
Originally Posted by
Stuart
God is one of the terms of understanding the discourse group needs to agree upon. That is why I stay out of these discussions. In fact I can not tell if it is even agreed upon what dark matter is...If someone makes an illustration, 2 or 3 others are bound to linearize the concept presented into having a meaning relative to the preconcieved notions held by the ones linearizing, and that is why I stay out. Discussions dont progress if you are constantly trying to establish the terms being used..
Appearently I was being too abstract. If the creator is god, then god does not give life. Life exist because all things and unthings are sentient. The human concept of life is under heavy subjection from ego influence. No other creature or spirit has ever conceptualized of life, having ones own life, and one living their own life, and one having to die, are all egotistical concepts concieved and contrived by the egotistical dispositions of humans only, and the human minds propensity to itemize the world around them, especialy the concept of the self.
The tao is the path of evolving, eloborating and diversifying consciousness as it gives birth to the energy and forces it is gaining consciousness of. The creator is a consciousness on that path, all consciousness are united but differintiated by what they are conscious of. Just like all energy in the universe is one energy diversified into various differintiated energy forms and events.
God is the principle of infinity, the driving force behind the unfolding of tao or the manifestation of light and it is the path of infinity the proceedes through the creator, it is by the power and definition of that principle that grants the creator the power and ability to create.
The seperation from God as the principle is only a percieved seperation. The seperation between god the creator is more physical. The spirit of creation, the universal way, or the holy spirit is what is omnipresent, with us and guiding us, the thing that can be "followed" like a path an emulated. The creator as a consciousness, never existed but creation is an energic emulation of that consciousness (which as I've said has its parameters and dependancies), which is the god all around us.
There are other aware forces and spiritual awareness's that are present and active within creation, and preceding creation. Some of these spiritual awareness and aware forces precede the consciousness that is the creator and because of the contrast between these consciousness and the creator I wont refer to the creator as the one true god. Yes they are all eternal and have all existed for eternity but they exist according to an orginization that points to the principle of infinity as the one true God, and everything else in non-existence, the creator included, are it's thrown, (if you want to use those archaic terms).
When the creator creates existence it most certainly does begin and end its life in the sacrificial act of creation. However, creation is building a platform for the consciousness which is the creator conscious in and out of humanity. When humanity attains to the consciousness the creator consciousness will dwell in time, within creation, in the mind and soul of humanity, just as we have collective consciousness now, it will be united and elevated with the universal consciousness.
The consciousness of the creator does always exist, it is the infinite universal consciousness that sees beyond the parameters of nonexistence and opens the gate for the path of infinity to trancend non-existence. Yet the creator is not a god that is actively acting and doing things within creation. All things unfold according to the nature of infinity.
When humanity attains the universal consciousness it will unite the mind of creation with the mind of creator. Mind/awareness exist in time, and outside of time, so when humanity attains the state, it will unite us with the same consciousness that is still there in the begining.
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