cant take it anymore...

**Noir** · 08-02-2011

hi everyone!
First of all i apologize because these should go maybe in the dreams forum, but i feel the need to post it hear.

You know,i dream about aliens and abductions almost every night... since i started dreaming.

but i never told much to anyone because as a kid i was waking up terrified and screaming that the aliens were coming for me, and my parents would punish me for that "because they dont exist, and was all product of my imagination"...

then i must say that my imagination is very wise, cause many things that these beings told me in dreams actually happended, and sometimes they give me interesting information that makes a lot of sense.

their big cat-like eyes are practically the only thing i really can recall about their appeareance, sometimes green eyes, sometimes black...

but in the last year i had 2 very strange dreams in wich these beings told me i was going to have 2 little health problems... And indeed, the first one was found about 3 months after the first dream, and the second problem i had it one month after the 2nd dream... So now i m starting to wonder...

Maybe i m not so crazy... maybe it is something more than imagination, maybe is a bit of reality in these, and not only my subconscious making up things.

In the last year things became for me very scary and i would really like to talk with somebody about these stuff, but i am afraid to go to a psychologist. I have the feeling i m going nuts.

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I m kind of "seeing" things ( images and sounds in my head, specially when i meditate and my mind is quiet) , every night somenthing wakes me up at exactly 4:28, my brain is just tired, and my dreams with these beings are so vivid, that sometimes i wake up more tired than i was when i went to sleep.
I have the urge of becoming vegetarian and i dont even know why... Funny enough my body actually feels good when i eat proteins from meat and i never had before the need of meat that i have now, so i m eating a lot, and still something is missing... so i m taking vitamins also...
I m a bit paranoid, and feeel followed and watched.
I discover in my head something like "false memories" of stuff that never really happened nor i ve dreamed of, and only sometimes i can remember part of the real facts. I dont know what to think about it...
SOmetimes i have like flashbacks from these dreams with aliens, and these flashbacks are so vivid that i could think it actually happened and i was really there.
sometimes i just "receive information" or knowledge about stuff in my head in a matter of a second, like if somebody was putting info in my head, or images like circles and sounds and weird feelings
And nevertheless, although i allways was interested and curious about aliens since a kid, specially because i allways had these nightmares with them, now in the last motnhs these curiosity that i ve been forgetting for years, has become now an obsession that has me the whole day thinking about it...

I dont think that aliens are abducting me, because if that was the case i believe i would had bruises, marks everywere... or my boyfriend or roomates will notice something if i m leaving in the middle of the night. -or that i would like to believe- but sometimes i think is like a mental conection, or a dreams conection with aliens...

But you people know a lot about these stuff, so i ll be really glad if u gve me an opinion, PM me, or if u r interested in knowing more.
AND THE QUESTIONS I REALLY WANT TO ASK ARE:
IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A MENTAL CONNECTION OR TROUGH DREAMS WITH ET BEINGS OR THEY ONLY ABDUCT PEOPLE??

DOES ANYONE OF U HAVE HEARD ABOUT IT? OR EXPERIENCED?

**UuberAwsum** · 08-09-2011

well I don't know much but I did have a dream a few months ago in which people were trying to evacuate because I had forseen something would happen then the aliens came in and started rounding us up, make us wander through the rubble of what used to be our homes. I don't remember at what point but I woke up not wanting to think about it anymore but it was like something said, "nope" and pulled me back in to see the finish. I was the last one in the group and I found sort of a sanctuary and this guy fro mmy school guided me in with him, I was wondering why I wasn't killed and I looked back to see that the alien had tried but couldn't, like he tried stabbing me or something but nothing happened.

I had never really had a strong connection to aliens though I have always been a little interested but nothing beyond an average interest. And I never really dreamed about aliens so it was odd and whenever I wake up in the middle of the night it takes forever to get back to sleep so it was weird that was pulled back into the dream like that.

Maybe they're sending messages to select few to warn people, or tell us that we're not the ones to worry.

**Noir** · 08-10-2011

THANKS FOR UR ANSWER !!!

Well, who knows, but sometimes i really think they re messages too.

I m having these dreams since i m a little kid, i mean 3 or 4 years? I was already dreaming about alien abductions and i didnt even know what an "abduction" was... They were coming to get me, and i was scared .
Most of the people dreams about monsters, ghosts, flying, or daily situations, but most of my dreams are even today about aliens and apocalyptic situations. Thats at least, weird.

When i read stuff about aliens TODAY, i find people describing aliens and their technology in the way i knew it from my dreams as a 4 year old...

Like for example: in many of these dreams were they "were coming to get me" i knew hiding didnt make any sense, because their technology worked with thoughts; and my thoughts were enough for activating these tecnology to let them know my position, so the people ets were looking for, never could hide.
Nowadays (20 years later) i found people talking about et tecnology activated with telepathy...

Or i used to dream that they were sometimes also hiding little electronic circuits in peoples body's to find them easily... Doesnt it sound similar to implants?

When i read today, the motives and reasons that these et gave some people regarding abductions, experiments, and all that stuff people talk about... Are the same motives i used to hear in my dreams... So nothing of all this is new to me.

Of course as a kid i was only getting grounded for having such an imagination and wakin up my family in the middle of the night, so i never talked about it again.
It wasnt until i was 16 that i had access to internet, and the time and privacy to start a search in the topic, and i noticed all the resemblances.
And even in my 20, when my english was good enough to do searches in other language than my own i found more weird thinghs...

SO HONESTLY THE POINT OF THE THREAD IS JUST TO ASK THESE PEOPLE IN THE FORUM WHO CLAIMS TO HAVE AN ALIEN CONECTION AND SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE; IF THEY COULD GIVE ME A HINT... (OR PM :-) )

IF THEY HAVE HEARD OR KNOW ABOUT PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT BE "ABDUCTED" FISICALLY; BUT STILL HAS A CONECTION TO THESE BEINGS IN DREAMS, OR MAYBE TELEPATHYCALLY??

AND IF THAT IS THE CASE WHY IS IT SO??

OR IS IT THAT ABDUCTIONS ARE ACTUALLY ASTRAL AND NOT REALLY PHYSICAL LIKE PEOPLE THINKS???
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK? WHAT IS YOUR OPINION?

Besides saying that i m just crazy, but i already know that :-P

Thanks.

**1month1day11** · 08-10-2011

I have had contact with Greys; it has been my experience, that they only pretend to be your friend to get close to you. They do not have to physically abduct you to have contact with you. They can communicate with Telepathy....

Have they ever told you why they are interested in you? Have they ever tried to have sex with you?

http://www.book-of-thoth.com/index.html

There are some people at this forum that have had some genuine abductions....there's lots to read, it may garner you some answers.

I have had contact with them several times and each time they have tried to harm me physically. I have not had to be in their physical presence...all it takes is the mind connection. And they are interdimensional, so when you are astral projecting, yes, they can have contact with you like that (this is how they have approached me most commonly), I think they like it, because it leaves the contactee in question of whether or not it was real. No definitive proof.

**Noir** · 08-10-2011

Thank you.
You helped me more than you can imagine with ur answer. :-)
And tnks for the link.

They never tried to have sex with me or at least dont remember.
They say they re interested in me (and the other people in their list), because we re "the offsprings" that will make their new generation or something like that... i dont know really what it means. Or if it is just to calm me down and givin a feeling like u re important...
In some dreams they ve done medical procedures on me or something like that... Difficult to axplain because i felt needles, cold metallike stuff, and even found blood many times on the bed but they never used a knife.
Normally they say it is necessary for preparing me for the day they re picking me up.
They have also told me that i am "theirs", sometimes say i m a family member and belong with them; and at the same time human... Sometimes it sounds more like i am to them just property -in the same way i would say this is my cat-. And that is the way they handle me sometimes. Usually they say i m helping them, and that they re helping me.

They say they need to experiment with us in order to learn how will their applied tecnology work in humans. i dont think that is true.

But it is allways the same: no matter how real these thinghs feel to me. i ALLWAYS wake up in my room and everything looks normal, and i have no other option that saying " it was another dream".

If i remember more i ll write when i come back from work.

Cheers.

**AmentiHall** · 08-11-2011

Let me just tell you something Noir:

Most people do not dream about aliens or abductions. It is VERY rare. Even I do not (and I've had my experiences). Try to recall memories. See if these dreams are not memories within themselves. I don't mean to scare you, but from what you wrote you sound like a typical "abductee" or at least "experiencer."

**GenericIndigo** · 08-11-2011

Originally Posted by Noir

but i never told much to anyone because as a kid i was waking up terrified and screaming that the aliens were coming for me, and my parents would punish me for that "because they dont exist, and was all product of my imagination"...

Hi Noir--

sorry to disregard 99% of your post but this is more important...

can we discuss the bolded part first as this jumps out at me?

how did your parents' suffocating attitude affect you growing up?

and were they consistent in this type of treatment towards you in other areas of your life, not just your dreams?

**AmentiHall** · 08-11-2011

It must be a very hard wake up call.

When your parents teach you that you are insane, that you are crazy, and your experiences are not real...you BELIEVE it. Hell..they might even put you on pills..among other things.

Then one day you grow up...and suddenly realize....

**1month1day11** · 08-11-2011

You are right, Amenti. It's a form of child abuse, my friend.

I don't dream of Greys, the only time I see them is when they are really there. It doesn't happen often, and it's not fun when it does. We have a mutual hate of each other. They are like malice incarnate.

**Noir** · 08-11-2011

Hi!
GenericIndigo, yes my family used to do such things and others much worse; but not only when i had a nightmare... It was in every aspect of life like this. ( i think u got what i mean)

How did it affect me ? well of course it hearted, but luckily and surprisingly i turned to be pretty normal:
as a teen i visited at least 3 psychologists (at free will, and my family didnt know) because i wanted help in dealing with my family and wanted to do some therapy so i dont turn like them... all of them were allways really surprised and told me that i m normal, dont have problems and should not be there in therapy, and they can not help me...
2 of them also told me that it was surprising and strange that i m so healthy psychologically, and told me to leave home and these "family".
So when i turned 17 i did. Now i even live in another continent, so nobody can boderme...

Amenti: luckily they never put me on pills, and never send me to a doc, unfortunately. Some families use one of their kids as "scapegoat"... so they were actually comfortable if they could call me crazy or punish me for being different.

1month1day11: well maybe it could be called childabuse, i didnt know that... Now i m questioning thousand of other things they did...
About the greys: i m sorry to hear that. do they heart you? what do they want with people? have they ever told you why they choose you?
Hugs.

Well guys, thanks a lot for your answers.
Could u explain me wich is the difference between abductee and "experiencer"? These term is new to me.
And how does someone recall memories? is hypnose the only way?
Well, last question, should i be worried or protecting me in some way?

Wish you all a very good day.
Cheers.

**GenericIndigo** · 08-11-2011

Originally Posted by Noir

as a teen i visited at least 3 psychologists (at free will, and my family didnt know)

dayam that's a sign of high intelligence and high maturity at a young age; I'm 28 and I still don't do my laundry bc eventually I know when my mom visits she'll get so annoyed that I've stopped wearing boxers (not because I like to free ball it) but because their all dirty...... it seems to bother her (my laundry pile) that spills out of the closet than it bothers me; but I was spoiled rotten growing up so you can see how this carries over into real life until I'm old and a grandpa.. i feel sorry for my next gf

So when i turned 17 i did. Now i even live in another continent, so nobody can boderme...

deeeeeeeeeyam that's gangster you must have really experienced a lot of pain. I am also on a different continent than my ex gf. Wait, do we consider Hawaii another continent?? hahha i dont think HI is its own continent but I feel very good being separated by miles and miles of deep blue sea; I recently told her that and this is quite verbatim "you're the biggest super bitch that God ever created" pwaahahhaha and we've been broken up for a year and a half... i said that among other things b/c she reached out and wanted to be friends but I never want to "hear an essence of a pindrop of anything to ever do with you again don't call me text me or email me ever you fucking bitch ass selfish ho" yea this was paraphrasing the telephone convo plus 2 emails i fired off impromptu so....... NO i don't have any repressed anger at all

Some families use one of their kids as "scapegoat"... so they were actually comfortable if they could call me crazy or punish me for being different.

oh boy can I relate. not from my family but the general sense of "scapegoat." I'm not sure if I invented this term but I use it so damn much I can't actually remember if I invented it: emotional tampon. Yea that's me! the world's emotional tampon.

Well, last question, should i be worried or protecting me in some way?

not about this astral stuff or aliens or demons
I think you harbor a lot of repressed anger or even sadness
I'm not a professional, although I'm smarter than a lot of them-- and I don't claim to know how BAD repressing really intense feelings/emotions & memories can be... from my own experience it can realy take a toll on the psyche in ways you never thought imaginable; the human mind can take intricate and creative routes to AVOID having to 'deal with pain'-- we are the master's of denial and our minds are imaginative... the people that go full blown coo coo birds and end up in mental institutions are probably just so fed up with life as they see it they retreat totally into their own minds for comfort..............

^so don't let that happen to you and try to deal with your inner most emotions instead of (possibly I'm making a big assumption here but) materializing these things as crazy dreams

don't pull the same trick as your family did on you and use your dreams/aliens as a "scapegoat" for emotions that you're actually feeling

yup I'm a total skeptic about this spiritual stuff but I'm actually kind of at a point of 50/50 believing... but I will need a LOT more empirical evidence before I jump to the conclusion that people actually astral travel, remote view, and meet aliens.

this song is good for comfort

**Noir** · 08-12-2011

Thank you Generic Indigo.
Your answer is really good formulated and interesting.
Sometimes is really good to have a more sckeptical point of view.
I feel conforted, so thanks a lot. :-)
And by the way, you really have a good sense of humor! your quotations and answers made me laugh :-)

So it seems i have no other choice but go jogging and punch the bug several times a week... And lets see, if that really is the problem then my crazy dreams should go away in some time, right? Well, that will take more than a couple of months of course :-P
... Before the aliens take me to this planet, were the walls are all withe and sometimes also staffed with big withe pillows... And the humans there have to wear a uniform-like withe shirt with some kind of strange devices that keep their arms tied toghether... Scary shit man :-D

So i will listen to your advice and deal with these feelings hidden somewere. Even if the dreams still come the rest of my life, it is something i should take care of. You re right on that.

And if that was not the case, then the aliens may come to me and introduce themselves in person once i stop dreaming about them, just to prove me i m not just going nuts :-) And i promise if that is the case i ll send them to you :-P

Have a really good weekend.
Cheers,
Noir.

**Noir** · 08-12-2011

Thank you Generic Indigo.
Your answer is really good formulated and interesting.
Sometimes is really good to have a more sckeptical point of view.
I feel conforted, so thanks a lot. :-)
And by the way, you really have a good sense of humor! your quotations and answers made me laugh :-)

So it seems i have no other choice but go jogging and punch the bug several times a week... And lets see, if that really is the problem then my crazy dreams should go away in some time, right? Well, that will take more than a couple of months of course :-P
... Before the aliens take me to this planet, were the walls are all withe and sometimes also staffed with big withe pillows... And the humans there have to wear a uniform-like withe shirt with some kind of strange devices that keep their arms tied toghether... Scary shit man :-D

So i will listen to your advice and deal with these feelings hidden somewere. Even if the dreams still come the rest of my life, it is something i should take care of. You re right on that.

And if that was not the case, then the aliens may come to me and introduce themselves in person once i stop dreaming about them, just to prove me i m not just going nuts :-) And i promise if that is the case i ll send them to you :-P

Have a really good weekend.
Cheers,
Noir.

**Shania** · 08-12-2011

Originally Posted by Noir

AND THE QUESTIONS I REALLY WANT TO ASK ARE: IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A MENTAL CONNECTION OR TROUGH DREAMS WITH ET BEINGS OR THEY ONLY ABDUCT PEOPLE?? DOES ANYONE OF U HAVE HEARD ABOUT IT? OR EXPERIENCED?

Hey again! I don't think anyone here can answer your question 100%. There's so much we don't know about dreams and life on the dream state. There's also so much we don't know about aliens and their powers. We, humans, are kids in comparison to them, kids scrambling to find answers and ways to even out the playing field. We are getting there, but they have thousands to billions of years more existence and experience than us.

So, anyway, I can only give you my opinion and that is you can be abducted during dream state. And while you are adbucted your body (astral or etheric) can be worked on, imprinted, or even have location devices planted onto it. It's genius if you think about it. They've improved their kidnapping and playing-tour-guide techniques. No physical struggle, no unexplained disappearances, no unknown observer to worry about.

I think the mental connection in most cases first begins with them. For whatever reason, they become interested in their target and create that connection. You may even find out that this connection goes generations back (parents, grandparents, aunts...) I also think hybrids, humans with recent alien blood/dna, have a natural connection with their alien family.

If you are interested in aliens, their connection to their chosen ones, the governements place in this phenomena... you should watch the tv mini series called, "Taken" produced by Steven Spielberg. It was incredible.

Synopsis for "Taken":

"Taken spans five decades and four generations, and centers on three families: the Keys, the Crawfords, and the Clarkes. Nightmares of abduction by extraterrestrials during World War II haunt Russell Keys; the Roswell incident transforms Owen Crawford from ambitious Air Force captain to amoral shadow government conspirator; and an alien visitor impregnates an unhappily-married Sally Clarke. As the decades go by, the heirs of each are affected by the machinations of the aliens, culminating with the birth of Allie Keys, the final product of the aliens' experimentation and the key to their future."

**Shania** · 08-12-2011

Originally Posted by Noir

Could u explain me wich is the difference between abductee and "experiencer"? These term is new to me. And how does someone recall memories? is hypnose the only way? Well, last question, should i be worried or protecting me in some way?

Hmmh...I actually never thought of the difference between an abductee or experiencer. I'm guessing an experiencer is also called a "contactee". Well, I'm thinking they are the same and different simultaneously. Same in that to be abducted is to experience alien contact. Different in that with abduction the human is either forced to go with the alien or goes with the alien without their knowledge. While another human can have a completely benevolent experience where they are asked or ask themselves to go with an alien.

Along with hyposis, you can access memories through meditation and the dream state.

You should be worried about everything in this world.

Everything and everyone holds a potential to harm. I guess the key is not to allow fear to rule you. You must rule your fear/worry. Aliens like humans possess the ability to harm and help others. There are good ones and their are evil ones. And then you have the ones in between who are emotionless, they do not act with cruelty or compassion because they do not know what those emotions are. Yet their behaviour towards humans tends to be construed as cruel by humans.

You should always try to protect yourself when dealing with the unknown. Even on IS, you need to be careful. From my own experiences, the more you dig and delve, the more protection you need. Ignorance is bliss in some ways. Gosh, I feel like such a party pooper now. Sorry.