fibonacci spiral, which is a sacred ratio that permeates our universe (or at least, its surface). Some say this is a distortion from our original imprint. Look at how its off center, and the numbers are This is a part of the "hologram" or multi-dimensional universe, that "Traps" us into the lower vibration of physicality. When we begin reaching our perfected state the spiral will look more like this (notice, it comes more from a center point) COPYRIGHT IMAGE REMOVED DMCA TAKEN NOTICE This is known as the Kryst/Christ Spiral, notice the symmetry and the crystaline structure. These are the number sequences for the Krystal Spiral COPYRIGHT IMAGE REMOVED DMCA TAKEN NOTICE The Krystal Spiral gets its next number by adding ALL the previous numbers. The Kryst Spiral also expands by √2 = 1.414.. for every 45° or by 2 for every 90° of rotation. The Fibonacci only gets its next number by adding the last two. The difference between the two spirals is that one is "fallen" and one is in tune with the Source. Now let me elaborate on that, "FALLEN" does NOT mean negative. Think about what "falling means" from a spiritual perspective. FALLING into the lower planes. The fibonacci spiral, is the "ride" we all take when our souls come down to this lower physicality. it GOVERNS all of the lower physicality, and so what the Occult methods of the Kaballah teach, is essentially to "ride" the fibonacci spiral back up towards the Origin. Which would also mean, through the 11 spheres of the sephiroth back into Daath (or the unknowable.). What the Christ spiral teaches us, is that we can CHOOSE to TUNE into a different spiral altogether, and become part of a universe that is DIRECTLY in tune with the center/expansion of the Source. As I mentioned before, our DNA has everythin to do with the reality that we tune into. We can easily become in tune with the Christ spiral when we begin to evolve back towards our perfected being, which is essentially the Dodacahedron in terms of geometry In the 12 sphered tree of life, it is perfectly proportionate, with only the 13th and beyond hidden (the 13th is all of them as One) There is no "Set path" in which one has to "ascend" because this same pattern permeates the ORIGINAL blueprint of the human body. COPYRIGHT IMAGE REMOVED DMCA TAKEN NOTICE
This (below) is how the Kaballah Tree of life looks like with our Chakras overlapped with it. Please notice, that this has to do with a GENETIC mutation and the reason why we are mis-aligned with our higher selves, focused on physicality, and cannot perceive beyond out physical forms. This is how our body currently is configured, its aura and chakras (energy centers) combined COPYRIGHT IMAGE REMOVED DMCA TAKEN NOTICE
Now, this (below) is how the human body overlaps the 12 sphered (krystal spiral) tree of life, when we begin to harmonize and evolve out of this current "vibrational prison" we currently dwell in. COPYRIGHT IMAGE REMOVED DMCA TAKEN NOTICE
If you want proof, do this MEDITATE....start taking deep breaths. IMAGINE the 12th chakra (which is above the head), lets say about half a foot to a foot (depending on what you are comfortable with). Start INHALING energy from this chakra. The Shamans call this the 8th chakra, and say it is PURE/Source spirit. This is perfectly in tune with what we know in this blueprint, as the 12sphered is the physical formation of pre-matter, pre-light, pre-everything stage, it is our DIRECT connection to Source. When you are visualizing this chakra, and pulling energy down into your crown and body through this chakra. You WILL feel it. You will even tlak different because of how much love and peace permeates through your body. Want to know an easy clearing method? BREATHE the pure/source energy from this chakra DOWN into your crown and through central current, THEN push all your bad shit out through the root chakra and down into the EARTH. Which is number one in above chart. IMAGINE this chakra, at the center of the earth. It is by far the best method I've learned, and it is present both in these new teachings, and in ancient shamanism (only they don't tell you, that the core of earth is actually one of your chakras!)

[Kitsune]

What I do like about drunvalo is his focus on the heart. That's very important! But I don't know if his merkaba work is for me. For one you can only do it if he approves. I understand that. But also, I have heard from many that "group merkabas" are dangerous. Someone once told me, that in a meeting with various new age gurus (whom I don't trust half, for reasons I won't get into here), he admitted that he set the merkaba technologies in a way, so that in the group meetings he was in a way, harnessing the energy from those below him. Could be total BS. Dunno don't care. I am also a little wary in his talk of "angels" and how good they are.

Another thing is he lied about some things, for example he lied about Ash's/Anna's interpretation of certain things. Ash/Anna for example never admonished Arch Angel Michael, or any of the ancient religions, but she DID warn that many of the "new age" channeling which use these names are in actuality, done by beings who wish to deceive (and even human beings). It was a very childish, and outward display of immaturity from a new age guru. He also says everyone is going to magically ascend even though little work was done by the collective....and another lie, is his talk about how "the grey's and all negative beings have left earth!" Um...I know from personal experience this is completely wrong.

Ok first of all, I'm sure not everyone has read drunvalo's open letter. So I will post here the part talking about the merkaba meditation and ashayana's teachings.

"The Mer-Ka-Ba meditation is like the Torah (and is secretly taught in the Torah). The instructions for the Torah, that every Jew knows, is that not one word in this book could be changed, for if one word was changed it would make the Torah completely wrong and useless. Now we know, from the "Bible Code" that the Torah is a computer code, and like a computer code, if one letter in the HTML programming is changed the entire web document is changed.

The Mer-Ka-Ba meditation as it was given to me by the angels is billions of years old and is the result of countless millions of civilizations using these instructions to transform and transmute their civilizations into higher consciousness. These instructions have proven themselves over long periods of time and under a myriad of circumstances. They do not need to be changed nor can they be changed, for if they are, they will almost certainly led the meditator into a state of consciousness that was not intended by the consciousness that gave these instructions to this world, and this can be extremely dangerous. The changing of the Mer-Ka-Ba meditation is equal to a mutation of the DNA. What the result will be, only God knows.

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To show you how people can influence other people who do not know the truth, look at Anna Hayes. She wrote a book called Voyagers under an assumed name of Ashayana Deane. In this book she claims that she is receiving this information from "The Guardian Alliance", which, according to Anna is "an immense group of beings residing within a myriad of dimensional locations within the Space/Time Matrix". Anna says that they are experts of "Merkaba Mechanics", and she says that this source is saying that the Mer-Ka-Ba field that I am teaching is wrong and has a reversed field. (A reversed field is one of the most serious misunderstanding that can even result in death of the body and a confused spiritual path for sometime afterwards) Let's look at an actual quote from her book:

"The "fixed" tailbone Merkaba Field is the mark of the Nibiruian Merkaba-Reversal that keeps the physical body literally locked into its present time vector and unable to achiever Star Gate passage - another of several other "little secrets that Thoth and his friends conveniently forgot to mention to their human "students"."

"Most of the humans who have fallen into using or teaching the Nibiruian Reverse-Merkaba have been covertly "set up" by the Thoth-Enki-Zephelium or Alpha-Omega Templar Melchizedek Anunnaki races to propagate this Base-11Reverse Merkaba perversion. Most, but not all, human teacher of Merkaba do not realize that they have been deceived in this way, and are not intentionally bringing harm to their students; the teachers themselves are being victimized and deceived by Fallen Angelic contacts."

Further Anna Hayes (Ashayana Deane) says, "Galactic Federation and Ashtar Command Anunnaki collectives, you will not realize that you inadvertently created External Reverse-Merkaba field is being actively used to amplify the 34-Top-Magnetic Counter-clockwise, 21-Bottom-Electrical-Clockwise and BASE-11-acceleration Nibiruian reverse-Merkaba spin ratio is in Earth's grids."

This last statement by Anna Hayes (Ashayana Deane) proves that the source of her information is misinformed (at the least).

In the Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life, Volume II, page 356, under the heading. "Spinning the tetrahedrons, top and bottom only." I say, "This is one of the biggest mistakes people make."

The Melchizedek tradition does not teach, nor has it ever, that we spin the top tetrahedron one-way and the bottom one the other way. Anyone who has studied this work carefully knows this is not true. This is wrong, and I clearly say so. Further the set of tetrahedrons that spin counter-clockwise 34 is electrical (not magnetic) and the set of tetrahedrons that spin clockwise 21 is magnetic (not electrical).

Anna Hayes (Ashayana Deane) is not only trying to reverse the Mer-Ka-Ba field, which is the most dangerous thing a meditator can do, but she is trying to reverse the archetypes in the entire universe, which goes against every religion that has ever existed since these things were understood. The "Fallen Angelic contacts" that she references in five paragraphs above is not Archangel Lucifer and his band, which most people would assume, but in her statements it is Archangel Michael. A quote from her book that references Archangel Michael, "More aptly described and historically known as "Arch-Demon Michael". She sees Archangel Michael as evil and the source of darkness. She even sees Jesus as evil. Yet, people are blindly following her. What she does offer humanity is the gift of discernment.

I have remained silent for a long time watching and listening to this chaos and confusion that many "teachers" are transmitting to the world. Now you have to make the choice. It is your decision. Go into your heart and listen. Your heart knows the truth. Keep it simple."

http://www.floweroflife.org/drulett1202eng.htm

For those who don't have KS account, I will copy and past of what ashayana said and people can judge by themselves.

"The Metatron collective fell, loosing its Krist Code encryption because there is a law of physics that says that if you are an Ascended Master being and send in more than a natural proportion of your energy into the time matrix, say for a salvage mission, if the salvage team you sent in goes down, it takes the whole collective down.

Metatron is part of an entity called Giovanni, which is part of a a collective that created the Christos Founder Races that seeded this time matrix 950 billion years ago.

It was the groups of Elohim that were commissioned to Stargate 11, that became convoluted (See: Code-convolution) and which began their downfall, both genetically, template-wise, and of consciousness.

The Metatron entity, the Giovanni-Metatron entity, decided to blame the other Ascended Master collectives for its fall.

The collective made a decision that it would use its knowledge of Primal Creation Physics, and that it would take over this time matrix. (That was originally what its fallen parts had wanted, and what the rest had tried to stop).

The Metatronic bodies that were created through their programming are very interesting structures. They take part of what would be a normal living biological structure, and they take out certain parts of the template that are missing and they plug in certain parts of the template together.

There's not 30% left of the original template where you can do bio-regenesis to plug it back in to its natural Divine Blueprint. It creates an atrocity and it creates something that is not compatible with the mathematics or the scalar frequencies of the Christos Divine Blueprint for this Time Matrix or any other one.

So, in making a choice to be immortal, they made a choice to be finite, because their immortality is dependent on sucking energy from living things, living matrices.

They take no responsibility for the fact that they’re the ones that created this blasphemy of science. They sealed their own destiny when they created the Metatronic distortion. And at this point, they are simply trying to feed on whatever is available.

They are self-appointed creator gods from the fallen matrix that have painstakingly, over a very long period of the illusion of linear time, created a technology known as The BeaST. And in The Bible, it’s referred to as the BeaST…with seven heads and ten horns, etc., etc.

Through their artificial-light manipulations and Death Star Merkaba Mechanics, which are at the core of the ancient Atlantean “Bloom of Doom” and “Death Science” teachings, work together with the distorted matter-template mechanics of the “Tree of Artificial Life,” “golden mean rectangle,” the “Fibonacci spiral & sequence” and other related “Death Science” components to form an inorganic technology that attempts to manufacture an “artificial facsimile of Eternal Life Ascension.”

Prior to the appearance of the “Bloom of Doom” Death Science technologies on Earth, these technologies were known in our local Universe as the “Teachings of Metatronic Death Science,” named after a local entity collective, called “Metatron,” who was instrumental in bringing the Death Sciences more directly into our local Galaxy.

Some of the distorted mathematics and physics inherent to the “Bloom of Doom” Death Science technologies included a mathematical growth formula for artificial finite life that in later days became known as the “golden mean rectangle” and “Fibonacci spiral & sequence,” both of which were distortions of the “Krystal Spiral & Sequence” organic eternal-life growth ratios illustrated in the GA-MCEO CDT-Plate teachings.


Distortions of the CDT-Plate Kathara Grid symbol became known in the “Death Sciences” of the Atlantean period as the “Tree of Artificial Life,” because temporary, inorganic, finite-life artificial structures of matter, light and biology could be created through the “twisted mathematical secrets” implied by the symbolic structure of the Tree of Artificial Life distortion. The genuine Kathara Grid represents the organic core mathematical radiation-structures, or “lattices,” upon which eternal-life “living” morphogenetic field–matter templates are built.

Instead of the organic 12 “Signets” or “power points” of the organic Kathara Grid which represent the mathematical formulae of organized-radiation-structure through which organic, eternal living matter, light and biology are formed, the Metatronic Death Science distortions of the “Tree of Artificial Life” forms inorganic, finite-life artificial structures of matter, light and biology depicted by 11 “Signets,” instead of the organic 12 of the “living” Kathara Grid.

Further distortions of the “Tree of Artificial Life” symbol emerged later in history as “Tree of Life” symbols depicting 7, 8, 9 or 10 Signet points, with different “cross-bar lattice” distortions.

These later Kathara Grid distortions represented renditions of the Atlantean “Tree of Artificial Life” creation formula as adapted by various groups of Illuminati who were in competition with the Illuminati “Bloom of Doom” creators.

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Krystal Spiral vs Fibonacci Spiral

The differences between the Krystal Spiral and Sequence and the golden mean–Fibonacci spiral and sequence can be simply understood in terms of their respective relationships to their “creation points.”

The Krystal Spiral/ Sequence emerges from its center-point of creation — to which it perpetually retains a living, “breathing” (expanding and contracting) connection through preservation of what “came before” — and it expands through multiplication of that which came before.

The golden mean–Fibonacci spiral/ sequence emerges from a “point of adhesion” to a living/ breathing form, to which it progressively loses contact, as it expands perpetually through consumption and annihilation of that which came before.


Archangel Michael

Competing FALSE 12-STRAND ACTIVATION PROGRAMS are presently being run via unsuspecting New Age & UFO Movement “Channels & Contactees”, by Jehovian “Bipedal Dolphin People” Anunnaki (Sirius A, Arcturian, & “Galactic Federation”) and Pleiadian-Nibiruian (Anu-Seraphim Aquatic-ape-hominid) Anunnaki-Drakonian-Reptile hybrid races.

Fallen Angelic and Illuminati Human Leviathan races use the seduction of false claims of “Easy DNA Template Activation” and false promises of Ascension without providing the details of the MECHANICS by which these dynamics naturally take place. If we know the mechanics we can detect when they are being intentionally misused to orchestrate Anti-Christiac Dominion agendas.

The tactics of false “Quick-Fix Claims” and false promises are coupled with false “sweetness and patronization”, in which our egos are fed as we are told “what we want to hear” and “how great and Beloved we are”, while being covertly “railroaded right under our own noses”.

If we do not “fall for” the age-old “Quick-Fix” and “Ego-Pat” Seductions, we can avert Fallen Angelic and Illuminati manipulation tactics and learn HOW THINGS REALLY WORK, so we become empowered to set ourselves, and assist others to set themselves, FREE.

[Kitsune]

What I do like about drunvalo is his focus on the heart. That's very important! But I don't know if his merkaba work is for me. For one you can only do it if he approves. I understand that. But also, I have heard from many that "group merkabas" are dangerous. Someone once told me, that in a meeting with various new age gurus (whom I don't trust half, for reasons I won't get into here), he admitted that he set the merkaba technologies in a way, so that in the group meetings he was in a way, harnessing the energy from those below him. Could be total BS. Dunno don't care. I am also a little wary in his talk of "angels" and how good they are.

There is something important here too. If you read drunvalo's energies, they are overwhelmed with love hence his focus on the heart chakra. On the other hand ashayana is talking about tough love. That's why she's talking about those who are channeling archangel michael. On the other hand now, her energies are "beautifully cold". She's teaching science not love. This is going back to their rival on the godworlds but I won't say more on that cos I will respect their privacy. The only thing that I will mention is that through her teachings is trying to prove him wrong.

Now as it concerns the merkaba meditation, I don't know never been there cos as I mentioned I followed my gut. Something was "off" for me. The only thing I tried a long time ago was to have a merkaba field in the astral. It was enticing all the negative beings and energies for some weird reason. I even tried the flower of life field and so far it's been proved to be the best. I will just agree with you that someone should try a combination of both. Someone would say that the combination could be "fatal" since the teachings are completely opposite, like bringing together matter and antimatter. Personally, I would just advice people to follow their intuition and see what's best for them.

Which one is wrong, which one is right? Neither is wrong or right, it is a matter of opinion. It depends on whether you want humanity to achieve the harmony/unity with Source in even physical terms, or if one wants to continue the perpetuation of externalization of "God" within to our outside reality, and a "Strict" form of ascension through the systems of kaballah (and its tree of life) and others forms. Yet neither will teach anyone to ascend, they are just knowledge bases, and differing opinions of the same thing.

Ashayana has showed the truth through KS, you just have to observe it. Let me copy and paste and then I will try to explain.

CDT Plates

"A series of 12 Pre-atlantian Holographic Disk Records form 246,000 BC. They are small pale silver physical disk that contains massive tomes of practical physical and spiritual evolutionary advancement (Sacred Spiritual Science) teachings that are translated by 3 Speakers.

The three CDT-plates Speakers are always contemporaries and work closely and cooperatively together, collectively presenting on Earth the translations to which they are commissioned over a 12 year period of time.

The CDT-plates are holographic recordings, storage and transmition devices that holds massive amounts of data in encrypted, electromagnetic scalar-standing-wave form. They were manufactured from a form of striated-selenite-quartz crystal organic to the Density-2 planet Sirius B, surrounding a radioactive isotopic core, encased in a “hybrid-metal” silver-alloy compound organic to Earth.

They contain the full evolutionary history of life evolution in our Time Matrix since the last life-wave was seeded 950 billion years ago up to the present and also “future records” of the many various paths of evolutionary development of human and inter-dimensional, inter-galactic, inter-time races, which emerge from free-will choices rendered in our present space-time continuum.

They are presented to the races of our 15 dimensional Time Matrix by the Density-5 (Dimensions 13-15) Elohei-elohim-emerald Order, Seraphei-Seraphin-gold Order and Braha-rama-amethyst Order Melchizedek Cloister Breneau. (The 3 primary Founders Races in our Time Matrix)

Translation of data from the CDT-plates is accomplished through initiation of specific frequency transmitions, through which the discs activate to release their stored data in the chosen form of holographic, audio, visual or digital translation.

Among the numerous subjects included in the CDT-plates are:

1) The Melchizedek Cloister Law of One Spiritual studies.

2) Keylontic Morphogenetic (matter template) Science

3) 15 Dimensional Unified Field Physics

4) Primary Creation Mechanics.

5) Advanced Merkaba-Kundalini-DNA Bio-regenesis Ascension Mechanics.

6) Kathara Core Template Healing. (Kathara Healing)

7) Planetary Templar Star Gate Mechanics.

8) Pre-ancient History, Founders Races and Angelic Race evolution.

9) Higher Sensory Perceptions and OOB travel. (Out of Body)

10) Books of Maps and Key – The technical manual for Earth’s Hall of Amenti Star Gates and Planetary Templar Complex system.

They also serve a dual purpose in relation to obtaining manual access to the 12 Primary Start Gates of The Universal Templar Complex. The CDT-plates are part of a larger apparatus the includes 12 corresponding, larger silver discs called the Signet Shields.

One CDT-plate translator and speaker was the man historically known as John the Baptist (31 BC-34 BC).

Other CDT-plate Speaker and leader of the Essene “Chrystian Movement” was Jeshua Melchizedek. (Known as “Jesus” in the Bible)

Other translations of ancient times were dispensed through Speakers born into Hindu, Chinese, Tibetan, African, Egyptian, Mayan, Incan and Celtic-druidic Grail Lines.

The CDT-plate disk have been in protective custody within the Azurite-EOMC Eieyani Priest of Ur family lines since a cataclysmic event that took place on Earth in 208,216 BC. – Before that date they were in the protective custody of the Urtite human lineage.

The Maharata is the ancient Sacred Text translation of the Founders Races CDT-plates from 246,000 BC, which originally contained 590 volumes, and over 500,000 pages, of non-dogmatic, egalitarian, Sacred Spiritual Science Teachings covering every aspect of mastering personal and cosmic reality.

Before intentional editing and distortion at the hand of Fallen Angelics and corrupt human power elite, the teachings of every traditional religious belief system on Earth, from Christianity to Buddhism and Indigenous Tribal Oral Tradition, originally emerged from re-translations of the Maharata Texts and CDT-plates."


Ashayana and drunvalo are two of the 12 keepers of these "diaries". This means that they hold part of the truth, their teachings are not complete but only pieces of the universal knowledge. Instead of trying to prove each other wrong, they should see how their truths can merge. Apart from that, they should see how other "truths" fit here.

Though what they both ignore is the existence of Sandalphon (you can check my previous post about it). Ashayana is not against metatron's consciousness but sandalphon's one. It's something that I regressed some days before and the channelings I had, confirmed this. Now in common sense, why two holders of the star gates would fight like cats and dogs? Someone would say it's childish or ego-driven.

The truth is that behind this is metatron's twin brother sandalphon. This perplexes things. He's using his frequencies in both of their fields to distort their teachings. If you check the thread on GLP, there is a girl who mentions that astrally with her friend, she saw a dark being above ashayana while she was sleeping. There were people who mocked at her. Though it's true. He's using the best method. Divide and rule.

Now Amenti as it concerns your meditation method. Yours seems simple and efficient, I like it. I use a method (at least one the many I have tried) which is based on the exchange of energies and information at the same time.



I tried to draw it a bit - sorry if it's bad - so here it goes. There are two basic lines coming through the chakras which exchange energies with earth and universe at the same time moving on different directions. The field around the body is filled with the fibonacci and krystal spirals coming from the chakras jumping out and create infinite spirals. So this keeps you stable and at the same time you receive universal information without feeling dizzy. Using the heart as a center of this vortex combining the kathara grid and the flower of life.

[viamedia]

well, all i can say is i play music but feel i'm a better writer - but apparently mine is not to write, but to make music (much to my chagrin).

I feel for you, but I just have to say that I love the way you put this.

Just wanted to subscribe, and put out a thanks to all for this thread instead of spamming a button. You guys rock!

As someone who is an outsider to most of this information it's an interesting idea to why the kathara system has an almost 'uncanny valley' creepiness too it, while one of kitsunes images feels more 'comfy'. Lots to think on.