Jesus is standing right behind you

[Calibas]

I swear he's there! Quick! Turn around!
What? You didn't see him? He was there a second ago, you must have just missed him...


You weren't looking for him with you physical eyes were you? That's just silly.


Oh my god, it's Buddha! Quick turn around!

[Rachel]

he's always with me ,so is tpac and biggy.

[LadyElement]

ah man and i missed him?!?!

[Calibas]

Oh my God! He's back, look quick!!!

[LadyElement]

*loooks*

[Ian]

Ahhhh, I turned around too quick and my arm was out and now Jesus is lying on my floor bleeding from the nose.

Is that bad? I mean it was kind of creepy of him to be standing so close, he could have coughed or something.

[Calibas]

I think when most people hear "Jesus/God/Dead Loved One is with you". They only believe it in some vague metaphoric sense. I believe it's real in a very literal sense. Like it's more real than the "fact" that you're reading these words on your computer screen, right now. The Nowness is what's real, time is an illusion. Oneness is what's real, separation is an illusion.

[Ian]

Oneness is what's real, separation is an illusion.

That's true but without separation there would be no forum to post on and no You to post. :-)

[LadyElement]

Beautiful Will

[Calibas]

If 'I' am 'I' because 'You' are 'You', and 'You' are 'You' because 'I' am 'I' then are 'You' really 'You' and am 'I' really 'I'?

Yes, errrr... no? Reply hazy, try again.

Who am I in relation to myself?

[Ian]

If 'I' am 'I' because 'You' are 'You', and 'You' are 'You' because 'I' am 'I' then are 'You' really 'You' and am 'I' really 'I'?

To paraphrase... Pronouns require separation ;-)

[Ian]

Which makes it very difficult to figure out how the first separation (thing) was created

[FreeSpeak]

"Where two or more are gathered together in my name, there will I be also"

"I am He as you are He as you are me and we are all together"

♥

"Our fear of death and our need for survival is what keeps us separated from Union with God"
-former Guru

[Ian]

It helps to not think linear when it comes to that

Right, no time, always is... But if you take time out of the picture you may as well take space out too. So now you've got everything occupying the same point. Only it's not a point because there is no time and space to define anything.

Which is ultimate unity, god, whatever. No self, no separation.

So where does the separation come from?

[Annette]

If God is love...and I am one with God...and we are one with each other...then isn't there only love?

[Annette]

Right, no time, always is... But if you take time out of the picture you may as well take space out too. So now you've got everything occupying the same point. Only it's not a point because there is no time and space to define anything.

Which is ultimate unity, god, whatever. No self, no separation.

So where does the separation come from?

There is no separation. To use a quote from my daughter, "We are each a facet of the greater crystal (God)." Each facet is beatiful and necessary but still only a part. To see us as separate would be like seeing only one facet of a crystal and not seeing the crystal as a whole.

[Ian]

Yes of course, separation is an illusion. No offense but the post you're responding to says that very clearly.

The question remains the same, where did the illusion come from.

[Benares]

This is like a poetic, beautiful duality thread! Of course, this thread is really me. As a matter of fact, This forum is god.

This whole sense of "embracing the paradox" got me thinking the other day. For a moment, let's assume that there is separation. We have humans do not understand the paradox. To understand the paradox, for example, would be to ascend to another level. Understanding the paradox is different, even still, from living the paradox. I think living the paradox is one of our main goals in this life.

So, if one lives the paradox, that means that they are BOTH separate from god and unified with god and all things. To know this is to be able to teach it to others (who are really yourself, as you understand it). Then they too might at least be able to understand the paradox, and might one day go about living the paradox in which they spread the paradox, which really never wasn't spread in the first place. For laughter's sake, let's call the one who lives the paradox a "guide".

As we live the paradox, we realize that we aren't really a paradox in the first place, but we are led to believe that is true. Well, who leads us to believe this is true? God? Well, we are one with god. We are the ones who have imposed this false sense of paradox on ourselves. Have we taught ourselves a lesson? Impossible, because we are ourselves, as well as the lesson. However it still happened, eventhough it never really did happen, because everything is. There is no was, and was no will be, and will be no is. It is what it is. In fact, everything is what it is, which is everything.

So you finally come to this conclusion, right? Then hey, you are now called "an angel"! The label is useless to you though, and only serves those who don't realize that by calling you something other than "me", that aren't living the paradox. As a matter of fact, they are living the paradox without knowing it. However, they know everything, including the fact that they are living the paradox. This is child's play to you, who is me. We are me.

At some point, we shed all possible distinction with any other being, even to those who do not understand the paradox. In actuality, that is how it always was. We just have to realize this. We never really were "they", or "me". I just am. You are then, "Prime Creator". Yes, we are prime creator, but are they prime creator? I am god, but are they god? The answer is, yes and no. Embrace it, live it (deal with it).

"I am that". It is a great phrase that my guides gave me to help me connect to my higher self. What? I am my higher self, and I guide myself. I am he who helps me when I call on help from me. I am he who comes to me for help from me.

My higher self calls you all crazy. Wait, so I'm crazy? Did I just call me crazy?

Light and love,
John (in separation)

[Annette]

Yes of course, separation is an illusion. No offense but the post you're responding to says that very clearly.

The question remains the same, where did the illusion come from.

Yea, I know...it was just another opportunity to use that beautiful bit about the crystal . No offense taken .

I believe that the illusion of separation goes along with the question of why are we here...the illusion of the earth experience...and our soul need of growth.

We come from perfection...of oneness...but how does one improve on perfection...how does one grow beyond perfection? You take it out of the comfort zone. You create experiences that you have not yet had.

The illusion of seperation on this plane of exsistence comes when we are first separted from our mothers in that harsh, tramatic and even painful experience called birth. Then, each time that ones differences are pointed out, I believe, the feeling of separation becomes broader.

You can see this clearly in kindergarten. Many times, kindergarten is a child's first experience with diversity. They spend some time compairing themselves. They look at differences in skin color, hair color, eye color and differences in height and weight. Many times you can see a surprised look when a difference in noticed. It's so interesting to study the human animal at such a young age.

Much love,
Annette

[FreeSpeak]

There is no separation. To use a quote from my daughter, "We are each a facet of the greater crystal (God)." Each facet is beatiful and necessary but still only a part. To see us as separate would be like seeing only one facet of a crystal and not seeing the crystal as a whole.

THAT is such a beautiful quote that I overlayed it on the "Namaste" ice crystal by Dr. Imoto....

I did this to put on my computer's background screen but wanted to share it.

THANK YOU Annete and thank your daughter. What a wonderful mind & spirit!